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Duke, Maryland, ND, JHU, OSU, Denver n even UVA finding ways

At least Cuse has had a better offseason than Yale or Princeton.
 

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I have to imagine Duke has a chemistry issue on this team. Guys that started last year won’t this year. Their Coach is basically saying my team isn’t good enough I’m going to bring in a whole new one. I think there is something to be said for chemistry. I know we had to bring in some defense and the one guys brother will be on the team so that helps. I think it would be best to stop here. The best teams are talented for sure, but what usually makes a great team is a bunch of guys who love to play together. We have that now, I don’t want to risk that for a fringe offensive starter.
 

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I have to imagine Duke has a chemistry issue on this team. Guys that started last year won’t this year. Their Coach is basically saying my team isn’t good enough I’m going to bring in a whole new one. I think there is something to be said for chemistry. I know we had to bring in some defense and the one guys brother will be on the team so that helps. I think it would be best to stop here. The best teams are talented for sure, but what usually makes a great team is a bunch of guys who love to play together. We have that now, I don’t want to risk that for a fringe offensive starter.
Disagree. He has done well with a loaded roster of talent before. They all seem like good character kids, as well.
 

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Did the Kims and the other Cuse guys in the portal find new schools yet? Besides Fernandez, obviously.
 

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I have to imagine Duke has a chemistry issue on this team. Guys that started last year won’t this year. Their Coach is basically saying my team isn’t good enough I’m going to bring in a whole new one. I think there is something to be said for chemistry. I know we had to bring in some defense and the one guys brother will be on the team so that helps. I think it would be best to stop here. The best teams are talented for sure, but what usually makes a great team is a bunch of guys who love to play together. We have that now, I don’t want to risk that for a fringe offensive starter.
It is certainly a balancing act. Not sure what Duke's plan is for next year, but it should be interesting. Obviously any team would take Sowers, but the Robertson addition is a bit head scratching, unless he is fine just to hang out with his brother and former teammate for a year. Didn't watch any Blue Devil games last year, but think their attack was Williams, Basile and Manown? With Carpenter rotating in? And now they add FOUR more starting level attackmen to the equation. Joe Robertson returns from injury, but still. Maybe Manown and Carpenter weren't going to come back, but not sure how they see the field after this.

I think things might look like this - starters are J. Robertson, Sowers and Williams, with O'Neill as a midfielder, and P. Robertson on man-up? Still not sure where that leaves Basile, not to mention Manown and Carpenter. The midfield is stacked as well with Montgomery, Ledmon, Badour and Caputo. Yikes. One point - besides O'Neill they don't bring in any other attackmen as freshmen, and only have two committed the following year (one ranked 59 in IL, the other not-ranked). So maybe Danowksi doesn't see an impact on recruiting?

Transfers are a tough thing, there are certainly no brainers that SU has taken over the years, Scanlan obviously comes to mind, but I think its up to the coach to decide if he thinks the team can accept a new player. It's kind of strange to slam the door on offensive transfers right now, seeing how many players SU have in the transfer portal right now. But Desko has a full recruiting class coming in the fall and the transfers might be a good thing in the long run, as it helps him pair down the roster to be more manageable, with the seniors returning. Sundown, Dickson and Yorke still intrigue me, but I can see Desko shying away right now. Guess it depends on how much faith he has in players to replace Lipka.
 

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Firepower of Duke and some other top contenders has been strengthened by top ten grad transers, bit envious and frustrated that some teams that were behind Cuse in 2020 have likely leapfrogged them.

Danowski is saying the future is now. Same with Tillman. Cuse has shown restraint , made pitch to Sowers but now riding on best of show from Refhus, Hiltz and Cook. Temptations to upgrade firepower are still out there but believe only Teat becoming available would make Cuse reconsider the path they have chosen.
 

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It is certainly a balancing act. Not sure what Duke's plan is for next year, but it should be interesting. Obviously any team would take Sowers, but the Robertson addition is a bit head scratching, unless he is fine just to hang out with his brother and former teammate for a year. Didn't watch any Blue Devil games last year, but think their attack was Williams, Basile and Manown? With Carpenter rotating in? And now they add FOUR more starting level attackmen to the equation. Joe Robertson returns from injury, but still. Maybe Manown and Carpenter weren't going to come back, but not sure how they see the field after this.

I think things might look like this - starters are J. Robertson, Sowers and Williams, with O'Neill as a midfielder, and P. Robertson on man-up? Still not sure where that leaves Basile, not to mention Manown and Carpenter. The midfield is stacked as well with Montgomery, Ledmon, Badour and Caputo. Yikes. One point - besides O'Neill they don't bring in any other attackmen as freshmen, and only have two committed the following year (one ranked 59 in IL, the other not-ranked). So maybe Danowksi doesn't see an impact on recruiting?

