Zion

[newmexicuse]

He's played 114 of a possible 328 games. 29 of the last 164 and keeps getting fatter.

20 mpg on someone who was suppose to be a franchise player is crazy for what anyone would have to give up.

You are of course correct in what you say. The idea of my post was to get his feet wet in year one, preserve his health with limited minutes, and gradually build him up for the long term. RF was also correct in his comments about Zion weighing 270. Clearly, part of the process with him would be to figure out the weight he should be playing at and to get him there and keep him there.

This is a young player with mega-talent. You want to see if he can be an Embiid and not a Sam Bowie.

Let's remember, because of his injury history he will be available at a discount relative to his upside, but, of course, for that discount there will be risk that the upside is never obtained.

 

[General20]

Zion to the Knicks for Randle do you make that trade

I wouldn't and I'm struggling to think of another time where you wouldn't trade a younger more talented player for an older less talented player. Oden maybe.

 

[shu 49]

As talented as he is, I wouldn’t want him on my team. Just my thoughts. If ur injury prone but don’t watch ur weight, how much do u care about what u do. Dieting isn’t easy for guys like him but it could be the difference of say 50,000,000 or more. He has had it fairly easy over the years and as everyone knows it’s not always easy. Now is the hard part for him. Suck it up get down to 240 or whatever they want him at and get the big check or don’t and do what ur doing now.

 

[cusefan88]

Some guys don't love basketball and want to put in the work. That's ok. Zion is going to find out how dispensable he is if he doesn't commit himself to improving his health.

 

[hoopsupstate]

Just hire a nutritionist and chef. He can afford it. It depends how important it is for him. It seems like he wants to spend his money on everything else.

 

[Orangezoo]

Just hire a nutritionist and chef. He can afford it. It depends how important it is for him. It seems like he wants to spend his money on everything else.

As I understand it that's been done over multiple times. He won't prioritize it and has contended he was in great shape and done more than what's necessary to be ready. That second contract I fear was awful for all parties especially Zion.

 

[cuseincincy]

As I understand it that's been done over multiple times. He won't prioritize it and has contended he was in great shape and done more than what's necessary to be ready. That second contract I fear was awful for all parties especially Zion.

Teams are their own worst enemy. Way too many NBA players get paid for their potential instead of their production. Zion is the worst kind of temptation because when he plays he is extraordinary and makes those around him better. Personally I'd rather have had Randle the last 4 years.

 

[NineOneSeven]

Still he’s made a ton of money I had thought he was going to be a terrific player in the NBA but he can’t seem to get his weight under control

He is a terrific player, literally all time numbers….. when he plays. Which isn’t nearly enough.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

 

[cuseincincy]

There are people among us that predicted that before he left Durham. He has always been completely lacking the very most important ability for any athlete in any sport.

 

[Orangezoo]

There are people among us that predicted that before he left Durham. He has always been completely lacking the very most important ability for any athlete in any sport.

Yep. There were quite a few of us.

 

[tbonezone]

marek doleją took the Z train and lived to tell about it.

 

[kirbivore]

 

[two3zone]

 

[Zelda Zonk]

marek doleją took the Z train and lived to tell about it.

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After that hit, Marek can’t taste bacon, cant’t remember which day comes after Wednesday, and hears polka in one ear when he’s alone in a quiet room, but other than that… yeah, he’s thriving.

 

[Gotothehole]

Moriah Mills Has Reached New Levels Of Unhinged And Got Zion Williamson's Name Tatted On Her Face

I've seen enough. Moriah Mills might be the greatest to ever do it. Unparalleled work ethic. This reminds me of when Blac Chyna got Future's name tatted on her hand hours after he tweeted "Single & fo...

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[Bayside44]

After that hit, Marek can’t taste bacon, cant’t remember which day comes after Wednesday, and hears polka in one ear when he’s alone in a quiet room, but other than that… yeah, he’s thriving.

He has Long Zion.

 

[OrangeDW]

He has Long Zion.

