What I'm hearing

[Cheriehoop]

The McDaniels family have been bad mouthing him claiming he mishandled jaden. They have two kids in the nba and have many local aau relationships. Jaden was a head case and was not a good player. He couldn't even shoot a jump shot and hop honestly protected him more than he should have which is the irony. Hop has not been here long enough and didn't have good enough relationship to with stand it. It really hurt him recruiting Seattle. He also has crappy assistants which is on him. That is his issue.

Choosing good assistants is key to a head coach’s success. Not good at all if his judgement is actually lacking regarding assistants that can evaluate recruits, misjudges the value of their recruiting connections and ability to develop players over time.

 

[SU94]

Good for you for coming up with a few other outliers.

Doesn't change the fact that the Belichick example is overused and not especially compelling -- because it is the grand-daddy of all outliers. To a far greater extent than Roy Williams is.

Replacing a legend isn't easy. Want to know the way to ensure that the successor will fail? By artificially constraining your choices to a bunch of inadequate candidates, instead of seeking to hire the best, most qualified replacement you can.

That article ought to be required reading for Hopkins enthusiasts who have nothing to go on beyond blind, misguided faith. Sorry that it strongly pokes holes in the case for the horse you're backing.

We got a dry run with Louisville and Maryland this year and even Michigan a few years back (he was not the first choice!). Ohio State too. Let’s state the obvious, the college game is not brimming over with obvious next generation head coaching talent. It’s sad actually, because too many of the young guys cheat and don’t actually work to perfect their craft. They don’t actually coach.

Since you’ve ostensibly taken the lead for the anti Hop, Red, GMac brigade, I wonder who is on your list of fantastic head coaching talents that are going to come to SU one year from now? Curious to see that list.

Let’s make this simple: Mike Hopkins is an institutional fit. If he came back, it would be welcome/galvonizing news among the SU BOT, SU alums, SU basketball alums, the academic administration, the athletic administration. the CNY community and the far-flung fanbase. That is a helluva foundation to begin with. It’s been a while (likely about 6-7 years) since everyone in our Orange universe was pulling the rope in the same direction. Since the second batch of sanctions (2015) if you ask me.

The type of National search you are championing is plastic and hollow. It’s one most ADs cover their ass with by paying $150K for a search firm. Let’s collect resumes. Let’s let Turnkey Sports/Gene DiFillippo — ex of Boston flicking College — help us make the decision. Just like the one where he chose to fire Al Skinner. Or fire Coach Jags (spelling?) out of spite. Yeah, that’s the caliber of input we need with this hire. Gimme a break. Don’t get me started on search firms.

Wildhack is too good at what he does to go this route. He knows we very, very likely cannot outspend at B10 or SEC school (sorry Oats loyalists). Shaka ain’t coming here. Rick P. is not paving the way for Richard. We aren’t hiring deep-rooted bag dudes either.

Wildhack will handle this like an adult, not one looking to obliterate zone defense from the face of the earth. No, he will make a professional run at Hopkins (who will get an opportunity to get a raise, reset the shot clock on his coaching tenure, have an enhanced opportunity to win in his most fertile recruiting territory and come home to what is still a top10 program) and as part of the deal, insist on a seasoned bench coach (akin to the Dino model). Beilein could be approached. He would likely decline, unless he got Patrick in too (more doubtful after the SUWT fallout). Red or GMac will stick around, not both. Griff will find a new gig.

Hopkins is gonna be going against a ton of bagmen, so we will need his recruiting chops and focus, as well as his staff’s. Who is Troy Weaver 2.0? And lastly, a somewhat significant increase to the program’s budget is also likely to be part of this, as HC salaries, staff salaries and increased recruiting budgets don’t pay for themselves.

It’ll happen and it’ll look and feel close to this. Hopkins will do well and keep the seat warm for Buddy or Jimmy in 2041.

