ACC, PAC-12, and BIG alliance / conference realignment

[Scotch]

I think your underestimating the teams that the Big 12 added.

If the SEC and B1G had to draft the remaining B12 and ACC schools, the first 5 picks would be ACC schools (at minimum).

 

[dasher]

I think your underestimating the teams that the Big 12 added.

He isn't. As usual, you are mistaking the value of some schools.

 

[suorange08]

And maybe even win the conference once in awhile.

Yeah that's UCF's to lose nearly every year

 

[OrangeXtreme]

 

[Chris02M]

If the SEC and B1G had to draft the remaining B12 and ACC schools, the first 5 picks would be ACC schools (at minimum).

If the SEC and B1G had to draft the remaining B12 and ACC schools, the first 5 picks would be ACC schools (at minimum).

probably closer to 10

 

[NineOneSeven]

This is so dumb. And sad.

 

[All4SU]

The PAC was positioned to put the Big12 out of business. They failed to take any action. Now they are the ones in the trunk of the car.

 

[javadoc]

College football needs the equivalent of a non-partisan citizens’ redistricting commission.

 

[CousCuse]

He isn't. As usual, you are mistaking the value of some schools.

Which school out of 8 do you think is a weak addition? would the SEC offer to take 8 ACC schools? Doubtful.

 

[CU44SE]

Not sure if the Big 12 made itself better than the ACC. The ACC’s top is still much better. However, the gap shrunk when you look at the collective sum. Either way. The ACC did not help itself once again and has allowed another conference to close the gap. Meanwhile, being left even farther behind the top 2.

 

[qdawgg]

Yeah that's UCF's to lose nearly every year

That’s maybe one of the most accurate posts in the last 10 pages. My posts included lol

 

[dasher]

Which school out of 8 do you think is a weak addition? would the SEC offer to take 8 ACC schools? Doubtful.

The SEC didn't offer any of those 8. What are you talking about? What schools in the big 12 have more value than UNC? Clemson? FSU? Miami?

 

[qdawgg]

Which school out of 8 do you think is a weak addition? would the SEC offer to take 8 ACC schools? Doubtful.

They wouldn’t take any of the current B12 schools (current as of 1 minute ago) or they would have already. So just based on that, the ACC has more valuable teams than the B12. Might as well throw the B10 in there too.

 

[dasher]

They wouldn’t take any of the current B12 schools (current as of 1 minute ago) or they would have already. So just based on that, the ACC has more valuable teams than the B12. Might as well throw the B10 in there too.

Of course. Did the Big 12 make themselves better? I guess. But volume alone doesn't do that. Or much.

 

[Millhouse]

As things look in 2024-25 (as of Aug 4):

ACC	SEC	Big 12	Big 10	Pac 12	American	MWC	CUSA	MAC	Sun Belt	Independent
Boston College	Alabama	Baylor	Illinois	California	East Carolina	Air Force	FIU	Akron	Appalachian State	Army
Clemson	Arkansas	BYU	Indiana	Oregon State	Memphis	Boise State	Jacksonville State	Ball State	Arkansas State	Notre Dame
Duke	Auburn	Cincinnati	Iowa	Stanford	Navy	Colorado State	Kennesaw State	Bowling Green	Coastal Carolina	UConn
Florida State	Florida	Houston	Maryland	Washington State	SMU	Fresno State	Liberty	Buffalo	Georgia Southern	UMass
Georgia Tech	Georgia	Iowa State	Michigan		South Florida	Hawaii	Louisiana Tech	Central Michigan	Georgia State
Louisville	Kentucky	Kansas	Michigan State		Temple	Nevada	Middle Tennessee	Eastern Michigan	Louisiana
Miami (FL)	LSU	Kansas State	Minnesota		Tulane	New Mexico	New Mexico State	Kent State	Louisiana–Monroe
NC State	Mississippi State	Oklahoma State	Nebraska		Tulsa	San Diego State	San Houston State	Miami (OH)	South Alabama
North Carolina	Missouri	TCU	Northwestern		Charlotte	San Jose State	UTEP	Northern Illinois	Texas State
Pittsburgh	Ole Miss	Texas Tech	Ohio State		Florida Atlantic	UNLV	Western Kentucky	Ohio	Troy
Syracuse	South Carolina	UCF	Penn State		North Texas	Utah State		Toledo	Marshall
Virginia	Tennessee	West Virginia	Purdue		Rice	Wyoming		Western Michigan	Old Dominion
Virginia Tech	Texas A&M	Arizona*	Rutgers		UAB				Southern Miss
Wake Forest	Vanderbilt	Arizona State*	Wisconsin		UTSA				James Madison
	Oklahoma*	Colorado*	Washington*
	Texas*	Utah*	Oregon*
			UCLA*
			USC*

All these genius academics forming conferences named after the wrong number of teams

 

[dasher]

This reminds me of fans at the trade deadline in any sport. They see a rival making moves and they think we are done. Why haven't we done anything? The ACC isn't in a position where right now, they have to make panic moves. Down the road, they might have to. But not right now.

 

[qdawgg]

This reminds me of fans at the trade deadline in any sport. They see a rival making moves and they think we are done. Why haven't we done anything? The ACC isn't in a position where right now, they have to make panic moves. Down the road, they might have to. But not right now.

That’s actually a great analogy.

 

[Orangezoo]

This reminds me of fans at the trade deadline in any sport. They see a rival making moves and they think we are done. Why haven't we done anything? The ACC isn't in a position where right now, they have to make panic moves. Down the road, they might have to. But not right now.

Exactly. Reminds me of when people get over excited about some teams going nuts in the portal for hoops...

 

[rrlbees]

I have a question, what if Miami, North Carolina, fsu and clemson ( there the 3 crazy enough to do it) all figured out a way to pay out the 300 million each to leave the league and the remaining schools divided up the cash amongst themselves. Would that be such a travesty? Personally I say go ahead give us the pay day, Buh bye.

Estimates are closer to $800m to get out now. The buyout and the tv rights for 13 years.

 

[Orangefan1]

This reminds me of fans at the trade deadline in any sport. They see a rival making moves and they think we are done. Why haven't we done anything? The ACC isn't in a position where right now, they have to make panic moves. Down the road, they might have to. But not right now.

However the problem with that is it’s slim pickings now in regards to football. The ACC may have inquired but didn’t close the deal on any high major football programs which makes use vulnerable

 

[orangeinjersey]

The PAC was positioned to put the Big12 out of business. They failed to take any action. Now they are the ones in the trunk of the car.

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[TheCusian]

I think the next moves will be contraction as TV money dries up. Vanderbilt, Purdue, South Carolina, Rutgers, Maryland and prob more as a super league forms with the best teams in the SEC and B1G. Will be NFL lite and everyone else.

 

[Chris02M]

https://twitter.com/ESPNRittenberg

Sources confirm
@Matt_Fortuna
report that new B1G members Oregon and Washington will enter the league at a reduced revenue share of around $30 million, which would increase by $1 million each year during the current media rights deal with FOX/NBC/CBS.

 

[Scotch]

However the problem with that is it’s slim pickings now in regards to football. The ACC may have inquired but didn’t close the deal on any high major football programs which makes use vulnerable

Do you think that adding Arizona or Utah or Texas Tech would make the ACC any less vulnerable? This is a confusing line of thinking.

 

[Orangefan1]

I’m sorry I don’t see the value in half the teams the Big Ten has I’ll include the list Northwestern, Rutgers, Iowa, a lot of these teams are in the big ten as a matter of geography and nothing more also that map shows how weak the conference is when it comes to the coast and northeast