UConn Coming (2 and 2)

[Alsacs]

Syr.com just had an article about the contract

Biggest reason Cuse gave them a 2 for 2 is it allows Syracuse lots of flexibility to cancel without penalty if the ACC amends it's scheduling format or the playoffs expand. No one can predict the future of CFB in 1-2 years mind 3-7 years.

So Alsacs the devil is always in the details.

Aren't you a lawyer?

All we did was protect ourselves from having to play in the 2026/2027 if the ACC expands to 9 conference games.
Which is smart as playing them home/home is dumb but giving them 2-2 home/home even dumber.

 

[Alsacs]

Lol. Okay.

This isn't a LOL situation. When everything I said was true.
UConn won this deal. It's not even a debate.
They got a P5 team to play them and not just play them home/home for 2 games but 4 games.

Syracuse has to schedule 4 nonconference games a year. It is really 3 nonconference games a year as we play a FBS team every year.
UConn has to schedule 12 games a year. They have no conference games.

UConn has no leverage. We don't have to play them. We gave them a sweetheart deal. It's not hard to comprehend when people don't try to spin this deal.

But yeah its funny.

 

[Alsacs]

Imagine being a UConn fan or administrator and thinking this is your big victory in sports.

UConn needs interesting home football games. UConn fans will be more interested in watching UConn play Syracuse at home than they will seeing Middle Tennessee or Frenso State coming to Storrs.

I get what you are saying but again UConn won this deal.

 

[Jake]

This isn't a LOL situation. When everything I said was true.
UConn won this deal. It's not even a debate.
They got a P5 team to play them and not just play them home/home for 2 games but 4 games.

Syracuse has to schedule 4 nonconference games a year. It is really 3 nonconference games a year as we play a FBS team every year.
UConn has to schedule 12 games a year. They have no conference games.

UConn has no leverage. We don't have to play them. We gave them a sweetheart deal. It's not hard to comprehend when people don't try to spin this deal.

But yeah its funny.

Well, actually, watching you have a melt down kinda is.

Scheduling is very complex. None of us have enough info to draw a conclusion. Certainly no one has enough information to claim this is a “pantsing”.

But hang onto that torch and pitchfork...

 

[Alsacs]

Well, actually, watching you have a melt down kinda is.

Scheduling is very complex. None of us have enough info to draw a conclusion. Certainly no one has enough information to claim this is a “pantsing”.

But hang onto that torch and pitchfork...

I am sure somebody on this board could do this job better than what Syracuse person in charge of scheduling has done.
ChrisM02 or TexanMark could do a better job.

This series was a terrible job at negotiation. It's funny we have an opt-out in case the ACC expands to 9 games and we get to actually play Coastal teams more which I said to do several pages ago.

 

[Jake]

I am sure somebody on this board could do this job better than what Syracuse person in charge of scheduling has done.
ChrisM02 or TexanMark could do a better job.

This series was a terrible job at negotiation. It's funny we have an opt-out in case the ACC expands to 9 games and we get to actually play Coastal teams more which I said to do several pages ago.

So you’re saying that we should pick a person who posts here and let them play Athletic Director?

Eh, it’d never work.

 

[TexanMark]

So you’re saying that we should pick a person who posts here and let them play Athletic Director?

Eh, it’d never work.

My OOC

@Bama
@LSU
Ped State
@Oregon

How'd I do?

LoL

 

[kirbivore]

My OOC

@Bama
@LSU
Ped State
@Oregon

How'd I do?

LoL

Jake C. approved

 

[OrangeXtreme]

My OOC

@Bama
@LSU
Ped State
@Oregon

How'd I do?

LoL

Do we get ESPN Gameday for Ped State?

 

[Chip]

Do we get ESPN Gameday for Ped State?

If we beat Bama and LSU...maybe.

Iowa might be caucusing that weekend.

 

[nzm136]

Syr.com just had an article about the contract

Biggest reason Cuse gave them a 2 for 2 is it allows Syracuse lots of flexibility to cancel without penalty if the ACC amends it's scheduling format or the playoffs expand. No one can predict the future of CFB in 1-2 years mind 3-7 years.

So Alsacs the devil is always in the details.

Aren't you a lawyer?

There you go. Now the 2-2 makes sense.

 

[Alsacs]

There you go. Now the 2-2 makes sense.

The 2 for 2 doesn't make any sense.
All we did was protect ourselves if the ACC expands to 9 conference games. Then we would be stuck having to dump 1 nonconference game and Syracuse doesn't want to have buyout another game so they have a clause to drop the UConn games without penalty.

It's just insurance so we don't have to pay money to drop another game.

 

[HRE Otto IV]

I am sure somebody on this board could do this job better than what Syracuse person in charge of scheduling has done.
ChrisM02 or TexanMark could do a better job.

This series was a terrible job at negotiation. It's funny we have an opt-out in case the ACC expands to 9 games and we get to actually play Coastal teams more which I said to do several pages ago.

It really isn’t all that hard. There are nearly twice as many more OOC games needed by G5 teams than the P5 teams need. You only run into issues if you are late to schedule. It is amazing that SU has been so bad at this for over a decade. I wonder what the constant is in that?

 

[nzm136]

The 2 for 2 doesn't make any sense.
All we did was protect ourselves if the ACC expands to 9 conference games. Then we would be stuck having to dump 1 nonconference game and Syracuse doesn't want to have buyout another game so they have a clause to drop the UConn games without penalty.

It's just insurance so we don't have to pay money to drop another game.

