We need a real AD like yesterday...

[Jake]

Now we're twisting Jim Brown's words. show.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

 

[GoSU96]

That's entirely consistent with what Floyd Little said at the announcement.

 

[jekelish]

That's entirely consistent with what Floyd Little said at the announcement.

Exactly. It's people taking it and spinning it for the sake of a story. It's a non story. Jim Brown said: "I didn't make a fuss about it and I told them whatever they wanted to do was OK with me."

People are completely ignoring that line. How is that not something to be construed as a blessing?

 

[TheCusian]

Exactly. It's people taking it and spinning it for the sake of a story. It's a non story. Jim Brown said: "I didn't make a fuss about it and I told them whatever they wanted to do was OK with me." People are completely ignoring that line. How is that not something to be construed as a blessing?

Bailey and Axe want a story. They were salivating over there. Sad.

 

[jekelish]

Here's my take on Jim Brown's comments: http://.com/jim-brown-speaks-out-on-44/

 

[HeaterCuse22]

Now we're twisting Jim Brown's words. show.

Jake I agree with you on the AD statement, I disagree that anything was twisted. And I respect you here like top three on the whole board.

 

[HeaterCuse22]

And for the record. I could give to *&ks what JB thinks. I wonder if Ray Rice will have his number acknowledged and plaza built for him. I say that as person who has had family involved in these matters.

 

[Millhouse]

i want to see players wear 44 again. if that means radio hosts have something to talk about, whatever. i think it's great that we're not sure if brown is angry, that's a step up from his usual demeanor

 

[Jake]

Exactly. It's people taking it and spinning it for the sake of a story. It's a non story. Jim Brown said: "I didn't make a fuss about it and I told them whatever they wanted to do was OK with me." People are completely ignoring that line. How is that not something to be construed as a blessing?

Ahh. Didn't see that statement. Twitter scribes didn't mention that.

If that's what Brown said, then I agree...tacit approval.

 

[jekelish]

Ahh. Didn't see that statement. Twitter scribes didn't mention that.

If that's what Brown said, then I agree...tacit approval.

Yeah, not surprising that the local media is latching onto the parts that can be perceived as negative and only reporting on that and completely ignoring the fact that he admits he basically told them it was okay to go ahead and do it, even if he wasn't fully fired up about the idea.

 

[texascpa]

As I posted in the other thread,

"When I did get a call from an executive up there, I didn't make a fuss about it and I told them whatever they wanted to do was OK with me."

That's all I care about. They decided to do it, let Brown know, he said "okay", then they announced. Now, if Brown said "Hell No", I think this would be been a bad decision, but he didn't.

 

[Jake]

Yeah. That's Bailey twisting Browns words, not Sala.

 

[jekelish]

I actually put this one primarily on Axe. He's entrenched in his opinion on the subject and keeps looking for ways to hammer it home to "prove he's right" about it.

 

[reedny]

Un-retiring a number, particularly one with so much historic significance, is always going to be risky. It's a tough time to do it with a temporary AD. But they took the right steps going to JB and FL. Others have worn the number, but if those two (most famous) players didn't have a problem with it, I don't see why fans should be up in arms about it.

I'm not saying that hanging a number doesn't mean something .. but Syracuse needs a boost. FB is at a crossing point, struggling to be competitive in a new conference. We need talent and one of the best ways to sell recruits -- and to remind them of the storied history of SU FB along the way -- is to give out #44 again.

Not only is this not an insult to Jim Brown or Floyd Little (or others who wore it), I think it freshens our memory of SU's tradition. It reminds us how special it is to have a number worn by two hall of fame players that suited up for the orange. That can't be a bad thing at this stage of the program.

 

[jekelish]

Un-retiring a number, particularly one with so much historic significance, is always going to be risky. It's a tough time to do it with a temporary AD. But they took the right steps going to JB and FL. Others have worn the number, but if those two (most famous) players didn't have a problem with it, I don't why fans should be up in arms about it.

