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My big questions are as follows.

* How are Custis and Eoincy used

* Does Sean Avant have a break out year

* Can Corny live up to his spring and fall hype

* Which guys become the deep threat?

* Does Dunk have a spot?
 
My big questions:

* do we have any receivers on the roster other than Ish / Estime that are good fits in Babers's system?

* if not, what do we do to address this issue?
 
My big questions:

* do we have any receivers on the roster other than Ish / Estime that are good fits in Babers's system?

* if not, what do we do to address this issue?
I think that Avant and Lewis will do well. I also like Custis and Eoincy as they can get off the line and are a huge match up problem for both LB's and DB's
 
I think that Avant and Lewis will do well. I also like Custis and Eoincy as they can get off the line and are a huge match up problem for both LB's and DB's

On paper they are, but that sounds like some of the same things people were saying about Custis / Enoicy prior to last season, and they barely played [with all due respect to Custis, who caught a TD and got looks as a red zone threat several times].

Lewis will be fine. Avant, meh. Not big on Cornelius, either, who was invisible most of last year. I honestly think it is Ish and Estime, Lewis, and then just a bunch of warm bodies--at least on the current roster. Need to upgrade this unit over the next couple of years.
 
The almost total lack of PT for Custis and Eoincy - or at least an explanation of it - is one of the stranger things I've seen in recent SU football history.

I'm sort of surprised that Custis hasn't opted to walk-on to the depleted hoops team by now...unless, and hopefully, he's really focusing his off-seasons on getting better at the Football.
 
My big questions are as follows.

* How are Custis and Eoincy used

* Does Sean Avant have a break out year

* Can Corny live up to his spring and fall hype

* Which guys become the deep threat?

* Does Dunk have a spot?
I cannot see anything from Custis, Avant or Enoicy. 12 combined catches in 5 cumulative seasons (Enoicy did not even play last year) on team with little WR talent and depth does not inspire confidence in the three doing much. Cornelius? Same thing. 18 catches in 3 years despite being on the field a decent amount of time. There is nothing fact-wise to indicate any of these guys are going to break out.

Any JUCO or freshman not signed yet have a great chance to walk in, start and play a lot.
 
I watched 4 or 5 Bowling Green games this year. Lots of short quick passes. WR screens and slants. Then they go over the top. Scheme gets guys open. Our WR’s were running behind coverage a number of times this season but we don’t deliver the football. Syracuse WR’s are more than capable of running the primary BG offense, which also requires smarts and the ability to block.

We obviously lack a true deep threat but that isn’t a guy who just out runs everybody, it’s a physically imposing guy who can outrun everybody. BG’s star wideout is a kid who was a 5 star WR headed to play for Ohio State before some legal trouble sent him to Bowling Green.
 
I watched 4 or 5 Bowling Green games this year. Lots of short quick passes. WR screens and slants. Then they go over the top. Scheme gets guys open. Our WR’s were running behind coverage a number of times this season but we don’t deliver the football. Syracuse WR’s are more than capable of running the primary BG offense, which also requires smarts and the ability to block.

We obviously lack a true deep threat but that isn’t a guy who just out runs everybody, it’s a physically imposing guy who can outrun everybody. BG’s star wideout is a kid who was a 5 star WR headed to play for Ohio State before some legal trouble sent him to Bowling Green.
Phat what role if any do you think that our two bigs can play. I can see Custis and Eoincy getting separation off the line and being a great match up for us on 20 yard and under routes. They sure as heck are not going to be held up at the line by most DB's. We only seemed to run Custis in the redzone and always towards the corner. I would have used him over the middle. Thoughts?
 
Phat what role if any do you think that our two bigs can play. I can see Custis and Eoincy getting separation off the line and being a great match up for us on 20 yard and under routes. They sure as heck are not going to be held up at the line by most DB's. We only seemed to run Custis in the redzone and always towards the corner. I would have used him over the middle. Thoughts?
Our current TE's can't catch, and that is part of the offense, so Custis and Enoicy, plus Trey should help with that.
 
VirginiaOrange said:
I cannot see anything from Custis, Avant or Enoicy. 12 combined catches in 5 cumulative seasons (Enoicy did not even play last year) on team with little WR talent and depth does not inspire confidence in the three doing much. Cornelius? Same thing. 18 catches in 3 years despite being on the field a decent amount of time. There is nothing fact-wise to indicate any of these guys are going to break out. Any JUCO or freshman not signed yet have a great chance to walk in, start and play a lot.

