ACC, PAC-12, and BIG alliance / conference realignment

[TerryD]

i am sure there is language in there where the ACC could 'breach' the contract if continuing to play ND was somehow a detriment to its members.

if its 8-1-1 or 9-1-1, playing ND no longer is a viable option and that contract should be null and void.

good luck.

You too.

 

[Toga]

What the impact could be on future Syracuse schedules...

2022

Date	Opponent	Time/TV	Comments
Saturday, September 10th	at Connecticut (replaced by P12 opponent)
Saturday, September 17th	PURDUE (kept)
Saturday, September 24th	WAGNER		Annual FCS opponent
TBD	NOTRE DAME
TBD	LOUISVILLE
TBD	FLORIDA STATE
TBD	at Wake Forest
TBD	at Clemson
TBD	NORTH CAROLINA STATE
TBD	VIRGINIA
TBD	at Pittsburgh
TBD	at Boston College

Notes:

A game against Ohio University was announced 2/12/2018.

Penn State announced it was playing Ohio on 9/10/22 on January 23, 2019. It is expected that their game with Syracuse originally scheduled for 2022 will be rescheduled in 2023 or 2024.

A 2 game series against Purdue was announced 9/12/2018.

A 4 game series with UConn was announced 2/7/2020.

A game against Wagner to be played at home on 9/24/22 was announced on June 23, 2020.

The advent of the ACC Network is driving more conference games to be played early in the season.

Lastly, the Carrier Dome renovation project is expected to drive early road games for Syracuse for at least 2019 to 2022.

2023

Date	Opponent	Time/TV	Comments
Saturday, September 2nd	COLGATE
Saturday, September 9th	WESTERN MICHIGAN
Saturday, September 16th	at Purdue (kept)
Saturday, September 23rd	ARMY (moved out or replaced by a P12 opponent)
TBD	at Louisville
TBD	at Florida State
TBD	WAKE FOREST
TBD	CLEMSON
TBD	at North Carolina State
TBD	at North Carolina
TBD	PITTSBURGH
TBD	BOSTON COLLEGE

Notes:

Syracuse and Army announced a 4 game series running from 2023-2026 on August 21st, 2016.

Syracuse announced a home and home series with Western Michigan starting in 2020 on 4/17/2019.

Colgate announced they will be playing Syracuse in the Carrier Dome 9/2/2023 on April 28th, 2021.

2024

Date	Opponent	Time/TV	Comments
Saturday, August 31st	OHIO
	B1G opponent
Saturday, September 21st	at Army
TBD	P12 opponent
TBD	LOUISVILLE
TBD	FLORIDA STATE
TBD	at Wake Forest
TBD	at Clemson
TBD	NORTH CAROLINA STATE
TBD	MIAMI
TBD	at Pittsburgh
TBD	at Boston College

Notes:

Syracuse and Army announced a 4 game series running from 2023-2026 on August 21st, 2016.

2025

Date	Opponent	Time/TV	Comments
Saturday, August 31st	Tennessee (kept; $)	Atlanta, GA	Chik-Fil-A Kickoff, ABC or ESPN
Saturday, September 6th	UCONN (replaced by P12 opponent)
TBD	at Notre Dame
Saturday, September 27th	ARMY (moved out to make room for B1G opponent)
TBD	at Louisville
TBD	at Florida State
TBD	WAKE FOREST
TBD	CLEMSON
TBD	at North Carolina State
TBD	ACC Crossover TBD
TBD	PITTSBURGH
TBD	BOSTON COLLEGE

Notes:

Syracuse and Army announced a 4 game series running from 2023-2026 on August 21st, 2016.

Syracuse announced it had scheduled to play in the Chik-Fil-A Kickoff against Tennessee in Atlanta on 7/15/2021. The game will be played on August 31st, 2025

2026

Date	Opponent	Time/TV	Comments
TBD	at Notre Dame
Saturday, September 5th	NEW HAMPSHIRE
Saturday, September 26th	at Army (moved out or canceled to make room for B1G opponent)
Saturday, October 3rd	UCONN (canceled to make room for P12 opponent)
TBD	LOUISVILLE
TBD	FLORIDA STATE
TBD	at Wake Forest
TBD	at Clemson
TBD	NORTH CAROLINA STATE
TBD	ACC Crossover TBD
TBD	at Pittsburgh
TBD	at Boston College

Notes:

Syracuse and Army announced a 4 game series running from 2023-2026 on August 21st, 2016.

It was announced that Syracuse has signed a contract to play New Hampshire in the Carrier Dome on September 5th, 2026 on 10/9/2019.

2027

Date	Opponent	Time/TV	Comments
TBD	P12 opponent
TBD	FCS opponent TBD
TBD	maybe Army reschedule?
TBD	at Louisville
TBD	at Florida State
TBD	WAKE FOREST
TBD	CLEMSON
TBD	at North Carolina State
Saturday, November 6th	at Connecticut (replaced by B1G opponent)
TBD	ACC Crossover TBD
TBD	PITTSBURGH
TBD	BOSTON COLLEGE

2028

Date	Opponent	Time/TV	Comments
TBD	B1G opponent
TBD	P12 opponent
TBD	FCS opponent
TBD	maybe Army reschedule?
TBD	LOUISVILLE
TBD	FLORIDA STATE
TBD	at Wake Forest
TBD	at Clemson
TBD	NORTH CAROLINA STATE
TBD	ACC Crossover TBD
TBD	at Pittsburgh
TBD	at Boston College

2029

Date	Opponent	Time/TV	Comments
TBD	B1G opponent
TBD	NOTRE DAME
TBD	P12 opponent
TBD	FCS opponent
TBD	at Louisville
TBD	at Florida State
TBD	WAKE FOREST
TBD	CLEMSON
TBD	at North Carolina State
TBD	ACC Crossover TBD
TBD	PITTSBURGH
TBD	BOSTON COLLEGE

If the Alliance happens, it is hard to imagine the UConn games being retained. I think SU will try hard to find a way to retain the Army games, but those will be a struggle as well.

