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ACC, PAC-12, and BIG alliance / conference realignment

WoadBlue said:
That's pretty close to the actual truth. The SMU boosters were tired of seeing Oklahoma and A&M and Texas (sometimes Arkansas and LSU and Houston) buy, rather literally, most of the best talent in TX. And so they started their own slush funds. And then when caught they felt it would be wrong to stop paying guys to whom they had made 4 year promises. OU, for example, would have dumped those players they had bribed in a half second, but the SMU people at least felt an obligation to them. And the NCAA, while totally ignoring OU's endless sins at the time, decided that SMU would get the Death Penalty.

Now, I think the SMU boosters would invest in a huge way in NIL, as well as in building the best facilities for a smaller school that anybody has. SMU has 6800 undergrads and Dook has 6800 undergrads. That total makes SMU a bad addition for the ACC. We lack large student bodies. We need a school the size of Cincinnati, not another the size of Dook. Cincy has about 47,000 students, about 37,000 of them undergrads.
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Actually I think it makes SMU an excellent fit. I don't want a conference comprised of mega enrollment schools (second rank ones to boot) and directional state schools (I know that's kind of duplicative).
When everything shakes out a conference with a high % of private schools should be more stable.In the same vein SMU gives the ACC entre to Texas and the possibility of TCU and/or Baylor down the road.
 
WoadBlue said:
That's pretty close to the actual truth. The SMU boosters were tired of seeing Oklahoma and A&M and Texas (sometimes Arkansas and LSU and Houston) buy, rather literally, most of the best talent in TX. And so they started their own slush funds. And then when caught they felt it would be wrong to stop paying guys to whom they had made 4 year promises. OU, for example, would have dumped those players they had bribed in a half second, but the SMU people at least felt an obligation to them. And the NCAA, while totally ignoring OU's endless sins at the time, decided that SMU would get the Death Penalty.

Now, I think the SMU boosters would invest in a huge way in NIL, as well as in building the best facilities for a smaller school that anybody has. SMU has 6800 undergrads and Dook has 6800 undergrads. That total makes SMU a bad addition for the ACC. We lack large student bodies. We need a school the size of Cincinnati, not another the size of Dook. Cincy has about 47,000 students, about 37,000 of them undergrads.
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I agree. It was a mistake not to add Cincinnati and West Virginia a few years ago before the last Big 12 TV contract was being negotiated, their GOR was up for renewal and before the Big 12 grabbed Cincinnati. Both schools would have chosen the ACC. I understand academic considerations (both schools aren’t highly rated), but they are two large Eastern state schools that have had very good football success, and WVU has storied rivalries with Pitt, Cuse, Va Tech and BC, and Cincinnati with Louisville and their former Big East rivals.
 
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WoadBlue said:
That's pretty close to the actual truth. The SMU boosters were tired of seeing Oklahoma and A&M and Texas (sometimes Arkansas and LSU and Houston) buy, rather literally, most of the best talent in TX. And so they started their own slush funds. And then when caught they felt it would be wrong to stop paying guys to whom they had made 4 year promises. OU, for example, would have dumped those players they had bribed in a half second, but the SMU people at least felt an obligation to them. And the NCAA, while totally ignoring OU's endless sins at the time, decided that SMU would get the Death Penalty.

Now, I think the SMU boosters would invest in a huge way in NIL, as well as in building the best facilities for a smaller school that anybody has. SMU has 6800 undergrads and Dook has 6800 undergrads. That total makes SMU a bad addition for the ACC. We lack large student bodies. We need a school the size of Cincinnati, not another the size of Dook. Cincy has about 47,000 students, about 37,000 of them undergrads.
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That's why Cal works - 33K undergrads and 450K alums. AND it's a world class institution.
 
Jake said:
They were they weakest links. And let’s be honest, Unc made this decision. NCState is tied at the hip here.
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of course as NC state has to buddy buddy with unc for political reasons
 
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