New coach and system = fresh start
 
Phat what role if any do you think that our two bigs can play. I can see Custis and Eoincy getting separation off the line and being a great match up for us on 20 yard and under routes. They sure as heck are not going to be held up at the line by most DB's. We only seemed to run Custis in the redzone and always towards the corner. I would have used him over the middle. Thoughts?

No idea what role they will play because I’ve never seen them play. No idea what their strengths or weakenses are. A few token passes to Custis doesn’t really tell the story.

I like the fact that Babers has told the team everyone starts with a clean slate. So basically there is no depth chart. Players like Custis and Enoicy can start fresh.
 
I cannot see anything from Custis, Avant or Enoicy. 12 combined catches in 5 cumulative seasons (Enoicy did not even play last year) on team with little WR talent and depth does not inspire confidence in the three doing much. Cornelius? Same thing. 18 catches in 3 years despite being on the field a decent amount of time. There is nothing fact-wise to indicate any of these guys are going to break out.

Any JUCO or freshman not signed yet have a great chance to walk in, start and play a lot.

Enoicy redshirted as true frosh and Custis shouldve done the same. Shafer blew a bunch of redshirts. And there's nothing to suggest they won't break out either.
 
Our current TE's can't catch, and that is part of the offense, so Custis and Enoicy, plus Trey should help with that.
Not that big a part of the offense. Bowling Green TEs only accounted for 27 catches for 211 yards and 5 Tds last season.

2015 was 7% of total catches, 4% of total rec yards 11% of total rec tds
2014 was .63% of total catches, .3% of total rec yards and 0% of total rec tds.
 
I know this is wrong but I feel like 27 catches for 211 yards and 5 TDS is what our TE's have done over the past 3 seasons combined.
 
Phat what role if any do you think that our two bigs can play. I can see Custis and Eoincy getting separation off the line and being a great match up for us on 20 yard and under routes. They sure as heck are not going to be held up at the line by most DB's. We only seemed to run Custis in the redzone and always towards the corner. I would have used him over the middle. Thoughts?
I've been wondering if Enoicy was suffering from an unreported injury last season. As a RS scout team player, the staff raved about him.

Did our under-qualified General Practice MD strike again?
 
I've been wondering if Enoicy was suffering from an unreported injury last season. As a RS . . . . . team player, the staff raved about him.

Did our under-qualified General Practice MD strike again?
I've seen no response to why a specialist is not being used. Obviously I have no idea if it is a relevant issue here.
 
Custis looks like he could eat most of the DB's trying to cover him. His hands look like they belong on a bear and the kid just seems like a total stud. I remember Hunt raving about him. Lets hope these kids get some coaching and have a chance to see the field as i think they are a very hard match up
 
kcsu said:
Custis looks like he could eat most of the DB's trying to cover him. His hands look like they belong on a bear and the kid just seems like a total stud. I remember Hunt raving about him. Lets hope these kids get some coaching and have a chance to see the field as i think they are a very hard match up

Yep - change in staff might be a great thing for him. If it's route running or lack of experience - he's about to get a crapton of reps.
 
I like our current talent. However, I question Custis' and enoicy's motor and/or practice skills, because these guys on paper are studs but haven't broke the lineup when we have been in desperate need of big athletes at the reciever position for years. Hopefully, the new staff can light a fire...
 
The almost total lack of PT for Custis and Eoincy - or at least an explanation of it - is one of the stranger things I've seen in recent SU football history.

I'm starting to think they just aren't good enough
 
I'm starting to think they just aren't good enough
Why more people don't think that is beyond me. Maybe they think Shafer and Lester wanted to get fired, so they were not playing their best players.
 
kcsu said:
I think that Avant and Lewis will do well. I also like Custis and Eoincy as they can get off the line and are a huge match up problem for both LB's and DB's

How do you know they can get off the line and are matchup problems? They don't play. They might have measurable a but after 2 years of practices and the coaches don't put them on the field means something. At least in the system and with the playbook under Shafer.
 
The same coaches who started Drew Allen over Hunt 3 years ago and a walk-on Offensive Lineman this year. At least this new offense will offer them an opportunity for more targets than they would've received last year. I'm hoping one of those guys surprises us this season.
 

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