What I'm hearing

[Alsacs]

So what have we learned from this thread?

- Anybody any good is leaving because JB was mean to them.
- Nobody in next year's class will be any good.
- If the next coach is taken from the staff, he will be a failure
- If the next coach comes from outside the staff, he will be a success.
- Ihe program is "the Titanic"

It's good to know all this in advance. At least we have time to get the lifejackets on and get into the lifeboats.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

So what have we learned from this thread?

- Anybody any good is leaving because JB was mean to them.
- Nobody in next year's class will be any good.
- If the next coach is taken from the staff, he will be a failure
- If the next coach comes from outside the staff, he will be a success.
- Ihe program is "the Titanic"

It's good to know all this in advance. At least we have time to get the lifejackets on and get into the lifeboats.

Yeah, but also

 

[the villager]

I think the “ironclad reference” is referring to the Hop “coach in waiting” plan that was not honored. Meaning this new plan is guaranteed.

 

[djcon57]

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after the embarrassing “you are all chicken little” type early this season, you’d think people would learn.

 

[Cuse_NYC]

If it’s not outside, it has to be Hop, and anyone that would rather chance Red over Hop is lying to themselves. Look at the recruiting since Hop left.

 

[Gotothehole]

Seems like the Philly/BMore kids all did well here though?

Hop and Red made that happen.

 

[llandz]

A national search….,in name. I would be absolutely shocked if Felisha Leggette is not the next coach here.

It just sounded better than saying I'm gonna take a drive on the NYS Thruway. Or shuffling off to Buffalo.

 

[Cuseball]

Jesse could pull a Kofi Cockburn put himself in the portal and decide to comeback.

He deserves that. It would get him some love and appreciation he deserves

He could but he is nowhere near Kofi Cockburn so there is that

Cuse!

 

[BigNastyJon]

I have a big dinghy.

I’ve got a big nasty dinghy

 

[orangefog]

I’ve got a big nasty dinghy

I’ve got a big shot of penicillin, you can have it.

 

[miamicuse]

May be Von Read will be men's HCIW.

 

[CousCuse]

U douba kicked the crap outa Oregon. Hop's the guy to coach the Orange.

 

[jdubs30]

Could you clarify why you mean by Quadir’s buy in? Are you saying the AAU guys think quadir could be the deciding factor of whether Mintz comes or not?

Buy in to a potential redshirt. If Mintz doesn’t come QC is the 3rd guard with Taylor. If Mintz comes that’s about 32mpg gone right off the bat plus at least another 32 for Joe. Then you still Sy and someone like Taylor who could play rhe 2/3. In that situation they’d prefer QC to redshirt but he’d have to agree to it I believe

 

[IthacaMatt]

Buy in to a potential redshirt. If Mintz doesn’t come QC is the 3rd guard with Taylor. If Mintz comes that’s about 32mpg gone right off the bat plus at least another 32 for Joe. Then you still Sy and someone like Taylor who could play rhe 2/3. In that situation they’d prefer QC to redshirt but he’d have to agree to it I believe

He's already doing a prep year right now at IMG. I don't think he would redshirt. He'd find another landing spot.

 

[jdubs30]

He's already doing a prep year right now at IMG. I don't think he would redshirt. He'd find another landing spot.

Which is what was meant by “Quadirs buy in”. Perhaps the staff would prefer 3 years of QC over 1 year of Judah ?

 

[kidorange]

I thought the other day about assistants leaving being a tell but the I also thought there might be some hesitancy to leave (loyalty) if it is JB's last year.

I also think ironclad means a drop dead departure date and not so much a succession plan. Hop's my guy if I had to pick. I could imagine him reaching out if he wants it despite the ethics of it all.

 

[alphaorange]

With the right athletes the zone is fine

The problem with having very good athletes for the zone is that you still have to score. In todays game that means being able to shoot the 3 and more. Put the 2 together and you have a very special requirement: Being able to shoot, pass, handle, as well as being long and athletic. Good luck.

 

[OrangeDW]

The problem with having very good athletes for the zone is that you still have to score. In todays game that means being able to shoot the 3 and more. Put the 2 together and you have a very special requirement: Being able to shoot, pass, handle, as well as being long and athletic. Good luck.

The kind of guy we either can’t land, or if we do they leave before they’re even productive because they have all the measurables and potential.

 

[Cusefan0307]

The problem with having very good athletes for the zone is that you still have to score. In todays game that means being able to shoot the 3 and more. Put the 2 together and you have a very special requirement: Being able to shoot, pass, handle, as well as being long and athletic. Good luck.

Yeah. So many teams play 3 guards these days and we can’t because we are pigeonholed into a pre determined defensive alignment.

 

[OrangeDW]

Yeah. So many teams play 3 guards these days and we can’t because we are pigeonholed into a pre determined defensive alignment.

We’d be better off recruiting two long athletic shotblockers/dunkers that DONT have perimeter skills(because they’d be one and done or never come here), and 3 Villanova type pitbull guards that do it all and will stick around until they’re like 23, and going 3-2 zone. Would be a way more natural fit for sending the bigs out to the corners, and would have better coverage of the perimeter.

Maybe even extending the zone out to a half court or 3 quarter court trap sometimes.

 

[Capt. Tuttle]

It came from the ONE comment about him not being strong enough. All the other criticism was pretty fair, especially after his disappointing performance against Pitt. It’s all completely ignoring the numerous times that JB has gone out of his way to support him and even call him a top 10 center in the country.

Our society has evolved that even truth is seen as mean. Jesse has committed silly fouls and isn’t strong enough, yet

 

[OrangeDW]

Our society has evolved that even truth is seen as mean. Jesse has committed silly fouls and isn’t sting enough, yet

Yeah, all that game thread criticism of the city rocks guys getting too many minutes was so mean!

You want it to be one way.

But it’s the other way. (C) Marlo

 

[Alsacs]

It came from the ONE comment about him not being strong enough. All the other criticism was pretty fair, especially after his disappointing performance against Pitt. It’s all completely ignoring the numerous times that JB has gone out of his way to support him and even call him a top 10 center in the country.

When has JB ever said anything tough criticism publicly about Buddy?

Jesse can get tough love publicly but Buddy can’t?

First off he shouldn’t rip any kid publicly but if he won’t rip some kids at all then shut up about our best player.

 

[OrangeDW]

When has JB ever said anything negative about Buddy?

Jesse can get tough love publicly but Buddy can’t?

First off be shouldn’t rip any kid publicly but if he won’t rip some kids at all then shut up about our best player.

But he’s the first guy going nuts about who gets criticized in the game threads. Hilarious double standard.

 

[Alsacs]

But he’s the first guy going nuts about who gets criticized in the game threads. Hilarious double standard.

We had to literally adjust the zone because the top can’t keep the ball out of the middle but every time the centers don’t cover the wing at a timeout the bigs are getting yelled at.

Jesse Edwards shouldn’t get picked on at press conferences.
Again certain players are teflon and others are fair game.

How would JB react if his kid played at another school and the Hc said listen this kid is so bad at keeping the ball out of a spot I have to literally adjust the defense for him just to make it not be the worst defense ever.