I'm not saying that hanging a number doesn't mean something .. but Syracuse needs a boost. FB is at a crossing point, struggling to be competitive in a new conference. We need talent and one of the best ways to sell recruits -- and to remind them of the storied history of SU FB along the way -- is to give out #44 again.

Not only is this not an insult to Jim Brown or Floyd Little (or others who wore it), I think it freshens the memory of how great those guys were. It hows how special it is to have a number worn by such great players. That can't be a bad thing at this stage of the program.

I agree completely. The number would have just been sitting in the rafters, very rarely ever getting mentioned on broadcasts.

Now, however, every time a player takes the field wearing 44 it's a guaranteed talking point - reminding people why it's so significant and casually letting people know that yes, we have a great freaking history at Syracuse.

 

[SU68]

I think that was Jim Brown just being Jim Brown. Take it with a grain of salt. Did you notice that he was wearing an orange tie in the interview?

 

[retro44]

They are hoping to have an new A.D. by the time football season starts. That's all I know and no names have surfaced since my last convo.

 

[Full_Rebar]

Brown's comment hardly equates to giving his blessing though. He's not against it, but he's not doing cartwheels about someone else wearing it. I don't blame the media for questioning it-especially after the whole debacle a couple of weeks ago

 

[OrangeDW]

Sick of this whiny dork always trying to make things look bad.

 

[FAL]

Brown's comment hardly equates to giving his blessing though. He's not against it, but he's not doing cartwheels about someone else wearing it. I don't blame the media for questioning it-especially after the whole debacle a couple of weeks ago

And who was responsible for the debacle... Floyd Little? ...Jim Brown?
on the hill had a golden opportunity and turned it into dog . Media will be more than happy to dive into a steaming pile if it will garner them more hits.

 

[brian]

you know this is running front page on ESPN, Adelson article has quotes from Brown saying he never talked to anyone before they decided to do it so "they" couldn't of had his blessing. Looks like her article came out an hour after the PS, think she just copy and pasted Axes' BS. Media is slamming SU big time, and not that it matters but so are the following comments at the bottom of the article. As far as Axe goes, the guy secretly graduated from Rutgers. I use to like some of his stuff a few years back but he pretty has become anti-syracuse

 

[reedny]

you know this is running front page on ESPN, Adelson article has quotes from Brown saying he never talked to anyone before they decided to do it so "they" couldn't of had his blessing. Looks like her article came out an hour after the PS, think she just copy and pasted Axes' BS. Media is slamming SU big time, and not that it matters but so are the following comments at the bottom of the article. As far as Axe goes, the guy secretly graduated from Rutgers. I use to like some of his stuff a few years back but he pretty has become anti-syracuse

OMG no wonder .. he has a "diploma" from Rutgirls?

 

[Cheriehoop]

Brent Axe isn't a journalist, he's not a reporter according to Syracuse.com ironically he's called a "Community Engagement Specialist - Sports" for their digital operations. He's not even noted as a commentator nor as a columnist on their website. I guess Axe believes that the best way to engage the community with sports is to assume the role of a negative or controversial opinion pundit. He's been given a venue that he's using to vent his own personal opinion while needing clicks to preserve his existence. So I don't click.

Axe's been fighting the restore 44 movement for ages (this article is 6 and a half years old) so he's just looking for anything to try to validate his own agenda and personal opinion while generating job saving clicks. Uggh

http://www.syracuse.com/orangefootball/index.ssf/2009/01/44_reborn_response.html

 

[Orangepace]

Personally, I think that retiring the #44 was the worst idea ever thought of.. Yes, it has historical significance to the University and to ALL the players who wore it. This is why I think the theory the basketball team uses is best. Retire the jersey, not the number. Give prominence to the person, not the number. There should be a separate ceremony every home game this season to retire each 44 that deserves to be in the rafters individually.