2017 Yankees Thread

[donniesyracuse]

Tanaka still fascinates me. Sunday's start was a set back, but he is trending in the right direction. His overall numbers since the beginning of June are not terrible and that includes three very bad starts. At the beginning of the season, it was a foregone conclusion that if the Yankees did not negotiate an extension, Tanaka would opt out of his remaining three years at $22 million/year ($23 million in 2020). Clearly, if Tanaka's second half of the season resembles his first half, he will not opt out. Because the first half was so bad, Tanaka's numbers for the season will not match his career numbers, but if he finishes strong, I think there will be teams that will do better than $67 million over three years. Right now (while his value is low), might be a good time to offer him an extension. It might not seem prudent to commit to him through 2023, but there are no guarantees that any forthcoming free agents or pitching prospects will be better than Tanaka. The UCL injury hasn't been a concern since 2015.

 

[Cowtown]

Still concerned about Betances after watching him last night. First couple batters he looked like he may be past the issues he has had lately, then he proceeded to walk batters again...

I wonder if it's getting into his head now. I'm reminded of Mike Reid (the golfer), wonderful mechanics, terrific numbers for FH and GIR, couldn't make the putts to close the deal. After Payne Stewart beat him in the PGA, he just "faded in to Bolivian."

 

[AirForceOrange]

I wonder if it's getting into his head now. I'm reminded of Mike Reid (the golfer), wonderful mechanics, terrific numbers for FH and GIR, couldn't make the putts to close the deal. After Payne Stewart beat him in the PGA, he just "faded in to Bolivian."

That might explain his weird stats this year that I posted previously...highest K/9 but also a lot of walks and low hits. It's almost like his control comes and goes throughout the ABs and even an individual AB.

 

[KaiserUEO]

That might explain his weird stats this year that I posted previously...highest K/9 but also a lot of walks and low hits. It's almost like his control comes and goes throughout the ABs and even an individual AB.

runners on base.

he doesn't know how to pitch with guys on base, they get in his head.

it didn't work this weekend, but I was telling buddies hes either got to have nobody on...or everybody on.

that way he can just focus on the batter.

 

[donniesyracuse]

runners on base.

he doesn't know how to pitch with guys on base, they get in his head.

it didn't work this weekend, but I was telling buddies hes either got to have nobody on...or everybody on.

that way he can just focus on the batter.

He should just focus on the batter anyway. If he can strike everyone out, nobody is getting past third base (that's assuming Sanchez can stop some of those balls in the dirt).

 

[Alsacs]

What is the Yankees rotation for this Red Sox series?
Boston has
Pomeranz Friday
Sale Saturday
Porcello Sun afternoon
Price Sun night.

 

[KaiserUEO]

What is the Yankees rotation for this Red Sox series?
Boston has
Pomeranz Friday
Sale Saturday
Porcello Sun afternoon
Price Sun night.

Girardi said before the break that he wouldn't make up his mind till later in the week, based on if Severino pitched.

he didn't.

expect it announced on Francesa tomorrow at 5, but likely leaked to the twitter earlier because Mike is 'chasing the sun'.

only guarantee is Monty sometime on sunday.

my guess is now

Sevy
Tanaka
CC & Monty
Pineda

 

[donniesyracuse]

my guess is now

Sevy
Tanaka
CC & Monty
Pineda

That is a good guess. I think OrangeXtreme is right about Cessa pitching on Tuesday.

 

[Alsacs]

Girardi said before the break that he wouldn't make up his mind till later in the week, based on if Severino pitched.

he didn't.

expect it announced on Francesa tomorrow at 5, but likely leaked to the twitter earlier because Mike is 'chasing the sun'.

only guarantee is Monty sometime on sunday.

my guess is now

Sevy
Tanaka
CC & Monty
Pineda

I just want to split of the 4 game series .
I think the Red Sox have the better team because of SP but the Sox match up poorly with the Yankees this year.