 

[two3zone]

Choosing good assistants is key to a head coach’s success. Not good at all if his judgement is actually lacking regarding assistants that can evaluate recruits, misjudges the value of their recruiting connections and ability to develop players over time.

Lol

 

[Orangefizz]

We got a dry run with Louisville and Maryland this year and even Michigan a few years back (he was not the first choice!). Ohio State too. Let’s state the obvious, the college game is not brimming over with obvious next generation head coaching talent. It’s sad actually, because too many of the young guys cheat and don’t actually work to perfect their craft. They don’t actually coach.

Since you’ve ostensibly taken the lead for the anti Hop, Red, GMac brigade, I wonder who is on your list of fantastic head coaching talents that are going to come to SU one year from now? Curious to see that list.

Let’s make this simple: Mike Hopkins is an institutional fit. If he came back, it would be welcome/galvonizing news among the SU BOT, SU alums, SU basketball alums, the academic administration, the athletic administration. the CNY community and the far-flung fanbase. That is a helluva foundation to begin with. It’s been a while (likely about 6-7 years) since everyone in our Orange universe was pulling the rope in the same direction. Since the second batch of sanctions (2015) if you ask me.

The type of National search you are championing is plastic and hollow. It’s one most ADs cover their ass with by paying $150K for a search firm. Let’s collect resumes. Let’s let Turnkey Sports/Gene DiFillippo — ex of Boston flicking College — help us make the decision. Just like the one where he chose to fire Al Skinner. Or fire Coach Jags (spelling?) out of spite. Yeah, that’s the caliber of input we need with this hire. Gimme a break. Don’t get me started on search firms.

Wildhack is too good at what he does to go this route. He knows we very, very likely cannot outspend at B10 or SEC school (sorry Oats loyalists). Shaka ain’t coming here. Rick P. is not paving the way for Richard. We aren’t hiring deep-rooted bag dudes either.

Wildhack will handle this like an adult, not one looking to obliterate zone defense from the face of the earth. No, he will make a professional run at Hopkins (who will get an opportunity to get a raise, reset the shot clock on his coaching tenure, have an enhanced opportunity to win in his most fertile recruiting territory and come home to what is still a top10 program) and as part of the deal, insist on a seasoned bench coach (akin to the Dino model). Beilein could be approached. He would likely decline, unless he got Patrick in too (more doubtful after the SUWT fallout). Red or GMac will stick around, not both. Griff will find a new gig.

Hopkins is gonna be going against a ton of bagmen, so we will need his recruiting chops and focus, as well as his staff’s. Who is Troy Weaver 2.0? And lastly, a somewhat significant increase to the program’s budget is also likely to be part of this, as HC salaries, staff salaries and increased recruiting budgets don’t pay for themselves.

It’ll happen and it’ll look and feel close to this. Hopkins will do well and keep the seat warm for Buddy or Jimmy in 2041.

Troy Weaver 2.0; it Bino Ransom; but i can also see Jeremy Pope in that role with his AAU ties and relationships with Adam Weitsman, Hop, Devo.

Mike Hopkins, Head Coach

• Bruce Weber, bench coach
• Gerry McNamara, Assistant
• Jeremy Pope, Assistant

 

[Jake]

We got a dry run with Louisville and Maryland this year and even Michigan a few years back (he was not the first choice!). Ohio State too. Let’s state the obvious, the college game is not brimming over with obvious next generation head coaching talent. It’s sad actually, because too many of the young guys cheat and don’t actually work to perfect their craft. They don’t actually coach.

Since you’ve ostensibly taken the lead for the anti Hop, Red, GMac brigade, I wonder who is on your list of fantastic head coaching talents that are going to come to SU one year from now? Curious to see that list.

Let’s make this simple: Mike Hopkins is an institutional fit. If he came back, it would be welcome/galvonizing news among the SU BOT, SU alums, SU basketball alums, the academic administration, the athletic administration. the CNY community and the far-flung fanbase. That is a helluva foundation to begin with. It’s been a while (likely about 6-7 years) since everyone in our Orange universe was pulling the rope in the same direction. Since the second batch of sanctions (2015) if you ask me.

