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Archimedes said:
I wouldn't knock fans for being disappointed. Right now, hard core fans I know think A LOT of SU football. Nothing wrong with that. It comes from confidence and belief in what's happening on the Hill. People just want a bowl game to match that.
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No issue with people being disappointed, but some of this crap... is ... amazing!

The Holiday Bowl has a reputation for fun, high-scoring games. Like a 50 year+ reputation.

It is historically a more prestigious bowl than the Gator. Times may have changed, but that is the general national perception. (evidenced by the fact that it pays more)

People saying 'it's the opponent, it's the opponent', I doubt they'd want to play Michigan at Fenway or Yankee Stadium if that was our option.

The idea that Wildhack had any control over this process, and should be criticized, is ridiculous.

That Kyle and the other potential pro Sr.s would rather play in a physical tussle vs. FL than in another Holiday Bowl shootout - why would that be? What would be the better exhibition of his arm?

This bowl game (outside of the playoffs) is an exhibition game, the start of practice for next season, and an end-of-season reward for the players. I can think of no better place to accomplish these things - regardless of opponent.

Finally - as people have said.. anyone care to make a wager as to whether the Holiday or Gator gets better viewership #'s? If the Gator is SO much more prestigious - why would this be?
 
djorange1989 said:
As was posted above, the dumb tie in with PAC 2 for a bowl like this is so stupid and what hurts at the end of the day. No way the PAC 2 should have had a potential tie in with this bowl. It’s an excellent bowl and we deserve that, Washington State does not
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The contract was for the ACC and PAC 12 to supply the teams. When the PAC 12 split up, the contract continued to extend to the teams in the PAC 12 when it broke up.

When the contract expires (believe they all expire in. 2025 or 2026), someone else will take the place of the old PAC 12. My guess is it will be the B1G. Pretty sure the ACC will stay with this bowl. It makes a lot of sense, especially with Cal and Stanford in the fold.
 
I am flat out upset because I wanted to go to a Florida bowl game , preferably the Gator as I would have no problem getting time off and affording the airfare.
We have had precious little opportunities to go to a good bowl in 20 plus years.
I feel like I have been waiting forever to get a January bowl experience.
It just feels like Duke and the ACC just pissed on us SU fans once again.
To have a great win against Miami, to finish 9-3 and be given a team that didn’t get a single vote in the latest poll and who lost their last three games to teams with losing records, it just flat out feels we have been slapped in the face.
Just my thoughts.
 
Irishsecra1 said:
I am flat out upset because I wanted to go to a Florida bowl game , preferably the Gator as I would have no problem getting time off and affording the airfare.
We have had precious little opportunities to go to a good bowl in 20 plus years.
I feel like I have been waiting forever to get a January bowl experience.
It just feels like Duke and the ACC just pissed on us SU fans once again.
To have a great win against Miami, to finish 9-3 and be given a team that didn’t get a single vote in the latest poll and who lost their last three games to teams with losing records, it just flat out feels we have been slapped in the face.
Just my thoughts.
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I 144% agree with you.

This is like an adult getting stuck at the kiddie table for Thanksgiving.

Along with WAZZU, who’s like that weird uncle nobody wants to sit near or talk to.
 
Irishsecra1 said:
I am flat out upset because I wanted to go to a Florida bowl game , preferably the Gator as I would have no problem getting time off and affording the airfare.
We have had precious little opportunities to go to a good bowl in 20 plus years.
I feel like I have been waiting forever to get a January bowl experience.
It just feels like Duke and the ACC just pissed on us SU fans once again.
To have a great win against Miami, to finish 9-3 and be given a team that didn’t get a single vote in the latest poll and who lost their last three games to teams with losing records, it just flat out feels we have been slapped in the face.
Just my thoughts.
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I'm not following the logic.

I get that you've wanted to attend a good bowl in FL for years.
I get that your aim has been thwarted, and that stinks.
What I don't get is how that equates to Syracuse University football being screwed
 
This team is going to be spending Christmas on the west coast to play an unranked team from a two team division. It does seem like we got the short end of the stick. Glad for the players that get a free trip out of it, but I would rather play in Florida vs another ranked team.
 
Phillymoose said:
I'm not following the logic.

I get that you've wanted to attend a good bowl in FL for years.
I get that your aim has been thwarted, and that stinks.
What I don't get is how that equates to Syracuse University football being screwed
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By being put in a bowl with Washington State who frankly is only here because they are the only survivor of their busted league who is bowl eligible
They played a cream puff schedule and frankly is not worthy of the stature this bowl used to be.
And SU is also being screwed by sending us to the west coast for the third time this year.

