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Yahoo! Sports - SU Hoops has drug violations

Hell, wasn't it weed that got half our team suspended between the end of the BET and the first-round loss to Vermont in 05'?

I didn't know that, but obviously wouldn't be a shocker. Wouldn't that kind of violate the whole notion that SU doesn't follow its policies.

I have blocked as much as I can of the 2005 tournament out of my memory - what exactly happened leading up to it?
 
I know marijuana is illegal and that you have to play by the rules, but if I'm a coach and have to choose between...

(a) my players hanging out in their South campus apartment burning one and playing video games
(b) my players out at a club getting drunk

I choose A every day of the week and twice on Sunday.
 
I know marijuana is illegal and that you have to play by the rules, but if I'm a coach and have to choose between...

(a) my players hanging out in their South campus apartment burning one and playing video games
(b) my players out at a club getting drunk

I choose A every day of the week and twice on Sunday.

1 BILLION percent.
 
I highly doubt this points to lack of institutional control. Im guess that is 10 out of 60 players approximately (roughly - didnt do the math to count how many players since 2001). They specifically left out how many 1 time offenders there were. Failed drug tests are different than being caught with paraph. or actual drugs. They did not specify if this occurred during a specific time period more than any other. This is not lack of institutional control unless it spiraled during a short timeframe and there was no clear improvement. If it was sporadic then I doubt anything becomes of this. I would presume BD was involved to some extent.. but not sure how much. Maybe he still has a relationship with a former player?
 
I'm so upset that I'm going to burn one as soon as I get home.
 
:mad: total smear campaign and someone has been digging for it and I think we all know who, this is why people settle.

Start the "drug" board

You were right this morning. Some real stupid things getting said lately on the board.
 
This goes on everywhere. It's not a big deal.

Agreed; only disagree to say it could be a big deal if we went out of our way to ignore the results of drug tests.

Might also be worth mentioning that we're all assuming it's weed (and with good reason, if there were test failures, I'm sure at least some, if not the vast majority, were for that) but the story doesn't mention weed.

Definitely right it goes on at all schools, and probably right it's not a big deal.
 
Ucla was on the cover of SI and that story us dead already, this will go away even quicker...nothing is worse than the fine scandal and the program is doing well after that fiasco.
 
A lot of people smoke weed. But there are rules. Didn't we just suspend a football player for a year?
 
I'm just waiting for an investigation leading to the conclusion that Jim Brown was recruited illegally.

Not to be the bearer of bad news, but Jim Brown was absolutely illegally recruited - under today's standards.
 
Some good news... This is a Yahoo! Sports article, not ESPN. Therefore, we won't have the story forced down our throats during Championship Week like we all remember the Bernie Fine case was.

Someone suggested that this was the best time for Yahoo! to break this story? I completely disagree. It will easily get lost in all of the Conference Tournament storylines. Is ESPN really going to push a story that broken a rival that isn't really developing? It's not like you will have police or victim press conferences to give the story legs.
 
Agreed; only disagree to say it could be a big deal if we went out of our way to ignore the results of drug tests.

Might also be worth mentioning that we're all assuming it's weed (and with good reason, if there were test failures, I'm sure at least some, if not the vast majority, were for that) but the story doesn't mention weed.

Definitely right it goes on at all schools, and probably right it's not a big deal.
problem is this article goes ahead and assumes the University played players without doing their due diligence.
 
First off if there are no NCAA rules on testing and suspensions, and there aren't even conference wide standards, then isn't the "Willful ignorance" clause essentially mean nothing in this regards?

If the school has their own standards that don't have to be met according to NCAA guidelines then how can the NCAA decide that they were ignoring their own rules, why can't Syracuse just simply say, well we changed our rules to be a case by case basis?

if no NCAA violations occurred how much of an investigation is the NCAA going to do into 5-10 year old allegations from "secret sources"

why print this article?
 
A lot of people smoke weed. But there are rules. Didn't we just suspend a football player for a year?
But do the football and basketball programs have the same policies? As I said before, at some schools this not the case. Some departments basically let each program police itself, so Doug Marrone's policy might be different than Jim Boeheim's.
 
Inner city kids and kids from suberbia smoke weed, report at 11:00. Legalize it and get this crap over with. Or make booze and ciggy's illegal. God the legal system is warpped.
 

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