The type of National search you are championing is plastic and hollow. It’s one most ADs cover their ass with by paying $150K for a search firm. Let’s collect resumes. Let’s let Turnkey Sports/Gene DiFillippo — ex of Boston flicking College — help us make the decision. Just like the one where he chose to fire Al Skinner. Or fire Coach Jags (spelling?) out of spite. Yeah, that’s the caliber of input we need with this hire. Gimme a break. Don’t get me started on search firms.

Wildhack is too good at what he does to go this route. He knows we very, very likely cannot outspend at B10 or SEC school (sorry Oats loyalists). Shaka ain’t coming here. Rick P. is not paving the way for Richard. We aren’t hiring deep-rooted bag dudes either.

Wildhack will handle this like an adult, not one looking to obliterate zone defense from the face of the earth. No, he will make a professional run at Hopkins (who will get an opportunity to get a raise, reset the shot clock on his coaching tenure, have an enhanced opportunity to win in his most fertile recruiting territory and come home to what is still a top10 program) and as part of the deal, insist on a seasoned bench coach (akin to the Dino model). Beilein could be approached. He would likely decline, unless he got Patrick in too (more doubtful after the SUWT fallout). Red or GMac will stick around, not both. Griff will find a new gig.

Hopkins is gonna be going against a ton of bagmen, so we will need his recruiting chops and focus, as well as his staff’s. Who is Troy Weaver 2.0? And lastly, a somewhat significant increase to the program’s budget is also likely to be part of this, as HC salaries, staff salaries and increased recruiting budgets don’t pay for themselves.

It’ll happen and it’ll look and feel close to this. Hopkins will do well and keep the seat warm for Buddy or Jimmy in 2041.

Holy crap this ^^^^^.

There are so many fewer candidates now because coaches salaries are out of control. The SEC and Big have coaches that you are never going to get.

The pool is simply shrunk.

What has happened at Louisville is a shot across the bow. They have a great fan base, amazing facilities, great tradition. They have gone back to the alumni route…because there wasn’t much else out there.

We’re sinking into a competitive disadvantage that eerily feels like football circa 2000.

 

[MikeSU02]

Again, I ask, why not do a truly national search that is open to internal and external candidates?

Put Hop’s hat in the ring. See what happens. If he wins, he wins.

And, again, if we’re already 90% likelihood of Hop or Red, that is a massive failure in process.

Massive.

Salaries are more? That’s what happens literally everywhere in a ton of industries.

Wildhack is paid well to do a hard job. This was always going to be the event that defined his tenure. It’s game time. He has to step up.

 

[All4SU]

Whatever is going to happen, it is already happening. You know that JW is already mapping out plans and contingencies. He and JB know the schedule. JB has already given his input. Regardless of whatever we might hear in the news or on the street, wheels are in motion.

 

[STEVEHOLT]

We got a dry run with Louisville and Maryland this year and even Michigan a few years back (he was not the first choice!). Ohio State too. Let’s state the obvious, the college game is not brimming over with obvious next generation head coaching talent. It’s sad actually, because too many of the young guys cheat and don’t actually work to perfect their craft. They don’t actually coach.

Since you’ve ostensibly taken the lead for the anti Hop, Red, GMac brigade, I wonder who is on your list of fantastic head coaching talents that are going to come to SU one year from now? Curious to see that list.

Let’s make this simple: Mike Hopkins is an institutional fit. If he came back, it would be welcome/galvonizing news among the SU BOT, SU alums, SU basketball alums, the academic administration, the athletic administration. the CNY community and the far-flung fanbase. That is a helluva foundation to begin with. It’s been a while (likely about 6-7 years) since everyone in our Orange universe was pulling the rope in the same direction. Since the second batch of sanctions (2015) if you ask me.

