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We got a very capable transfer at the only position where we truly needed it. I have no problem with that being the only guy we bring in if our attempts are truly over. Still pretty much the only guys I am bummed we couldn't land are Sowers, Morill, and maybe Griffin Brown. Everyone else who has been in the portal just doesn't strike me as a guaranteed game changer given the guys we already have.
It will be interesting to see where Wykoff ends up playing. I would like for SU to bring in a defensemen that would let Kennedy move back to LSM, but given the talent out there it doesn't seem like that player exists. Best fit would be Rapine, but again he has a lot of question marks. Syracuse has a lot of options here, but no sure things and the number of really good attackmen they will face is pretty daunting. I can't see Wykoff replacing Kennedy at this point, I think he's most likely a LSM or secondary defender (still starting, but unsure where that leaves Murphy/DiPietro).

I also wouldn't mind some more offense, but like Jeremey points out its hard to recruit to the second line midfield. The only thing that might work in SU's favor is that a lot of other teams won't have many openings either. Sundown would be an exciting addition, but, given the names available, I wouldn't risk keeping Hiltz off the field for anyone, as it will already be hard enough given the fact SU is returning all their starters.
 

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PSU having a good week, moving on from Ament departing and Sowers choosing Duke .Costin a local, very good frosh mf with four years of eligibility and PSU picked up two highly ranked 21 JHU decommits. Would think they would seek some defensive help with Wright likely headied to MLL. Won't be surprised to see Rapine or Fedorjaka land there
 

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PSU having a good week, moving on from Ament departing and Sowers choosing Duke .Costin a local, very good frosh mf with four years of eligibility and PSU picked up two highly ranked 21 JHU decommits. Would think they would seek some defensive help with Wright likely headied to MLL. Won't be surprised to see Rapine or Fedorjaka land there
The ability to offer in-state tuition is a great thing. If I was Desko or Wildhack, I'd be screaming at the NCAA to find a way to level the value of scholarships and tuition. SU's at a real disadvantage in this regard.

UVA, PSU, Maryland, UMASS, Towson, UNC, etc. can all offer in-state recruits low tuition. Duke, JHU, UND, the Ivies, all heavily discount tuition on the basis of need. Syracuse is one of the few schools stuck in tuition purgatory.
 

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The ability to offer in-state tuition is a great thing. If I was Desko or Wildhack, I'd be screaming at the NCAA to find a way to level the value of scholarships and tuition. SU's at a real disadvantage in this regard.

UVA, PSU, Maryland, UMASS, Towson, UNC, etc. can all offer in-state recruits low tuition. Duke, JHU, UND, the Ivies, all heavily discount tuition on the basis of need. Syracuse is one of the few schools stuck in tuition purgatory.
You should see what UAlbany charges in-state residents.
 

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The ability to offer in-state tuition is a great thing. If I was Desko or Wildhack, I'd be screaming at the NCAA to find a way to level the value of scholarships and tuition. SU's at a real disadvantage in this regard.

UVA, PSU, Maryland, UMASS, Towson, UNC, etc. can all offer in-state recruits low tuition. Duke, JHU, UND, the Ivies, all heavily discount tuition on the basis of need. Syracuse is one of the few schools stuck in tuition purgatory.
It's too bad ESF students can't participate on SU teams. I assume their tuition is a lot lower because it is NYS-affiliated. Cornell has several NYS-affiliated colleges, such as Agriculture & Life Sciences, and they can participate on Cornell teams while paying lower NYS tuition rates. I wonder if there is any way for SU to change that relationship to the Cornell setup.
 

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You should see what UAlbany charges in-state residents.
LOL exactly. SU's tuition will also be somewhat of a hinderance especially for roll type players. That being said, UVA, Duke, ND, Yale and others aren't exactly free.
 

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LOL exactly. SU's tuition will also be somewhat of a hinderance especially for roll type players. That being said, UVA, Duke, ND, Yale and others aren't exactly free.
Princeton, for example, has free tuition for students whose parents make less than $120k per, and then there is a sliding scale beyond that. For a kid like Sowers, whose parents are both teachers in PA, i bet they are pretty close to that threshold. Even if his tuition came to $20k, if he get a 1/2 scholly, $10k per year for Princeton is a pretty sweet deal.

I get that pretty much all of those schools have tougher admissions standards then SU so there is a bit of a trade off.