I don't see SU forgoing the chance to play an FCS opponent each season. If you add a mandatory B1G and P12 game each season, Syracuse has 1 game a season to schedule out of conference. And ND is already booked as that team 3 times. There is almost no room for other opponents.

I think they can save the series against Army or UConn. Not both. My guess is they value the Army games more. But they might go for the sure wins instead. That would be a tough call.

I believe Edsall gets a bonus for any games with UConn that get canceled.

 

[orangecuse]

I dislike the ND deal. I have never been a hater of ND until the realignment. Now they are just wasting time which hurts a conference that partnered with them and allowed them to keep status quo. Landscape is changing unfortunately. As far as all the reason's that were stated for recruiting I call BS. It may have been that way up to the 2000's maybe. They have the foundation as a national team and joining a conference I doubt would hurt that. Ohio St, and Mich are in the same situation and recruit nationally. So spare me the recruiting justification. I do not think being critical of ND is too harsh at this point.

They are a parasite, using up what they can and moving to the next host when the previous one is dried up to keep life as they want it.

Perfect analogy!

 

[GeauxSU]

Hey guys….

I’ll be the one to say it….

who’s excited for more of this?

 

[OrangeXtreme]

 

[KaiserUEO]

At this time make sure your seat backs and food trays are in their full upright position and that your seatbelt is correctly fashioned.

We will be boldly going where no conferences have gone before...

 

[OrangeXtreme]

 

[OrangeXtreme]

ACC brings the beer.

B1G brings the potato salad.

P12 brings the cups and plates.

 

[TheCusian]

ACC brings the beer.

BiG brings the potato salad.

P12 brings the cups and plates.

Just don’t ask Syracuse to swing by the Food Lion

 

[qdawgg]

ACC brings the beer.

BiG brings the potato salad.

P12 brings the cups and plates.

And they all say….. you SEC now you’ve screwed up. We’ll make our own league.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

 

[CuseLegacy]

ACC brings the beer.

BiG brings the potato salad.

P12 brings the cups and plates.

So who's bringing the dessert?

 

[KaiserUEO]

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It’s the Resistance…

 

[TheCusian]

So who's bringing the dessert?

Don’t ask ND. They’d only bring enough for themselves

 

[OrangeXtreme]

So who's bringing the dessert?

UConn's only good for Jalapeno Mac & Cheese.

 

[CuseLegacy]

Partisans!!

 

[texascpa]

Word is that there won't be anything earth-shattering in this call, but more of a "we will be working together in the future for the betterment of college athletes, our conferences and universities". We'll see.

 

[ForCuseSake]

Word is that there won't be anything earth-shattering in this call, but more of a "we will be working together in the future for the betterment of college athletes, our conferences and universities". We'll see.

I'll be shocked if there's anything substantive from this dog & pony show.

 

[rrlbees]

I'll be shocked if there's anything substantive from this dog & pony show.

I heard they’ll be announcing that JB will be getting his wins back.

 

[ForCuseSake]

I heard they’ll be announcing that JB will be getting his wins back.

And the 1990 lax title?

 

[HtownOrange]

Governance is the most important issue. Scheduling is fine and what everyone is most interested in, but governance will determine the long term stability and trajectory.

 

[Scooch]

Governance is the most important issue. Scheduling is fine and what everyone is most interested in, but governance will determine the long term stability and trajectory.

Agreed. Also, this "alliance" signals that none of these three conferences have much appetite for interminable, haphazard expansion.

 

[HtownOrange]

ESPN isn’t going to give the ACC more money for nothing. These look-ins are nothing more than just selling points.
If ESPN was going to give more money they would want more content or more control over the schedule.

Look-ins are ESPN's duty to ensure the contract is in line with other conferences and based on many criteria (success,.viewership, markets, etc.). If ESPN fails the in the duty they may be sued. It is so n ESPN's self interest to keep the ACC at least content. Self dealing too much can be bad faith bargaining and can be far more costly.


erest to keep the ACC content, if not happy.

 

[Alsacs]

Look-ins are ESPN's duty to ensure the contract is in line with other conferences and based on many criteria (success,.viewership, markets, etc.). If ESPN fails the in the duty they may be sued. It is so n ESPN's self interest to keep the ACC at least content. Self dealing too much can be bad faith bargaining and can be far more costly.


erest to keep the ACC content, if not happy.

Their is no way the contract says keep the ACC in line with other conferences.
The SEC got paid because it’s content was desired in open bidding.

The ACC look-ins aren’t going to compensate them for other conferences value.
Espn will want consideration for more money.

 

[Madbiker]

I heard USC and Ohio State are fighting over who gets to play Syracuse first.