The irony is before the PAC whatever imploded this was a top tier bowl who supplied fantastic PAC matchups. That we finally get this bowl for the first time only to get the winner of a 2 team pretender conference only makes the frustration worse.
 
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Phillymoose said:
No issue with people being disappointed, but some of this crap... is ... amazing!

The Holiday Bowl has a reputation for fun, high-scoring games. Like a 50 year+ reputation.

It is historically a more prestigious bowl than the Gator. Times may have changed, but that is the general national perception. (evidenced by the fact that it pays more)

People saying 'it's the opponent, it's the opponent', I doubt they'd want to play Michigan at Fenway or Yankee Stadium if that was our option.

The idea that Wildhack had any control over this process, and should be criticized, is ridiculous.

That Kyle and the other potential pro Sr.s would rather play in a physical tussle vs. FL than in another Holiday Bowl shootout - why would that be? What would be the better exhibition of his arm?

This bowl game (outside of the playoffs) is an exhibition game, the start of practice for next season, and an end-of-season reward for the players. I can think of no better place to accomplish these things - regardless of opponent.

Finally - as people have said.. anyone care to make a wager as to whether the Holiday or Gator gets better viewership #'s? If the Gator is SO much more prestigious - why would this be?
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yeah, no... Washington State sucks and playing the sucks. There isnt a chance in hell kyle plays this bowl game. This is the definition of a useless exhibition. Maybe if they had actually beaten someone of note Kyle would be given the chance to prove something but when your best win is a pretty average texas tech team, i dont think the scouts watch that game and say "wow kyle sure is impressive."
 
Blanko97 said:
yeah, no... Washington State sucks and playing the sucks. There isnt a chance in hell kyle plays this bowl game. This is the definition of a useless exhibition. Maybe if they had actually beaten someone of note Kyle would be given the chance to prove something but when your best win is a pretty average texas tech team, i dont think the scouts watch that game and say "wow kyle sure is impressive."
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Are you talking about a different Kyle than McCord? We didn't play Texas Tech, our best win was Miami, and then UNLV.
 
All4SU said:
I don’t think anyone is saying that. I think people are just disappointed that SU seems to get the short (dirty) end of the stick from the ACC every time. Give people a chance to express that fir a day or so, and then it will be full steam ahead again.
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Fair enough.
Just seems a little short-sighted to think we 'shoulda/woulda/coulda' gotten a bigger, "better" bowl at this stage. I remember being a student on the yard when Coach Mac took SU to its first Bowl in years- something called the Cherry Bowl. Most fans were beyond happy to get to any bowl after the drought of the Frank Maloney era, and sure enough that started the SU resurgence that lasted till Pasqualoni.
Fact is when we start winning consistently, they'll have to give us our props. This isn't a sprint, its a marathon. JMHO
 
The board was upset last week because they thought we were going to get stuck in the cold. The players ( most importantly) are getting a great location and a bowl with an excellent rep. Yea I would have preferred Jacksonville but I’m Ok with this .
 
Phillymoose said:
I get that people wanted to go to FL and are disappointed. I honestly do.
Blaming Wildhack and ranting about how SU got screwed does not follow.
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Who's blaming Wildhack?

If there were shenanigans on this, it was likely in the Charlotte ACC offices...

It may be that there were no shenanigans and the appearance that we got jobbed is just a coincidence and there is no conspiracy...

...and unranked Dook was more deserving of the Gator Bowl vs #15 Ol Miss in FLA over us

...and that we deserve a 5k mile flight to play an unranked Pac12 leftover no one wanted...

...Or maybe unranked Dook should be playing unranked Wazzu and there were shenanigans??

It's not like we'd be a light fanbase travel risk in Florida...

Who knows?
 
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Phillymoose said:
No issue with people being disappointed, but some of this crap... is ... amazing!

The Holiday Bowl has a reputation for fun, high-scoring games. Like a 50 year+ reputation.

It is historically a more prestigious bowl than the Gator. Times may have changed, but that is the general national perception. (evidenced by the fact that it pays more)

People saying 'it's the opponent, it's the opponent', I doubt they'd want to play Michigan at Fenway or Yankee Stadium if that was our option.

The idea that Wildhack had any control over this process, and should be criticized, is ridiculous.

That Kyle and the other potential pro Sr.s would rather play in a physical tussle vs. FL than in another Holiday Bowl shootout - why would that be? What would be the better exhibition of his arm?

This bowl game (outside of the playoffs) is an exhibition game, the start of practice for next season, and an end-of-season reward for the players. I can think of no better place to accomplish these things - regardless of opponent.

Finally - as people have said.. anyone care to make a wager as to whether the Holiday or Gator gets better viewership #'s? If the Gator is SO much more prestigious - why would this be?
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Well said!
 

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