You should see what UAlbany charges in-state residents.
Oh, I'm aware (I live about 5 minutes from campus and will probably be fishing there on Saturday :)). Makes you wonder why Stony Brook isnt more of a player, given they are located in the most fertile recruiting ground in the Country. NY's lack of a true flagship probably hurts all three of Bingo, Albany, and SB.
 

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The coach said they’ve heard Teat might not be returning to Cornell and it was worth a shot.
 

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Dont think so. He submitted his name into the portal for college teams. Think his draft pick reflects more on his ability to compete in that league than anything else. Cuse may have inquired early but been one of many. Rapine is established , he will play somewhere.
 

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Dont think so. He submitted his name into the portal for college teams. Think his draft pick reflects more on his ability to compete in that league than anything else. Cuse may have inquired early but been one of many. Rapine is established , he will play somewhere.
Right, but PLL made it clear that if you went back to college this year, a team that drafted you this year would not retain your rights, so it would be a wasted pick. Maybe a team decided he was worth the risk since his status is up in the air? His teammate Hubler was also picked and believe he also entered his name in the portal. Strange process overall as only two players committed to playing in PLL before the draft.
 

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Right, but PLL made it clear that if you went back to college this year, a team that drafted you this year would not retain your rights, so it would be a wasted pick. Maybe a team decided he was worth the risk since his status is up in the air? His teammate Hubler was also picked and believe he also entered his name in the portal. Strange process overall as only two players committed to playing in PLL before the draft.
Yep.Unusual year. Some players would never have been drafted by MLL and PLL in other years but were high draft picks because they signaled they were ready to move on backed by knowledge that they had limited options. That is why I labeled these drafts farcial. Next year will be loaded with available 5 year talent that no longer have the option of returning to college
 

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Ha ha
No matter how you spell it, I agree with you - the drafts were wonky. If there had been clear rules and timing around declaring, transfer portal etc. it might have been better but everyone was trying to figure it out on the fly and doing the best they could. Delaying the drafts for a few more weeks would probably have made more sense given pro seasons pushed out.
 

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The ability to offer in-state tuition is a great thing. If I was Desko or Wildhack, I'd be screaming at the NCAA to find a way to level the value of scholarships and tuition. SU's at a real disadvantage in this regard.

UVA, PSU, Maryland, UMASS, Towson, UNC, etc. can all offer in-state recruits low tuition. Duke, JHU, UND, the Ivies, all heavily discount tuition on the basis of need. Syracuse is one of the few schools stuck in tuition purgatory.
UVa has 6 Virginians on the roster, the most noteworthy are Shellenberger, Lamb (SSDM), and Brugel (FOGO). Two are from C'ville and the other four are from the DC suburbs. That said, there have been allegations in the past (mostly from JHU fans) that UVa is playing fast and loose with the definition of in-state for non-rev athletes.
 

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UVa has 6 Virginians on the roster, the most noteworthy are Shellenberger, Lamb (SSDM), and Brugel (FOGO). Two are from C'ville and the other four are from the DC suburbs. That said, there have been allegations in the past (mostly from JHU fans) that UVa is playing fast and loose with the definition of in-state for non-rev athletes.
It has always seemed a little curious to me that UVa doesn't dominate Northern Virginia more. I know Starsia had a few fall ball scrimmages up in NOVA near the end of his reign.
 

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It has always seemed a little curious to me that UVa doesn't dominate Northern Virginia more. I know Starsia had a few fall ball scrimmages up in NOVA near the end of his reign.
Agree. UVA is academic bargain at just 17k in state. Location wise, U of Maryland is about hour and half closer , likely factored into Brown transfer who hails from Arlington, Va. . Also believe Maryland has another three on roster from that general VA vicinity. Their tuition is 35k for out of state
 

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It has always seemed a little curious to me that UVa doesn't dominate Northern Virginia more. I know Starsia had a few fall ball scrimmages up in NOVA near the end of his reign.
Recruiting philosophy has always been an absolute mystery to me. Fortunately, it seems like our football and lacrosse coaches are giving more attention to the DC area.
 

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Recruiting philosophy has always been an absolute mystery to me. Fortunately, it seems like our football and lacrosse coaches are giving more attention to the DC area.
I see UVa does have a top guy, #25 recruit Ben Wayer from SSSA in NoVa, coming in this Fall, but no one from NoVa or DC in the 2021 class.
I guess one of the weaknesses of Tiffany is that he is more of a Northern guy, and it might take him a while to tap into the DC area.
The resumption of the UMd-UVa match-ups could be a help there. With decent weather you can get a large crowd in Byrd for a UMd-UVa game, a lot of the crowd being high school kids.
 

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