The type of National search you are championing is plastic and hollow. It’s one most ADs cover their ass with by paying $150K for a search firm. Let’s collect resumes. Let’s let Turnkey Sports/Gene DiFillippo — ex of Boston flicking College — help us make the decision. Just like the one where he chose to fire Al Skinner. Or fire Coach Jags (spelling?) out of spite. Yeah, that’s the caliber of input we need with this hire. Gimme a break. Don’t get me started on search firms.

Wildhack is too good at what he does to go this route. He knows we very, very likely cannot outspend at B10 or SEC school (sorry Oats loyalists). Shaka ain’t coming here. Rick P. is not paving the way for Richard. We aren’t hiring deep-rooted bag dudes either.

Wildhack will handle this like an adult, not one looking to obliterate zone defense from the face of the earth. No, he will make a professional run at Hopkins (who will get an opportunity to get a raise, reset the shot clock on his coaching tenure, have an enhanced opportunity to win in his most fertile recruiting territory and come home to what is still a top10 program) and as part of the deal, insist on a seasoned bench coach (akin to the Dino model). Beilein could be approached. He would likely decline, unless he got Patrick in too (more doubtful after the SUWT fallout). Red or GMac will stick around, not both. Griff will find a new gig.

Hopkins is gonna be going against a ton of bagmen, so we will need his recruiting chops and focus, as well as his staff’s. Who is Troy Weaver 2.0? And lastly, a somewhat significant increase to the program’s budget is also likely to be part of this, as HC salaries, staff salaries and increased recruiting budgets don’t pay for themselves.

It’ll happen and it’ll look and feel close to this. Hopkins will do well and keep the seat warm for Buddy or Jimmy in 2041.

Who was the dude that was hired to do a search and then … after all the research .. recommended he himself be offered the job ?

 

[Cusefan0307]

Who was the dude that was hired to do a search and then … after all the research .. recommended he himself be offered the job ?

I know this happened with the Vice President of the United States circa 2000. Maybe you’re thinking about that?

 

[OrangeXtreme]

Who was the dude that was hired to do a search and then … after all the research .. recommended he himself be offered the job ?

Tom O'Brien?

 

[cliftonparksufan]

Who was the dude that was hired to do a search and then … after all the research .. recommended he himself be offered the job ?

It happens more than you think. My wife was on a search committee and after all the interviews, the other members convinced my wife to take the job as she was the most qualified, but initially didn't show interest.

 

[OrlandoCuse]

Holy crap this ^^^^^.

There are so many fewer candidates now because coaches salaries are out of control. The SEC and Big have coaches that you are never going to get.

The pool is simply shrunk.

What has happened at Louisville is a shot across the bow. They have a great fan base, amazing facilities, great tradition. They have gone back to the alumni route…because there wasn’t much else out there.

We’re sinking into a competitive disadvantage that eerily feels like football circa 2000.

I’ve said it in a previous post, if SU doesn’t open up the pocketbook to pay up for their next head coach it shows they don’t care to maintain the program at an elite level.

 

[AZOrange]

Holy crap this ^^^^^.

There are so many fewer candidates now because coaches salaries are out of control. The SEC and Big have coaches that you are never going to get.

The pool is simply shrunk.

What has happened at Louisville is a shot across the bow. They have a great fan base, amazing facilities, great tradition. They have gone back to the alumni route…because there wasn’t much else out there.

We’re sinking into a competitive disadvantage that eerily feels like football circa 2000.

This is what I’ve been saying for awhile…it’s why nobody can name a great list of realistic candidates

 

[richmondcuse03]

We got a dry run with Louisville and Maryland this year and even Michigan a few years back (he was not the first choice!). Ohio State too. Let’s state the obvious, the college game is not brimming over with obvious next generation head coaching talent. It’s sad actually, because too many of the young guys cheat and don’t actually work to perfect their craft. They don’t actually coach.

