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Vince Kehres: New DC

PhatOrange said:
How about the comment where he says Fran reached out to him several weeks before the end of the season.
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He said it was on a Sunday, so must have been the day after a particularly bad day on D. Plenty to choose from, but I'm going with the day after the Georgia Tech game.
 
Big thing is we will once again be recruiting Ohio and honestly isn't a culture shock to NY sans NYC. Ohio State pulls national talent and simply cannot take all in state talents. Ohio kids are tough as nails, take football extremely seriously, and that is truly something we've largely lacked.
 
upperdeck said:
So the difference in missed tackles is less than 2 a game?

There were games where it felt like we missed 4-5 on a single play. I wonder how they grade what a miss is.
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This is how PFF grades it out

Key Factors in Determining a Missed Tackle:

Opportunity: The defender must have been in a position to make the tackle, close enough to make a definitive stop.
Failure to Finish: The defender makes contact (e.g., reaches out, gets a hand on the runner) but doesn't bring the runner down or significantly impede their progress.

Open Field: Often emphasized in open-field situations where there's no help, making the miss more impactful.
Intent vs. Execution: It's about the result of the attempt—did the runner get away/continue? If so, it's often marked as a miss, even if the defender forced a change of direction.

What's NOT a Missed Tackle (Usually):

Broken Tackles: When the runner breaks a solid tackle attempt (e.g., stiff-arms or spins out of a strong grasp).
Successful Tackles: When the defender wraps up and brings the runner down, regardless of how many defenders were involved (though solo efforts are often highlighted).

Legal Contact Only: A defender missing a tackle but still forcing the runner out of bounds or making them stumble might be a "good effort," but the missed tackle stat focuses on failure to end the play.

In essence, it's a stat for failed opportunities where a defender gets close but lets the runner escape or continue gaining ground, differentiating from a broken tackle where the initial contact was strong but evaded.
 
PAcuse said:
This is how PFF grades it out

Key Factors in Determining a Missed Tackle:

Opportunity: The defender must have been in a position to make the tackle, close enough to make a definitive stop.
Failure to Finish: The defender makes contact (e.g., reaches out, gets a hand on the runner) but doesn't bring the runner down or significantly impede their progress.

Open Field: Often emphasized in open-field situations where there's no help, making the miss more impactful.
Intent vs. Execution: It's about the result of the attempt—did the runner get away/continue? If so, it's often marked as a miss, even if the defender forced a change of direction.

What's NOT a Missed Tackle (Usually):

Broken Tackles: When the runner breaks a solid tackle attempt (e.g., stiff-arms or spins out of a strong grasp).
Successful Tackles: When the defender wraps up and brings the runner down, regardless of how many defenders were involved (though solo efforts are often highlighted).

Legal Contact Only: A defender missing a tackle but still forcing the runner out of bounds or making them stumble might be a "good effort," but the missed tackle stat focuses on failure to end the play.

In essence, it's a stat for failed opportunities where a defender gets close but lets the runner escape or continue gaining ground, differentiating from a broken tackle where the initial contact was strong but evaded.
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does PFF use AI to analyze this or do they actually have people watch every game?
 
for what its worth, the majority of people working for the PFF college stuff are themselves College Interns
 
So I guess the key is to make a solid attempt and anything else doesnt classify as a missed tackle.

The reality is that a solid attempt is not really all they helpful most of the time to the team.
 
ImperialOrange said:
Big thing is we will once again be recruiting Ohio and honestly isn't a culture shock to NY sans NYC. Ohio State pulls national talent and simply cannot take all in state talents. Ohio kids are tough as nails, take football extremely seriously, and that is truly something we've largely lacked.
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One thing I did infact enjoy of the shafer era
 
DomeFoam44 said:
Guy built a fortress at Toledo. #3 in total D, #4 in scoring D, 12.2 points per game. That’s not MAC-good. That’s elite.

He turned down Nebraska. Turned down Toledo HC. Chose Fran and the 315.

Won 2 nattys at Mount Union. Went 95-6. Developed NFL guys like Quinyon Mitchell.

Syracuse gave up 35 a game last year. That ends now.

Kehres isn’t just a DC. He’s a culture-changer. Let’s cook.
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Turning down a HC job really surprised me. That is your typical stepping stone to bigger things.
Kudos to Fran for selling Kehres on the Cuse, and attracting a great DC candidate!
 
DomeFoam44 said:
Vince is no fool. He turned down Toledo because he sees the bigger prize. Stick around, win with Fran Brown, and he’s the obvious next man up when Fran inevitably gets poached. He didn’t pass on a MAC job, he bet on becoming an ACC head coach. That’s not luck that’s strategy.
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This is also my read on the situation. Fran gets back on track and we go 9-3/10-2 next year and it will be interesting to see what happens.
 
He didn’t turn down the HC job at Toledo. They said they would interview him as part of a national search - this according to the Toledo beat writer. Doesn’t make his accomplishments any less impressive
 

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