Tim Lester's Comments

[eddie in nc]

The last couple were in response to a couple of posts that weren't surprised he wouldn't know it all. I'm sure he does or it'd be hard to be the QB coach. Not a big deal. If he doesn't know the terminology, I'm not sure why he said it. If he doesn't, I'm shocked.

I think he 'knows' the terminolgy, but, as he said in his interview, to call plays successfully you have to live your offense. And I think he is admitting that he hasn't lived this offense yet because it is not his.

 

[BlazeOrange]

The last couple were in response to a couple of posts that weren't surprised he wouldn't know it all. I'm sure he does or it'd be hard to be the QB coach. Not a big deal. If he doesn't know the terminology, I'm not sure why he said it. If he doesn't, I'm shocked.

I interpret the quote that he knows the terminology, but hasn't been spitting it out in game situations --i.e., deciding on a play and making the call while the playclock is running. Until he gets the pacing down, he'll be peeking at a cheat sheet for assistance/confirmation.

Also, if he is making strategic changes but keeping McF'it's plays, he might be dialing up some rarely-used plays that will take a bit of time to get used to calling.

 

[TheCusian]

I interpret the quote that he knows the terminology, but hasn't been spitting it out in game situations --i.e., deciding on a play and making the call while the playclock is running. Until he gets the pacing down, he'll be peeking at a cheat sheet for assistance/confirmation. Also, if he is making strategic changes but keeping McF'it's plays, he might be dialing up some rarely-used plays that will take a bit of time to get used to calling.

Exactly. Knowing the terminology and being able to make successive calls based on down, distance, players in game with someone else's playbook.

 

[wfschrec]

Ugh, not for nothing buy one of my son's friends on our team broke his femur last Sunday during their game.

Well our starter did break his ... honestly I worry about Long's frame holding up against FSU ... those guys are massive.

 

[CuseOnly]

I'd be surprised if other d1 QB coaches get confused about terminology.

If you are running the same system, your system for a number of years it would be understandable.

In Lester's system, maybe a fullback dive play through the 2 hole is called "Smash". Maybe the same play in McF*** It's system it's called "Gator". Easy to get mixed up.

I have seen parents that can't keep their kids names straight (myself included) but you are saying that you would be surprised that a D1 coach calling plays for possibly the second time in a system can't get his terminology mixed up on occasion?

As we all know, most D1 coaches are perfect and infallible especially when it's your job, right.

 

[RMH44]

Never made it to HC.

I assume he'd have to be terribly desperate for work.

He was a HC at one of the Connecticut directional schools. P was an assistant there with him.

 

[Chip]

He was a HC at one of the Connecticut directional schools. P was an assistant there with him.

I kinda recall that, but wasn't the model I was thinking of. More of someone who was a great OC that springboarded to land a HC job, and then it didn't stick. Those guys always end up back somewhere eventually as OC. I'd rather have one of them than an up and comer. They may not be the best road grinder recruiters, they're basically just selling their own reputation. But you get position coaches who are the salesmen.

 

[thorpedo]

I figured it was because they passed on Bo Buchannon and drafted Vontae Mack and Ray Jennings.

Great movie btw

 

[cuseincincy]

If you are running the same system, your system for a number of years it would be understandable.

In Lester's system, maybe a fullback dive play through the 2 hole is called "Smash". Maybe the same play in McF*** It's system it's called "Gator". Easy to get mixed up.

I have seen parents that can't keep their kids names straight (myself included) but you are saying that you would be surprised that a D1 coach calling plays for possibly the second time in a system can't get his terminology mixed up on occasion?

As we all know, most D1 coaches are perfect and infallible especially when it's your job, right.

Sorry, I'm with Bees on this one. I understand its not "his system". But for the past 2 years it has been his job to coach the QB's that run that system. Being the QB coach is more than just mechanics. It's teaching the offense and play calls also. I would think a QB coach is calling each game in his mind so he can help the QB understand the game plan and what's going to be called and what the check downs and reads are for every play. Honestly I think Lester will be fine. As a former QB he is much more accustomed to calling plays and running an offense than a former WR that spent most of his career as a WR coach. Hopefully we will see a lot less of one of my pet peaves with todays football and thats the no huddle but the team stands around staring at the sideline for 20+ seconds waiting for the play call. As someone else said , "uptempo" and "no huddle" are not synonymous.

 

[TheCusian]

Sorry, I'm with Bees on this one. I understand its not "his system". But for the past 2 years it has been his job to coach the QB's that run that system. Being the QB coach is more than just mechanics. It's teaching the offense and play calls also. I would think a QB coach is calling each game in his mind so he can help the QB understand the game plan and what's going to be called and what the check downs and reads are for every play. Honestly I think Lester will be fine. As a former QB he is much more accustomed to calling plays and running an offense than a former WR that spent most of his career as a WR coach. Hopefully we will see a lot less of one of my pet peaves with todays football and thats the no huddle but the team stands around staring at the sideline for 20+ seconds waiting for the play call. As someone else said , "uptempo" and "no huddle" are not synonymous.

He said he knows what they are when they are called. The difference is in making the call in the heat of the moment.

 

[sufandu]

Don't see how the QB coach doesn't know the full playbook, terminology and all.

Maybe it's not that he doesn't know it, but it's about his brain's automatic recall. If his system has similar plays with simpler terminology where he hasn't had to rely on a call sheet much, that may be where his brain defaults to. It doesn't mean he doesn't have familiarity with McDonald's system, it's just that he can do his system without having to think about it as much.