Since you’ve ostensibly taken the lead for the anti Hop, Red, GMac brigade, I wonder who is on your list of fantastic head coaching talents that are going to come to SU one year from now? Curious to see that list.

Let’s make this simple: Mike Hopkins is an institutional fit. If he came back, it would be welcome/galvonizing news among the SU BOT, SU alums, SU basketball alums, the academic administration, the athletic administration. the CNY community and the far-flung fanbase. That is a helluva foundation to begin with. It’s been a while (likely about 6-7 years) since everyone in our Orange universe was pulling the rope in the same direction. Since the second batch of sanctions (2015) if you ask me.

The type of National search you are championing is plastic and hollow. It’s one most ADs cover their ass with by paying $150K for a search firm. Let’s collect resumes. Let’s let Turnkey Sports/Gene DiFillippo — ex of Boston flicking College — help us make the decision. Just like the one where he chose to fire Al Skinner. Or fire Coach Jags (spelling?) out of spite. Yeah, that’s the caliber of input we need with this hire. Gimme a break. Don’t get me started on search firms.

Wildhack is too good at what he does to go this route. He knows we very, very likely cannot outspend at B10 or SEC school (sorry Oats loyalists). Shaka ain’t coming here. Rick P. is not paving the way for Richard. We aren’t hiring deep-rooted bag dudes either.

Wildhack will handle this like an adult, not one looking to obliterate zone defense from the face of the earth. No, he will make a professional run at Hopkins (who will get an opportunity to get a raise, reset the shot clock on his coaching tenure, have an enhanced opportunity to win in his most fertile recruiting territory and come home to what is still a top10 program) and as part of the deal, insist on a seasoned bench coach (akin to the Dino model). Beilein could be approached. He would likely decline, unless he got Patrick in too (more doubtful after the SUWT fallout). Red or GMac will stick around, not both. Griff will find a new gig.

Hopkins is gonna be going against a ton of bagmen, so we will need his recruiting chops and focus, as well as his staff’s. Who is Troy Weaver 2.0? And lastly, a somewhat significant increase to the program’s budget is also likely to be part of this, as HC salaries, staff salaries and increased recruiting budgets don’t pay for themselves.

It’ll happen and it’ll look and feel close to this. Hopkins will do well and keep the seat warm for Buddy or Jimmy in 2041.

Bingo. Well said. Agree with it all. X100

 

[cliftonparksufan]

I’ve said it in a previous post, if SU doesn’t open up the pocketbook to pay up for their next head coach it shows they don’t care to maintain the program at an elite level.

Take a guess which way they will go:

Coach A from outside the family: At least $4 million a year
Coach B from inside the family: $2.5 to $3 million a year

 

[Alsacs]

Holy crap this ^^^^^.

There are so many fewer candidates now because coaches salaries are out of control. The SEC and Big have coaches that you are never going to get.

The pool is simply shrunk.

What has happened at Louisville is a shot across the bow. They have a great fan base, amazing facilities, great tradition. They have gone back to the alumni route…because there wasn’t much else out there.

We’re sinking into a competitive disadvantage that eerily feels like football circa 2000.

So then throw a 4-5 million offer per year to Jason Hart and let him say no.

A lot of people see the upside he brings. Hopkins actual performance has affected a lot of people’s views on him. This is legitimate as well. He didn’t take a midmajor job. He took an upper half Pac-12 job and has gone stagnant.
If we hired him after year 2 the hire would make sense. After year 5 he it’s not the same.

Maryland tried to hire Rick Pitino. He stayed loyal to Iona. There were other candidates they could have hired like Pickell at Rutgers. There will be candidates that are appealing if we do a national search.

Mike Hopkins would get supported if he is ulimately selected but he better come in and within 2 years have us contending in the ACC. There won’t be patience based on his resume. An outsider would be get more patience as they would be changing the status quo and you have to give them a chance to get their personnel.
JB to Hop isn’t changing much.