 

[CardiacCuse]

As talented as he is, I wouldn’t want him on my team. Just my thoughts. If ur injury prone but don’t watch ur weight, how much do u care about what u do. Dieting isn’t easy for guys like him but it could be the difference of say 50,000,000 or more. He has had it fairly easy over the years and as everyone knows it’s not always easy. Now is the hard part for him. Suck it up get down to 240 or whatever they want him at and get the big check or don’t and do what ur doing now.

me neither...i hve the odd feeling that he is taking his first contract off bc he doesnt want to be in a small market and once he gets traded to a big market like new york he will start to take things seriously.

the way the nba structures contracts and the way they move talent around the league seriously distorts the oncourt balance of play imo

 

[atlanticuse]

Moriah Mills Has Reached New Levels Of Unhinged And Got Zion Williamson's Name Tatted On Her Face

I've seen enough. Moriah Mills might be the greatest to ever do it. Unparalleled work ethic. This reminds me of when Blac Chyna got Future's name tatted on her hand hours after he tweeted "Single & fo...

www.barstoolsports.com

he'll just make it go away with more potato chips and ice cream.

 

[orangecuse]

Teams are their own worst enemy. Way too many NBA players get paid for their potential instead of their production. Zion is the worst kind of temptation because when he plays he is extraordinary and makes those around him better. Personally I'd rather have had Randle the last 4 years.

Indeed. Unfortunately, it's generally the current day standard/day in the life of all major professional sports teams and their respective athletes nowadays. I posted a similar sentiment in the NYS NIL thread relative to Francisco Lindor and his 10 year $340 mil contract. Batting .217 (at the time of the post) now in his 3rd season with the Mets and batted .230 his first year with them. Just one of numerous examples that are out there.

These guys getting paid based on potential vs. production is complete lunacy. And, us idiotic fans contributed considerably to this runaway train environment, etc. of the so called "market value" dream world they live and play in.

 

[Capt. Tuttle]

If I’m 22, with all that money, I suspect I had the potential to reset the stupid bar.

Money doesn’t shape character, it reveals it.

 

[dollarbill44]

As I understand it that's been done over multiple times. He won't prioritize it and has contended he was in great shape and done more than what's necessary to be ready. That second contract I fear was awful for all parties especially Zion.

Exactly. It doesn't matter how many people you pay to develop programs for you if you don't want to do the work.

 

[dollarbill44]

Indeed. Unfortunately, it's generally the current day standard/day in the life of all major professional sports teams and their respective athletes nowadays. I posted a similar sentiment in the NYS NIL thread relative to Francisco Lindor and his 10 year $340 mil contract. Batting .217 (at the time of the post) now in his 3rd season with the Mets and batted .230 his first year with them. Just one of numerous examples that are out there.

These guys getting paid based on potential vs. production is complete lunacy. And, us idiotic fans contributed considerably to this runaway train environment, etc. of the so called "market value" dream world they live and play in.

Lindor is a bad example because he was an all-star with Cleveland before the trade with the Mets. Now, if you want to say they should have given him an incentive laden contract, that's a different argument. But, to knock them for paying him only on potential fails to recognize his past performance, which was the basis for his contract. Rookie contracts are speculative by definition.

 

[donniesyracuse]

Indeed. Unfortunately, it's generally the current day standard/day in the life of all major professional sports teams and their respective athletes nowadays. I posted a similar sentiment in the NYS NIL thread relative to Francisco Lindor and his 10 year $340 mil contract. Batting .217 (at the time of the post) now in his 3rd season with the Mets and batted .230 his first year with them. Just one of numerous examples that are out there.

These guys getting paid based on potential vs. production is complete lunacy. And, us idiotic fans contributed considerably to this runaway train environment, etc. of the so called "market value" dream world they live and play in.

Regardless of his batting average, Lindor remains one of the five best shortstops in MLB. Whether that is worth $340 million is certainly debatable, but batting average is a poor indicator of a player's contribution.