Transfers are a tough thing, there are certainly no brainers that SU has taken over the years, Scanlan obviously comes to mind, but I think its up to the coach to decide if he thinks the team can accept a new player. It's kind of strange to slam the door on offensive transfers right now, seeing how many players SU have in the transfer portal right now. But Desko has a full recruiting class coming in the fall and the transfers might be a good thing in the long run, as it helps him pair down the roster to be more manageable, with the seniors returning. Sundown, Dickson and Yorke still intrigue me, but I can see Desko shying away right now. Guess it depends on how much faith he has in players to replace Lipka.
You make good points but do any of those 3 ( I personally haven’t seen any of their games ) make more sense than the players we have? My thoughts are this Desko is going to play the best midfield line in the country 75% of the time. Our second line has a really good player in Buttemore and after him young interesting options. Then our attack has Hiltz coming in to most likely start. In my opinion Sowers and the kid from Yale move the needle. Admittedly I have watched many of their games and none of the 3 you mentioned. So do any of those 3 move the needle or are we risking chemistry and taking PT away from Hiltz / Rice or a second line middie for guys that won’t have a big impact on our season next year and the future. The Culver kids our future. We forget we were the best team last year and almost everyone is back. I just think develop the guys we have, cuz they’re good players.
 

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That's unfortunately a excellent addition by ND that fortifies their attack.

Not sure if graduating Willets is returning or not but either way Corrigan now has a strong attack with Kavanaugh, Yorke, Westlin and Morin with Taylor in wait.

no longer 5th of 5
 

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Did the Kims and the other Cuse guys in the portal find new schools yet? Besides Fernandez, obviously.
I hear the Kims are heading to Rutgers ..haven’t heard about Lipka but rumored to be looking at Georgetown ..no word on Strang or Nelson
 

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I hear the Kims are heading to Rutgers ..haven’t heard about Lipka but rumored to be looking at Georgetown ..no word on Strang or Nelson
Always thought Rutty was where they would end up. To bad, good players but just ran into some ridiculous depth here. As IT said its really to bad
 

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Lipka is looking at Georgetown and I would not be surprised if he looks at Hopkins as well given the local connection and fact they could use another contributor at the midfield. I suspect he won't be back at Syracuse.

Tough seeing rivals JHU, ND, Duke doing so well with the portal (rumor is JHU is adding Szuluk in addition to Kirson), though can take some solace in the fact that North Carolina hasn't done anything. Also while Virginia added Bertrand I think he's a slight downgrade from Kraus so not really sure they've made their team better.
 

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Lipka is looking at Georgetown and I would not be surprised if he looks at Hopkins as well given the local connection and fact they could use another contributor at the midfield. I suspect he won't be back at Syracuse.

Tough seeing rivals JHU, ND, Duke doing so well with the portal (rumor is JHU is adding Szuluk in addition to Kirson), though can take some solace in the fact that North Carolina hasn't done anything. Also while Virginia added Bertrand I think he's a slight downgrade from Kraus so not really sure they've made their team better.
I don’t disagree, it has been a bit frustrating to see other teams load up. I will say, those teams listed needed those players - yes even Duke, they were not a top five team this year - and Syracuse just doesn’t have many spots open. I think it says a whole lot that Lipka is SU’s fifth best midfielder and he becomes Hopkins best. Like you said UVA was only able to offer Bertrand because Krause left.

Maybe the excitement of getting those seniors back has worn off a bit, and in any sport it always seems more exciting to add players in draft or free agency, but it’s important to remember how important it was that those players came back. Chemistry will also be huge. I wish they could have added a more sure thing defender, but all things considered SU is still really stacked with talent.
 

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Bit envious but in my eyes Duke and ND importing multiple top 5th yr players will cheapen whatever they accomplish.

Sowers is a generational talent that none should bypass but smh at Danowski and Duke going above and beyond since top recruits beat at their doors to get in.

JHU has at least added transfers with years of eligibility.

Wanted Cuse to return their own first and foremost along with pursuing Sowers or Teat if available but also hoped they'd supplement with a established top tier talent .

Have slowly come around to Shokolov viewpoint. Simply cleaner and healthier for programs not to bring in 'one and done" especially when much is still up in the air.

Duke is loaded and should be prohibitive favorite. Look forward to playing them.
 

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Agree with comments by Powellfan and ivorytower. The only thing I would add is that I know Cuse made their best bid for Sowers and they may well have tried for one or two more - it's hard to compete academically with Duke, ND and Hopkins grad schools. No matter how highly ranked Newhouse and Maxwell are (and they are), the focus for most of the players is business schools and schools named Duke, Hop and ND look better on a kid's resume. Too many kids are going to business schools in my opinion but that's probably their parents' fault ha ha
 

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