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Tournament Resumes YTD / Selection Show

come cuse got to beat duke. Let’s go boys come out ready n play top level lacrosse all game. Committee rankings have ya at 9th so prove to them they need to move you up. Let’s go orange !!!
 
After today's disgrace game, SU stands at 8 in the RPI. 1 Top 5 win, 0 6-10 wins, 2 11-20 wins, with SOS at 10. UNC is 6 in the RPI, so we have a chance to add another big win on Saturday. That might move us ahead of Harvard in IL's bracketology. Might.
 
I think I worked out the various scenarios for the ACC Tournament (assuming head-to-head results are tie-breakers):

1. If we beat UNC we're the #1 seed and will play the winner of the Duke-Virginia game
2. If we lose to UNC and Duke beats Virginia we'll be the #4 seed and play Notre Dame
3. If we lose to UNC and Virginia beats Duke we'll be the #3 seed and play UNC for the 2nd week in a row

Anyone else have anything different?
 
Honestly where they finish in acc right now seems least of my worries. They need to beat unc n get another top win n get some kind of confidence or momentum. Losing two in row def hasn’t helped but they can still finish strong here n possibly get home game. But right now beating unc is only thing should be of concern right now. Unc just lost n gonna be looking to bounce back. Come out flat again n this season will go down the toilet in a hurry.
 
Duke probably in the same boat. They lose to Virg and don't make the ACC tourney
 
FloridaCuse said:
I think I worked out the various scenarios for the ACC Tournament (assuming head-to-head results are tie-breakers):

1. If we beat UNC we're the #1 seed and will play the winner of the Duke-Virginia game
2. If we lose to UNC and Duke beats Virginia we'll be the #4 seed and play Notre Dame
3. If we lose to UNC and Virginia beats Duke we'll be the #3 seed and play UNC for the 2nd week in a row

Anyone else have anything different?
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looks correct.
 
Someone in one of the threads (Duke Gameday?) mentioned a 4 vs. 5 game in the ACCT. I thought it was just the top 4, with #5 SOL. So I googled it.

lol - let's just say AI needs a little more work...

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Semifinals
Friday, May 2
Game 1
5:00 pm
#1 seed vs. #4 seed

Game 2
8:00 pm
#2 seed vs. #3 seed


Championship
Sunday, May 4
Game 3
Noon
TBD vs TBD
 
orange79 said:
Someone in one of the threads (Duke Gameday?) mentioned a 4 vs. 5 game in the ACCT. I thought it was just the top 4, with #5 SOL. So I googled it.

lol - let's just say AI needs a little more work...

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months ago, the subject came up on another site. the 4 vs 5 game hadn't been done in a number of years, and i thought they'd done it at least several years. iirc, it was only once when i looked it up.

caveat: no (official) AI was used in this research.
 
SU likely #7 in the final RPI based on the average of simulations. Could mean a home game but that might depend on one more win v NC or in ACCT semis.

 
Draftking's odds to win the National Championship:

Cornell +250 [down from +300]
Maryland +400 [up from +350]
Notre Dame +450 [down from +450]
Ohio State +800
Princeton +900
Syracuse +1000 [up from +650]
Penn St +1000 [down from +1500]
UNC +1200 [up from +900]
Army +1800 [down from 2000]
Duke +2500 [down from +5000]
Harvard +4000 [up from +2500]

On Laxmath.com, their percentage probabilities for winning the National Championship are:

Cornell 40%
Notre Dame 13.5%
Maryland 13%
Penn St. 11.5%
Army 11%
Princeton 3%
Syracuse 2%
UNC 2%

No one else listed.
 
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Notre Dame and Duke were the ACC teams that had more to gain (tournament-wise, at least) last week and they won. This week, that distinction goes to Syracuse, which finds itself right on the line of earning a first-round home game. A victory over North Carolina would help on that front.

Annapolis, Md.
(1) Maryland vs. NORTHEAST/Robert Morris-AMERICA EAST/UMBC winner
(8) Duke vs. PATRIOT/Army

Annapolis, Md.
(5) Notre Dame vs. Harvard
(4) Penn State vs. COASTAL/Towson

Hempstead, N.Y.
(3) Princeton vs. BIG EAST/Villanova
(6) North Carolina vs. ATLANTIC 10/Richmond

Hempstead, N.Y.
(7) BIG TEN/Ohio State vs. Syracuse
(2) IVY/Cornell vs. METRO ATLANTIC/Sacred Heart-ATLANTIC SUN/Utah winner

Last three included: Duke, Harvard, Syracuse
First three on the outside: Michigan, Boston U, Saint Joseph’s
Moving in: None
Moving out: None
Conference call: Atlantic Coast (4), Big Ten (3), Ivy (3)
 
Pretty similar to US Lax's version. Syracuse on the road to Columbus again. Again though, sounds like they are right on the bubble.
  • The Orange and Michigan also have similar résumés, and that’s a very important threshold — bubble in vs. bubble out. They have the same number of quality wins, ’Cuse has a better RPI, Michigan has a much better SOS, and I’ll give the edge to the Orange right now based on the only thing I was able to glean from the Committee’s Top 10 ranking this week: an emphasis on record.

 
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Powellfan said:
Pretty similar to US Lax's version. Syracuse on the road to Columbus again. Again though, sounds like they are right on the bubble.
  • The Orange and Michigan also have similar résumés, and that’s a very important threshold — bubble in vs. bubble out. They have the same number of quality wins, ’Cuse has a better RPI, Michigan has a much better SOS, and I’ll give the edge to the Orange right now based on the only thing I was able to glean from the Committee’s Top 10 ranking this week: an emphasis on record.

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Not exactly a great sign that SU is on the bubble but they still hold their own fate in their hands. Win Saturday they probably are back on track for a home game and still have the ACC tourney next week if needed (hopefully not). Michigan only has under .500 Rutty left technically, they probably need to win that game and maybe the following week vs OSU as well.
 
to be honest kinda feel for cuse is win saturday or it’s over. Cause ya lose saturday vs unc then ur 4th seed n take on ND who yes we beat but haven’t been great against them n their gonna be looking for revenge. Also i see it as duke last year happing. Beat them in regular season pretty good to lose to them in acc tounry. Losing 4 straight games to end season even vs top oppts n being on bubble reads big trouble. Yes they lose saturday still can win games in acc to help but just realistically who they would play if lose saturday just doesn’t bow well. Think it’s desperate time n HAVE to absolutely HAVE to win saturday.

Also worry all this they stink outside dome n back in dome so will play better is gonna jinx us. I truely hope i’m wrong n cuse wins n even wins out. But i’d be flat out lying to say if my confidence isn’t at all time low right now. And gonna be another long long long off season before lax comes back next year to hopefully take bad taste out of mouth. Please orange prove my feelings wrong I DARE YOU! I triple DOG DARE you.
 
without ever knowing how the committee will act, 'cuse in a worst case scenario looks like they'd have 2 things to worry about:
- army not winning the patriot. no one knows how their possible late top 20-wins (those near that cut line) may fall, or if their sos rank is going to be a big deal. but a 2 loss army might just look to a committee like they should be in.
- michigan. somehow, this team has turned into the best team in the country for one weekend the last 2 years. they may only need to take 2 this year and be looking pretty good.

yale i give a < 3% chance of winning the ilt.
 
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