 

[donniesyracuse]

I assume the forthcoming transactions will be:

Holiday and Castro off of DL - Refsnyder and Wade go down

Montgomery is 26th man on Sunday

 

[Alsacs]

Yankees have the prospects to trade for Quintana and Robertson:

If Cashman will move some decent prospects they could get these 2.
Quintana has a good contract as well and wouldn't be a rental.

With Judge, Frazier, Sanchez and the kid who had Tommy John that is your young core. Moving other good prospects shouldn't be stopped. Quintana and Robertson might put them over Boston.

 

[donniesyracuse]

Yankees have the prospects to trade for Quintana and Robertson:
If Cashman will move some decent prospects they could get these 2.
Quintana has a good contract as well and wouldn't be a rental.

Pass, the White Sox will want everything

 

[Alsacs]

Pass, the White Sox will want everything

What is everything?
You gotta give up something to get something quality.

 

[donniesyracuse]

What is everything?
You gotta give up something to get something quality.

I don't need to win the World Series this year.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

What is everything?
You gotta give up something to get something quality.

Frazier and Torres for Quintana

 

[KaiserUEO]

Frazier and Torres for Quintana

thankfully, Phil Jackson and Steve Mills...are not running the Yankees.

 

[donniesyracuse]

There is some version of David Robertson available every year in free agency. I see no reason to give up prospects for him. The Yankee bullpen has been a disaster lately, but I think some combination of Chapman, Betances, Green, Clippard, and Warren can straighten it out.

I would love to have Jose Quintana, but I would not give up any major assets to get him just so the Yankees may or may not be better than the Red Sox this year. My hope is that the Yankees plan to be competitive for an extended period of time. At some point it might be prudent to give up prospects for big piece, but I don't think this is the time.

 

[KaiserUEO]

There is some version of David Robertson available every year in free agency. I see no reason to give up prospects for him. The Yankee bullpen has been a disaster lately, but I think some combination of Chapman, Betances, Green, Clippard, and Warren can straighten it out.

I would love to have Jose Quintana, but I would not give up any major assets to get him just so the Yankees may or may not be better than the Red Sox this year. My hope is that the Yankees plan to be competitive for an extended period of time. At some point it might be prudent to give up prospects for big piece, but I don't think this is the time.

agree.

they need too much, need too much to go right...and too much to stay out of this world (cough, Judge, cough) to give the farm to try to catch the sux and thus escape the 27 Yankees...I mean Astros.

lets just make the WC game, win that...and when we are leaving town...ride out on the coolest and LOUDEST Hogs we can find so when we come riding back next april..everyone will remember the noise and know who the phluck is coming and be rightfully afraid.

and then dispose of those behind us, starting with the sux and ending with everyone else...

 

[Noexcuse]

Yankees have the prospects to trade for Quintana and Robertson:

If Cashman will move some decent prospects they could get these 2.
Quintana has a good contract as well and wouldn't be a rental.

With Judge, Frazier, Sanchez and the kid who had Tommy John that is your young core. Moving other good prospects shouldn't be stopped. Quintana and Robertson might put them over Boston.

Add DiDi and Castro to that core. And hope for the best with Bird (He tore up Spring Training).

 

[Briancuse]

I don't need to win the World Series this year.

Your not going to regardless of what moves you make.

 

[donniesyracuse]

Your not going to regardless of what moves you make.

Okay great

 

[Briancuse]

Okay great

Im not trying to be a jerk, but the Yankees are a couple years away, need more pitching.

 

[br801]

Your not going to regardless of what moves you make.

Of course, Mr. Met. Like more unlikely things have never happened in the history of baseball.

 

[Briancuse]

Of course, Mr. Met. Like more unlikely things have never happened in the history of baseball.

It would be with the Yankees pitching staff, you really think they are a legit contender?

 

[br801]

It would be with the Yankees pitching staff, you really think they are a legit contender?

When things were humming along the way they were for the first two months of the season, sure. That wasn't a mirage, that was 50+ games. They were bludgeoning teams, and merely needed to get to the seventh inning with a lead. A lot has gone wrong since, but it could be reproduced.