 

[OrangeMaNPD]

Lester was sent up to upstairs last year as well. Kinda odd he'd say he gets bogged down on the terminology.

 

[OrangeMaNPD]

OK, after listening to all the press conferences, comments reading between the lines and also using what I have seen for 18 games. I'm going to bury my thesis statement right here.

McDonald. Can't read defenses.

Don't think Hunt was too great at doing that either.

 

[OrangePA]

Same thing

Apparently you're not watching them this year.

 

[CuseOnly]

Sorry, I'm with Bees on this one. I understand its not "his system". But for the past 2 years it has been his job to coach the QB's that run that system. Being the QB coach is more than just mechanics. It's teaching the offense and play calls also. I would think a QB coach is calling each game in his mind so he can help the QB understand the game plan and what's going to be called and what the check downs and reads are for every play. Honestly I think Lester will be fine. As a former QB he is much more accustomed to calling plays and running an offense than a former WR that spent most of his career as a WR coach. Hopefully we will see a lot less of one of my pet peaves with todays football and thats the no huddle but the team stands around staring at the sideline for 20+ seconds waiting for the play call. As someone else said , "uptempo" and "no huddle" are not synonymous.

Do you have children? I am asking for a reason but your answer is irrelevant for conversation.

I have 3 of them and they range in age. I am also not that old and I yell out the wrong name all the time, more so when I am upset.

So, I am fairly certain I know my children's names and have for almost 21 years now but I still get PO'd and call them the wrong names. I also have 3 brothers an my mother did the same thing as do most parents.

Same thing happens all the time with a lot of things. He has called his own system for around 7 years as I recall the article stating and I am certain will get terminology mixed up when calling plays from someone else's system. Especially with something as complicated as a D1 offense.

Whether you choose to agree with me or not doesn't matter. I agree he will be fine as well and am thinking it will be a huge upgrade from McF*** It. I think he will read defenses better for One.

 

[KaiserUEO]

Don't see how the QB coach doesn't know the full playbook, terminology and all.

good lord did that jump out at me!!!

i couldnt even finish reading all the comments. as soon as i saw you post this, i had to jump in.

just What has he been doing the last 2 years??

hes coaching the Fn QBs!!! you have to know the O inside and out!!!

 

[CuseOnly]

good lord did that jump out at me!!!

i couldnt even finish reading all the comments. as soon as i saw you post this, i had to jump in.

just What has he been doing the last 2 years??

hes coaching the Fn QBs!!! you have to know the O inside and out!!!

He never said he didn't know the playbook. Paraphrasing but he said he would probably mix up some of the terminology in the heat of the moment.

 

[PhatOrange]

Do you have children? I am asking for a reason but your answer is irrelevant for conversation.

I have 3 of them and they range in age. I am also not that old and I yell out the wrong name all the time, more so when I am upset.

So, I am fairly certain I know my children's names and have for almost 21 years now but I still get PO'd and call them the wrong names. I also have 3 brothers an my mother did the same thing as do most parents.

LOL - i get my kids names mixed up all the time. especially when yelling. i've resorted to calling them zalex. a mix of zach and alex.

when i was a kid i used to think my grandmother was going mad because she never called me by the right name. she was probably 65 yrs old at the time. I now understand she wasn't going mad, she only had 20 some grandchildren and 6 or 7 great grandchildren to keep straight. I can't keep two straight. I understand now.

 

[Millhouse]

good lord did that jump out at me!!!

i couldnt even finish reading all the comments. as soon as i saw you post this, i had to jump in.

just What has he been doing the last 2 years??

hes coaching the Fn QBs!!! you have to know the O inside and out!!!

a key principle of the n zone is that all terminology is on a need to know basis

n zone has no passes in the end zone in front of the o zone where 3 fans sit alone

 

[KaiserUEO]

He never said he didn't know the playbook. Paraphrasing but he said he would probably mix up some of the terminology in the heat of the moment.

un-the-fluck-acceptable.

 

[CuseOnly]

un-the-fluck-acceptable.

I know...D1 Coaches aren't human like us.

It actually remided me of the time this year when Rutgers OC the Fridge was calling a play and it came out...

"...Salami Sandwich!!..on RYE..Doritos...Liter of Mountain DEW!!" When he was just recalling that day's snack order.

 

[dollarbill44]

He'd be running AAM and Morris out of the I with Long as the QB, a couple of options, a heavy dose of counters and traps, playing with Moore and Parris, and throwing Play Action Posts to Ishmael.

What would wrong with that?

Constantly running the option to the short side of the field, dozens of false start penalties due to the complexity of offense, being predictable with play calls...

 

[Crusty]

Apparently you're not watching them this year.

Just wait.

 

[KaiserUEO]

I know...D1 Coaches aren't human like us.

It actually remided me of the time this year when Rutgers OC the Fridge was calling a play and it came out...

"...Salami Sandwich!!..on RYE..Doritos...Liter of Mountain DEW!!" When he was just recalling that day's snack order.

do you know how to do your job??

our OC doesnt know how to do his.

the plays confuse him.

how do i get rid of this pesky knowing the plays thingy??...

 

[OrangePA]

Just wait.

The Browns are much improved.

They could have one more win very easily.

The OL has played well.

And, by the way, I noted that during his interview with Axe, Tim Lester indicated that he envisions an SU offense that is "50-50" run/pass and that has as its base, a strong running attack.

That sounds an awful lot like the DeLeone approach.

Option, misdirection, play action, big, vertical passing.

That's what I would like to see.