 

[RF2044]

We got a dry run with Louisville and Maryland this year and even Michigan a few years back (he was not the first choice!). Ohio State too. Let’s state the obvious, the college game is not brimming over with obvious next generation head coaching talent. It’s sad actually, because too many of the young guys cheat and don’t actually work to perfect their craft. They don’t actually coach.

Since you’ve ostensibly taken the lead for the anti Hop, Red, GMac brigade, I wonder who is on your list of fantastic head coaching talents that are going to come to SU one year from now? Curious to see that list.

Let’s make this simple: Mike Hopkins is an institutional fit. If he came back, it would be welcome/galvonizing news among the SU BOT, SU alums, SU basketball alums, the academic administration, the athletic administration. the CNY community and the far-flung fanbase. That is a helluva foundation to begin with. It’s been a while (likely about 6-7 years) since everyone in our Orange universe was pulling the rope in the same direction. Since the second batch of sanctions (2015) if you ask me.

The type of National search you are championing is plastic and hollow. It’s one most ADs cover their ass with by paying $150K for a search firm. Let’s collect resumes. Let’s let Turnkey Sports/Gene DiFillippo — ex of Boston flicking College — help us make the decision. Just like the one where he chose to fire Al Skinner. Or fire Coach Jags (spelling?) out of spite. Yeah, that’s the caliber of input we need with this hire. Gimme a break. Don’t get me started on search firms.

Wildhack is too good at what he does to go this route. He knows we very, very likely cannot outspend at B10 or SEC school (sorry Oats loyalists). Shaka ain’t coming here. Rick P. is not paving the way for Richard. We aren’t hiring deep-rooted bag dudes either.

Wildhack will handle this like an adult, not one looking to obliterate zone defense from the face of the earth. No, he will make a professional run at Hopkins (who will get an opportunity to get a raise, reset the shot clock on his coaching tenure, have an enhanced opportunity to win in his most fertile recruiting territory and come home to what is still a top10 program) and as part of the deal, insist on a seasoned bench coach (akin to the Dino model). Beilein could be approached. He would likely decline, unless he got Patrick in too (more doubtful after the SUWT fallout). Red or GMac will stick around, not both. Griff will find a new gig.

Hopkins is gonna be going against a ton of bagmen, so we will need his recruiting chops and focus, as well as his staff’s. Who is Troy Weaver 2.0? And lastly, a somewhat significant increase to the program’s budget is also likely to be part of this, as HC salaries, staff salaries and increased recruiting budgets don’t pay for themselves.

It’ll happen and it’ll look and feel close to this. Hopkins will do well and keep the seat warm for Buddy or Jimmy in 2041.

You're right about one thing -- Wildhack will handle this comprehensively. And as someone who understands advanced metrics, he'll do a better job evaluating Hopkins's performance -- or lack thereof -- at UW beyond "he's an institutional fit." He'll dig into analysis similar to the one presented in that article, and come to the conclusion that Hopkins tenure at UW is ugly, and disqualifies him from contention. And when that happens, I'm sure that there will be plenty of posters who pound their chests about his recruiting chops, and apply all types of subjective rationalization for why Hop would kill it here "...if only he could hire John Beilien to be his bench coach," all of which will run contradictory to the mountain of quantitative, objective data that indicates that he's potentially one of the least effective coaches at the P5 level.

I'm not anti-anyone -- I'm just being intellectually honest about the quality of the in-house candidates, something you and several others appear congenitally incapable of doing.

Because if we hire Hopkins we'll be signing up for the same level of incredibly bad offensive showcased at UW. And I'm tired of rock fights and one-dimensional play. I want lead guards who push the ball in transition and generate easy scoring opportunities. I want a faster tempo. It really isn't about zone defense at all -- which is another thing the pro-Hopkins crowd is obtusely intellectually dishonest about.

The reality is, by any subjective measurement, Hopkins has done exceedingly poorly the last three years. And it isn't just W/L data that supports that. Hiring him would be a massive, massive mistake -- just like it would have been promoting him to HC years ago, if we'd stuck to the plan.

