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We have 100 kids on the roster and 22 coming in over the summer. There has to be a lot more heading to the portal.
Yes. Agree. Can definitely use some wiggle out there as well.Oh for sure. Put your best guys out there. I think Ross is going to be a stud. I just like having a guy out there like Erv Phillips, Estime, Peña, etc…that has some wiggle, fast, quick and can make some guys miss. But guys like JRS and Ross are big physical guys which are nice to obviously lol. As long as we have someone to stretch the field which Gill is more than capable of doing
I have wondered if contracts would help and I am not sure if possible, maybe someone can shed some light on it, but I’ve wondered if the “New” school of the player would have to pay the amount he would have paid( by SU) to the school losing the player, I wonder if it would be help slow things down. I also have to wonder if agents are free lancing looking for a bigger commission, when in reality the player opened spring ball with no intention of leaving.Though saddened that we won't see him play for SU, I'm not sure how to feel about this. There are a lot of factors that went into his decision, most of which I know little about. This may best his best opportunity to make significant money, ever. It's tough to criticize a young man when one perspective he has to be focused on is that he may never have another chance to profit from the one year of his life where he truly thrived. The future carries no guarantees. He almost didn't have that opportunity due to previous injuries. I'm mostly saddened that SU isn't in a competitive position with our peers. If it was a close decision, i have to think he'd stay. I do wish him well and appreciate his part on one of our best teams since Pasqualoni. I do think that contracts could help the chaos. Anyhow, thank you, Trebor. Best wishes
If that was the case, he could and should have left in December. He agreed to a deal to stay. Syracuse honors its end of the contract -- he decided not to. Someone came along and offered him more and Syracuse decided not to change the deal. At some point kids have to realize that's how the real world works. There will always be the opportunity to chase money or something else -- you decide what you want to prioritize. I dont begrudge any kid who chases the opportunity to maximize their worth. But at the same time, the school and Fran has every right to say no.Man, Pena was all DART. He has been detailed, Accountable, Relentless and Tough His entire time at SU.
He has also shown he was committed to the program, that he cared about the program and that he could be trusted. Perhaps he came to a crossroad where he began to question if the program was committed to him, cared about him (as much as another program cared) or if he could trust the program to step up when another program has indicated they would step up.
Commitment, Care and Trust works both ways.
Nothing tells someone you care like telling them “if you want to go, go already” when someone starts to question their choices and seeks guidance. I’m not saying this happened with Pena, but apparently this has happened more than once.
Of course the agents are looking for more money. It's what they do. But the player is the boss in these relationships. This kid made a deal with Syracuse. He was named captain. A leader. I don't and never blame someone looking for more money. But, at a point, your word either means something or it doesn't.I have wondered if contracts would help and I am not sure if possible, maybe someone can shed some light on it, but I’ve wondered if the “New” school of the player would have to pay the amount he would have paid( by SU) to the school losing the player, I wonder if it would be help slow things down. I also have to wonder if agents are free lancing looking for a bigger commission, when in reality the player opened spring ball with no intention of leaving.
We have 100 kids on the roster and 22 coming in over the summer. There has to be a lot more heading to the portal.
Exactly. once you show that your word can not be trusted, no one should ever trust it again.If that was the case, he could and should have left in December. He agreed to a deal to stay. Syracuse honors its end of the contract -- he decided not to. Someone came along and offered him more and Syracuse decided not to change the deal. At some point kids have to realize that's how the real world works. There will always be the opportunity to chase money or something else -- you decide what you want to prioritize. I dont begrudge any kid who chases the opportunity to maximize their worth. But at the same time, the school and Fran has every right to say no.
Jameer ThomasYes. Agree. Can definitely use some wiggle out there as well.
Do we know he’s going to Miami?The Miami QB is in the same boat as us.
Also there are written agreements. It’s not like he’s trusting Syracuse’s word. He has a contract with the school/collective. He reneged on it a few months later.Of course the agents are looking for more money. It's what they do. But the player is the boss in these relationships. This kid made a deal with Syracuse. He was named captain. A leader. I don't and never blame someone looking for more money. But, at a point, your word either means something or it doesn't.
Actually no I wouldn’t. I turned down two jobs this year, one was double what I am making currently. I like where I work and don’t want to move my family. And my post was tongue in cheek, I don’t ever waste an ounce of my energy worrying about what college kids do.If you were him you’d do the same thing if the price was right. If he’s getting a big paycheck he would be a fool to not leave. He’s no lock to play in the NFL so he should take the money and run
Exactly. once you show that your word can not be trusted, no one should ever trust it again.
I hope this is true, haven’t seen him announce anything himself yet. It would suck to lose him, but at the same time it would open up more NIL money.He ain’t gone yet.
I hope it's not.Guess we got hit by the Iamaleava bug.
I hope it’s a significantly larger sum of cash to offset the major rep hit with making a move like this all things considered.
Do we know he’s going to Miami?
Look on the bright side! More NIL $ to offer the proven LB and the CB we have been pursuing.Yeah - am sure Fran was elated to hear the news after he made him team captain.
There's always a right and wrong way to do things and these kids have to grow up fast now. They're making big business decisions but your word still matters.
Jameer Thomas