I’m not sure I follow your logic. The 2-2 makes sense to me because the “extra” value that UConn is giving is insurance.

I haven’t read the PS article or the contract, but this thread is making it sound like UConn was willing to be abnormally flexible. But for that extra value, I would have expected an uneven deal (2-1 or at least a 2-1-1).

 

[721Comstock]

I’m not sure I follow your logic. The 2-2 makes sense to me because the “extra” value that UConn is giving is insurance.

I haven’t read the PS article or the contract, but this thread is making it sound like UConn was willing to be abnormally flexible. But for that extra value, I would have expected an uneven deal (2-1 or at least a 2-1-1).

Their giving us a "get out of jail free card" on the last 2 games IS abnormally flexible.

That's the give-up on their part.
Allowing us to punt on those games if need be.

 

[Alsacs]

I’m not sure I follow your logic. The 2-2 makes sense to me because the “extra” value that UConn is giving is insurance.

I haven’t read the PS article or the contract, but this thread is making it sound like UConn was willing to be abnormally flexible. But for that extra value, I would have expected an uneven deal (2-1 or at least a 2-1-1).

UConn isn't giving us any extra value.
We put a provision in the deal that allows to end the series after 2 games if the ACC schedules expands to 9 games.

They aren't doing us any favors. We are just protecting ourselves from having to pay a buyout if the conference expands to 9 games.

 

[Bayside44]

It really isn’t all that hard. There are nearly twice as many more OOC games needed by G5 teams than the P5 teams need. You only run into issues if you are late to schedule. It is amazing that SU has been so bad at this for over a decade. I wonder what the constant is in that?

The constants are our payout and stadium and location.

 

[Alsacs]

My god our lawyers putting a provision into the deal that allows to end the series after 2 games is NOT UConn giving us anything. That is standard language in most of these deals. Teams cancel series all the time. We canceled a series with Wisconsin which was supposed to be a home/home.

There was a provision that allowed us to get out of the deal.

UConn didn't do us any favors. We just put protection so we don't have to pay them off for not playing the last 2 games.

 

[Alsacs]

The constants are our payout and stadium and location.

I could do the job. I could train a person to do the job in one year. I don't want the job but its not hard.
Just read the market and do what the market dictates when it comes to payouts. Whatever you pay the team for the visit here you get the same amount when you go on the road.
Meet the with coach determine how good the team is when deciding if neutral site games which are moneymakers should be pursued.

You find 1 FBS team every year from the Northeast.
You find 1 P5 team to play to fulfill the ACC requirement.
Then you fill the rest of the schedule with games against peer schools on 1-1 basis. Or more favorable series for us.
It's not hard. The problem has been what King Otto said we have had a person who hasn't been active at the job and we don't make deals while more teams have openings so we are always scrambling fill the schedule.

 

[Bayside44]

I could do the job. I could train a person to do the job in one year. I don't want the job but its not hard.
Just read the market and do what the market dictates when it comes to payouts. Whatever you pay the team for the visit here you get the same amount when you go on the road.
Meet the with coach determine how good the team is when deciding if neutral site games which are moneymakers should be pursued.

You find 1 FBS team every year from the Northeast.
You find 1 P5 team to play to fulfill the ACC requirement.
Then you fill the rest of the schedule with games against peer schools on 1-1 basis. Or more favorable series for us.
It's not hard. The problem has been what King Otto said we have had a person who hasn't been active at the job and we don't make deals while more teams have openings so we are always scrambling fill the schedule.

The SU policy is to play one P5 and the rest be tomato cans. That's it, that's the plan. That's what Dino wants, therefore that is what the AD wants. This really isn't some state secret either, the AD does take the show on the road and meets with many groups in an open forum where this stuff is discussed.

Again, still haven't seen realistic or any examples of what's better out there as opposed to an easy win, short trip, and a chance for a lot of our fans to see us play.

 

[HRE Otto IV]

The constants are our payout and stadium and location.

Now you are just getting silly.

 

[Bayside44]

Now you are just getting silly.

You see what Clemson and Tennessee were paying out?

 

[HRE Otto IV]

The SU policy is to play one P5 and the rest be tomato cans. That's it, that's the plan. That's what Dino wants, therefore that is what the AD wants. This really isn't some state secret either, the AD does take the show on the road and meets with many groups in an open forum where this stuff is discussed.

Again, still haven't seen realistic or any examples of what's better out there as opposed to an easy win, short trip, and a chance for a lot of our fans to see us play.

How many fans we really going to bring to UConn? It is in the middle of nowhere and a PIA for most of our fans to get to? How’s the recruiting in that area? So does that help? The MAC, CUSA, and Sunbelt are full of Tomato cans. How are they not better options?

We have played UConn plenty. They are a stale home game and road trip. Variety is better than 4 games.

 

[HRE Otto IV]

You see what Clemson and Tennessee were paying out?

You are moving the goal posts. They are doing 1 and done. Don’t expect that from SU.

 

[Bayside44]

How many fans we really going to bring to UConn? It is in the middle of nowhere and a PIA for most of our fans to get to? How’s the recruiting in that area? So does that help? The MAC, CUSA, and Sunbelt are full of Tomato cans. How are they not better options?

We have played UConn plenty. They are a stale home game and road trip. Variety is better than 4 games.

cuseguy needs a bone.

Last I checked it's between two pretty big population centers with our people. It's as uncomplicated as it can get.

And good friggin grief, we play in the ACC, you really think our recruiting will be any different with one game against Memphis in September?