Yikes

[Orangezoo]

So who is the poster who posed as an ACC coach???

 

[OrangeDW]

Buddy isn’t getting the most attention from defenses this year either, AG is. Guerrier has garnered more attention than last year, too. I don’t think Buddy’s slump is a product of the defense being played against him.

His Freshman and Sophomore stats suggest he is an elite shooter, depending on your definition of elite. At the least, he’s a high level shooter.

Could be noted that Hughes was a much better passer than QG and AG are. When your best player and leading scorer is a good passer, it helps other guys get looks.

If only we had a really good perimeter player who can collapse defenses and pass to get guys better looks...

 

[Brooky03]

Could be noted that Hughes was a much better passer than QG and AG are. When your best player and leading scorer is a good passer, it helps other guys get looks.

If only we had a really good perimeter player who can collapse defenses and pass to get guys better looks...

We do and he plays a bunch

 

[OrangeDW]

We do and he plays a bunch

Playing half of what Buddy plays in conference games. That’s a lot of wasted minutes .

 

[Alsacs]

Buddy isn’t getting the most attention from defenses this year either, AG is. Guerrier has garnered more attention than last year, too. I don’t think Buddy’s slump is a product of the defense being played against him.

His Freshman and Sophomore stats suggest he is an elite shooter, depending on your definition of elite. At the least, he’s a high level shooter.

Elite is 40% or better.

He had a good sophomore season.
He has been featured like he is Kobe.
His usage rate is way too high.

 

[Scooch]

His Freshman and Sophomore stats suggest he is an elite shooter, depending on your definition of elite. At the least, he’s a high level shooter.

I think it's hard to argue that 35% and 37% from three is "elite", when there dozens of players who shoot 40%+.

Buddy has more bad games (under 33% from three) than he does great games (40%+).

He's a streaky shooter who has both a high ceiling, and a low floor.

 

[Brooky03]

Elite is 40% or better.

He had a good sophomore season.
He has been featured like he is Kobe.
His usage rate is way too high.

I think it's hard to argue that 35% and 37% from three is "elite", when there dozens of players who shoot 40%+.

Buddy has more bad games (under 33% from three) than he does great games (40%+).

He's a streaky shooter who has both a high ceiling, and a low floor.

I don’t deny he’s streaky. How many of those 40% shooters have low volume (less than 5 or so attempts) and/or play for midmajors?

Buddy on a midmajor is a 40% shooter and nobody would be able to change my mind about that.

Anyway, it’s semantic. If he’s not elite, he’s still very good.

 

[Briancuse]

So who is the poster who posed as an ACC coach???

I'm really Leonard Hamilton.

 

[Alsacs]

I don’t deny he’s streaky. How many of those 40% shooters have low volume (less than 5 or so attempts) and/or play for midmajors?

Buddy on a midmajor is a 40% shooter and nobody would be able to change my mind about that.

Anyway, it’s semantic. If he’s not elite, he’s still very good.

Over 50 kids in the nation shoot over 40%

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Plenty of high Major players.

Buddy is a good shooter. He might be elite if he was a role player.

 

[Scooch]

I don’t deny he’s streaky. How many of those 40% shooters have low volume (less than 5 or so attempts) and/or play for midmajors?

Buddy on a midmajor is a 40% shooter and nobody would be able to change my mind about that.

Anyway, it’s semantic. If he’s not elite, he’s still very good.

He can be very good, at times. But he has far too many lousy games, and that harms the offense since he takes so. many. shots.

 

[pearl31]

interesting that Cornett (sp?) referred to Buddy as a star of the ACC...

 

[Brooky03]

Over 50 kids in the nation shoot over 40%

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Plenty of high Major players.

Buddy is a good shooter. He might be elite if he was a role player.

He was, conservatively, the 10th best 3-point shooter in the ACC last year. He was arguably the 3rd best, accounting for volume.

I concede he’s not ‘elite’ but he was better than good last year, at least.

 

[Alsacs]

He was, conservatively, the 10th best 3-point shooter in the ACC last year. He was arguably the 3rd best, accounting for volume.

I concede he’s not ‘elite’ but he was better than good last year, at least.

I am not going to argue that point.
Nobody but haters would.
He is a good shooter.

I just think JB’s spacing argument and we need to keep him in when he is struggling because he could make the next one isn’t supported by the numbers.

Steph Curry’s don’t grow on trees.

 

[pearl31]

I'd opine that-
a person's being either disingenuous or obtuse to say having at least two legit 3pt threats on the floor does not space the court for more optimal offense...

 

[Alsacs]

I'd opine that-
a person's being either disingenuous or obtuse to say having at least two legit 3pt threats on the floor does not space the court for more optimal offense...

Griffin can shoot.
JG and BB can split time and we would still have enough shooting for Kadary to play the bulk of the minutes.
JB makes it seem like one player has to play.

 

[721Comstock]

I'd opine that-
a person's being either disingenuous or obtuse to say having at least two legit 3pt threats on the floor does not space the court for more optimal offense...

Well, we've got like 4-5-6 guys who can shoot 3's, and none of them are all that great at actually MAKING 3's, so does it really matter if one more or less 3 point 'shooter' is on the floor at a given time?

Kadary helps our "shooters' become 'MAKERS' - by getting them clean, open looks.

I'd say that's a lot more valuable than one more chucker on the perimeter.

 

[pearl31]

I'm just more addressing the folks who seem to dismiss out of hand JB's statements about the need for spacing-
they're legit statements and it's a legit need

 

[pearl31]

(and notice I didn't say anything about *which* two 3pt threats need to be on the floor?)

 

[EnviroSciGuy]

according to one ACC coach, Syracuse would lose 9 out of 10 times against UVA.

Don't tell the board JB loyalists that, they'll come after said coach with torches and pitchforks.

 

[djcon57]

I'm just more addressing the folks who seem to dismiss out of hand JB's statements about the need for spacing-
they're legit statements and it's a legit need

They are not legit statements when JB uses them in a defense of playing Joe and Buddy together. Its nonsense.

Agreed that having 1-2 shooters for spacing is a valid concept.

 

[phillydad]

I’m old enough to remember when Edelin and Pace were compared to YMCA players as a compliment.

I remember Bilas's comment on Josh was something like, When he's 50 yo playing at the Y he will have the same game.

 

[Cusesky8214]

 

[Cusesky8214]

 

[two3zone]

Enough to make your career 3-point percentage bad. In Buddy’s case, that hasn’t happened yet. In Girard’s case, he’s on the edge but has shown improvement.

You wouldn’t call either a bad shooter.

.330 isn’t a bad shooter?

 

[two3zone]

Yet in another tweet he’s begging for more Kadary minutes, talking out of both sides of his mouth.