We'd be seeing much of the same issues / dysfunction that we're seeing at UW -- why? Because he isn't that good of a coach. He's a terrific assistant coach, though. The peter principle applies here.

 

[SUFan44]

Hopkins with a guy like Dave Paulsen might work.

Smart guy, was a head coach for over 20 years. Had a brief stint in Syracuse @ LeMoyne. Got a bit of a raw deal at George Mason.

Ultimately, though, it will come down to getting the next Weaver or Murphy. Need a recruiter badly. Hopkins can and would be much more active than the current head coach, but need an up-and-comer to identify and have the connections necessary.

I mentioned Ashley Howard who was let go by La Salle as HC as a tongue-and-cheek type of option, but someone like him I think would be perfect. Outside the SU family to provide different perspective and has a set area (Philly) that he knows well.

 

[RF2044]

Holy crap this ^^^^^.

There are so many fewer candidates now because coaches salaries are out of control. The SEC and Big have coaches that you are never going to get.

The pool is simply shrunk.

What has happened at Louisville is a shot across the bow. They have a great fan base, amazing facilities, great tradition. They have gone back to the alumni route…because there wasn’t much else out there.

We’re sinking into a competitive disadvantage that eerily feels like football circa 2000.

What's happened at Louisville is due to them facing massive penalties and the uncertainty associated with how extensive / lengthy those penalties will be.

What coach worth their weight in salt would sign up for that?

 

[Toga]

Someone looking at SU from the outside looks at Syracuse as nothing more than a middle of the pack ACC program. This is with a Hall of Fame coach. There’s not a lot of pressure. Being average has been ok since moving to the ACC. So many schools in the east have passed us by since leaving the Big East. You can easily say Villanova, Providence, Seton Hall, UCONN, Iona, and even Colgate has moved passed us. That’s not much pressure to uphold.

But with a new coach who is comfortable and aggressive with the Portal and NIL, he can succeed here. We are in the ACC, have great facilities, a history and perhaps most importantly - Us! We can put 33,000 in the seats like no one else.

 

[Jake]

What's happened at Louisville is due to them facing massive penalties and the uncertainty associated with how extensive / lengthy those penalties will be.

What coach worth their weight in salt would sign up for that?

And what about Maryland? Michigan? North Carolina? Duke?

And so far…the penalties against those offending teams have been hardly crippling.

 

[Fly Rodder]

Who was the dude that was hired to do a search and then … after all the research .. recommended he himself be offered the job ?

That was the Jeopardy! producer.

 

[RF2044]

And what about Maryland? Michigan? North Carolina? Duke?

And so far…the penalties against those offending teams have been hardly crippling.

Duke and North Carolina had incentive to make continuity hires. We don't. It's simple as that.

 

[Alsacs]

And what about Maryland? Michigan? North Carolina? Duke?

And so far…the penalties against those offending teams have been hardly crippling.

Michigan hired an NBA alum over Ed Cooley.
I think their AD kinda got it right. With his final 2.

UNC hired for continuation. They didn’t consider anyone else but Wes Miller who will be their backup if Hubert failed. Hubert kinda turned it around.

Duke hired who K wanted and K earned that.

Syracuse hasn’t been close to the level of any of these 3.
Michigan has been to sweet 16 5 years in a row.
Duke and UNC are looking fine.
Look at Duke’s recruiting next year.

Syracuse is stuck in the mud. The status quo isn’t wanted.

 

[MikeSU02]

Duke and North Carolina had incentive to make continuity hires. We don't. It's simple as that.

This is as clear as day. Duke is on the best run of recruiting since UK was at their apex.

They have gone title, S16, E8, E8, Covid (where they were 25-6), bad year last year, F4, and next year have the #1 recruiting class going away.

It's not even apples and oranges. It's apples and hand grenades.

[Edit: UNC has a top 10 recruiting class and is in the F4]