Week 5 Uniforms for Holy Cross

[sufandu]

"We are not at the same level as the programs you mentioned"

I don't get this thinking.

I don't understand why a fan of this program would choose to see the program as inferior or not worthy of being mentioned with Alabama or Ohio State or USC.

The fact is that in the history of college football we are right there with the schools I mentioned.

We have a tremendous heritage.

We are not a hack program that needs a gimmick.

And, I have said this before and I'm sorry if it bothers you, but I don't care what the players like. I have no doubt that a strong traditional uniform attracts players - I have no doubt that the classic Alabama uniform appeals to kids.

The players are here for four years - the Program is forever.

I lean toward a more traditional look too, but to say we are with those other programs is inaccurate. We have history but we have not maintained success consistently across eras the way they have and are viewed differently. I don't like that, but it's the truth. We have 1 NC from the '50's and one Heisman from the '60's. All of them have multiple undefeated seasons, NC's, and Heisman's spread across multiple eras.

 

[longtimefan]

I didn't even know until today the official color is orange and gray. I'd much rather orange and gray uniforms.

Not so. See post #43 above.

 

[OrangeDW]

Are the Bluemen gonna run out of the tunnel to a little Eiffel 65?

 

[721Comstock]

At least the stupid gray ones are gone. I remember that VT upset in 2016, not even knowing which team was Syracuse at first.

You’re saying you didn’t know?

It’s not your fault.

 

[NJCuse97]

tulane wears lots of green

but our dedicated intern at nike doesn't like the color orange

I may be late, but did you see what Tulane wore when they played Houston!?

 

[OrangePA]

I lean toward a more traditional look too, but to say we are with those other programs is inaccurate. We have history but we have not maintained success consistently across eras the way they have and are viewed differently. I don't like that, but it's the truth. We have 1 NC from the '50's and one Heisman from the '60's. All of them have multiple undefeated seasons, NC's, and Heisman's spread across multiple eras.

I see.

So we should treat the program as a second rate program?

We should look like a MAC team? Or we should look like UCF or USF or some other mediocre program?

That's not what I choose to do.

I choose to view the program as a cornerstone college football tradition that deserves respect.
I believe that the program should be viewed, presented and treated the same way that Alabama treats its program or the way USC treats its program.

If you think you are inferior, you will never convince kids to think otherwise.

So, I would do as Alabama, USC, Texas, Auburn do.

I would do what the NY Yankees do.

I would forego the gimmick uniforms and I would fully embrace the program's traditional brand.

.

 

[CuseOnly]

This goes back to the saying when something is subjective nobody's opinion is right or wrong. When its objective its quantitative and measurable. Preference for the jerseys is clearly not objective its subjective.
Thus nobody is right or wrong as long they have their own opinion.

If I recall correctly, SU has in the past both worn white helmets as well as white pants.

 

[CuseOnly]

I got no problem with blue being the color we use to go with Orange. I am just stating the fact blue isn't an official color. The second color could literally be any color.
It has been blue for a while but teams change color schemes all the time.

It could become black and orange, white and orange, pink and orange, light blue and orange. I am just pointing the fact blue isn't a school color.

Awesome, thanks, now most of us got it.

BTW...its not gonna stop the team from wearing blue. But good job though.

 

[dollarbill44]

duke always wears a lot of blue
stanford, alabama, texas tech, harvard, rutgers always wears a lot of red
tulane wears lots of green

but our dedicated intern at nike doesn't like the color orange

I don't think the above is true. Rutgers, TTech, Stanford all wear black uniforms too. Rutgers has as many combos as SU. Tulane actually has light blue uniforms this year.

 

[Bulldog04]

it’s amazing that there is so much debate when literally these uniforms are just for the players and future players. There is endless marketing capability in uniforms to create a buzz about a program obv... Oregon wouldn’t have come to fruition the way it did without outrageous uniforms and a Jordan brand contract that entices kids and secures recruits left and right Bc that’s what the KIDS NOT ADULTS want... also hope that everyone knows that the players on the team pick the uniforms every single week. Guess what- they don’t care what “we” want to see .. they are 18-22 year old kids that are living out their dream playing for SU. For the love of god let them have fun with it and stop living in the past

 

[DoubleDee]

What we are “supposed” to look like is all very relative to what you’ve witnessed.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

 

[sufandu]

I see.

So we should treat the program as a second rate program?

We should look like a MAC team? Or we should look like UCF or USF or some other mediocre program?

That's not what I choose to do.

I choose to view the program as a cornerstone college football tradition that deserves respect.
I believe that the program should be viewed, presented and treated the same way that Alabama treats its program or the way USC treats its program.

If you think you are inferior, you will never convince kids to think otherwise.

So, I would do as Alabama, USC, Texas, Auburn do.

I would do what the NY Yankees do.

I would forego the gimmick uniforms and I would fully embrace the program's traditional brand.

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I'm not telling you to treat the program in any manner. I don't think the uniform combinations we've seen equates to reducing the program to a lower level.

Your argument was that our history is as strong as the teams you mentioned. With orange colored glasses it may be. From numerous objective measures it is not. Admitting that doesn't shoot us to the opposite end of the spectrum. There is an in between, which is where we fall.

Every uniform combination we have seen this year involves colors we have traditionally worn, even if not in the ratios we have traditionally used. Complaining about what we have seen so far this year is mucha ado about nothing.

I voiced my disdain for the old uniforms and am not advocating crazy styles or colors. What we have now is solid, even if the abundance of blue we'll see this weekend isn't my favorite.

 

[PAcuse]

I’m just saying what she won’t.

Haha, you might be on to something...

 

[DoubleDee]

I’d love to see the Clemson board when they go purple/purple.

Nevermind, they’re really good and probably don’t let that bother them.

 

[Millhouse]

Are the Bluemen gonna run out of the tunnel to a little Eiffel 65?

 

[Millhouse]

What we are “supposed” to look like is all very relative to what you’ve witnessed.

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most of those, they're wearing something orange. which makes sense that's our team name

 

[CuseOnly]

We are wearing orange lids and there is a lot more orange accents on our "blues" than there were previously.

most of those, they're wearing something orange. which makes sense that's our team name

 

[GoCuse14]

Well if you want a different mishmash of colors every week then knock yourself out. I prefer the colors that say SU to people watching on TV with some semblance of continuity.

Most people just read the name and go...hey...its Syracuse. Works for me.

I used to hate these threads...now I love watching grown peeps moan over college football uniforms. Its great.

 

[Alsacs]

We are wearing orange lids and there is a lot more orange accents on our "blues" than there were previously.

Awesome thanks, it still doesn’t change the point he is making we are the Orange and not the “blues”.
It’s not going to stop people from actually wanting the team’s primary color featured in the uniform be orange.
Good point though.

 

[Atlcuse44]

What we are “supposed” to look like is all very relative to what you’ve witnessed.

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Could not agree more. I never understood the "we must only wear O-B-O home & O-W-O away crowd". Yes, those were the combos during one our most successful eras (mid 80's - 2001) but that wasn't always the case. Don't get me wrong, I love that look but I don't buy the "that doesn't look like Syracuse' argument for different combos.

I get it, some of you want Syracuse to have an identity like Bama, USC & Ped ST (well maybe not them) but we are not like them and probaly will never be.

 

[rrlbees]

Most people just read the name and go...hey...its Syracuse. Works for me.

I used to hate these threads...now I love watching grown peeps moan over college football uniforms. Its great.

Exactly. Grown men who want some tradition and not look like a different team each week. I don’t care what team it is, navy blue and navy blue looks clownish.

 

[rrlbees]

Could not agree more. I never understood the "we must only wear O-B-O home & O-W-O away crowd". Yes, those were the combos during one our most successful eras (mid 80's - 2001) but that wasn't always the case. Don't get me wrong, I love that look but I don't buy the "that doesn't look like Syracuse' argument for different combos.

I get it, some of you want Syracuse to have an identity like Bama, USC & Ped ST (well maybe not them) but we are not like them and probaly will never be.

Also the Marrone era.

 

[Millhouse]

We are wearing orange lids and there is a lot more orange accents on our "blues" than there were previously.

it goes without saying our helmets should be orange

 

[Millhouse]

i root for the sabres. the best teams they've had since I can remember anything, they wore a dumb black and red mad cow logo and then went back to blue and yellow but turned the logo into a banana slug. whenever i see any old videos of those teams, instead of thinking "that was fun" i think "that was fun but those uniforms are so bad"

when your team does something great, you'll want them to look the way they're supposed to look years down the line

we could have a unique thing here where we're an instantly recognizable non-factory and nike keeps messing it up