ACC, PAC-12, and BIG alliance / conference realignment

[kcsu]

One thing to remember is that the GOR is based on Gross revenue to each school. It has nothing to do with their profit. ONLY revenue. What this means is that any school looking to buy their way out of the GOR just got a huge increase in the amount they will need to pay to get out of the ACC.

 

[FreakTalksAboutSU]

ACC chose the best bad option. I am thrilled. The conference has ensured that even if those 3 teams walk, the ESPN media deal is safe. And if more schools walk, there is enough of a foundation that you can likely add a couple G5 schools and still maintain status as a power conference.

Cant promise the ACC survives forever, but they made the decisive move the PAC refused to.

Feel bad for OSU and WSU though. Still wish we could have brought them in to. Still think it could have potentially helped significantly when it comes to scheduling. But I will take what we can get

 

[FRANKIEFAN]

Just when they fix the schedule this happens. Who wants to bet Miami never plays an ACC game in the Dome?

 

[Scooch]

UNC might go 4-8 this fall. I’ll laugh.

I'm rooting against all 3 schools. them.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

 

[NYCCuse826]

Where does the money come from? It would take them 2 decades to break even.

Many athletic departments across the country are already in the red. What's a little more debt?

 

[Scooch]

Also change the name please Atlantic just looks stupid now.

Stupider than the Big Ten that has 18 teams, or the Big 12 that has 16 teams?

Spoiler: It's ALL stupid now. The ACC is just joining in the stupid. Relax.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

ACC chose the best bad option. I am thrilled. The conference has ensured that even if those 3 teams walk, the ESPN media deal is safe. And if more schools walk, there is enough of a foundation that you can likely add a couple G5 schools and still maintain status as a power conference.

Cant promise the ACC survives forever, but they made the decisive move the PAC refused to.

Feel bad for OSU and WSU though. Still wish we could have brought them in to. Still think it could have potentially helped significantly when it comes to scheduling. But I will take what we can get

The best way to ensure you always have 15 teams is to start with 18.

 

[Cusefan0307]

Starting to think the SEC will never add anyone else. They don’t need to. They are going to sit back and just watch the madness of everyone else.

 

[Scooch]

As dysfunctional as the old Big East was, at least it was like fighting with your family. There's kinship amidst the chaos.

ACC dysfunction is like fighting with the neighbors that you never liked but are forced to live near.

 

[kcsu]

Bad move by the ACC.

based on what

 

[FRANKIEFAN]

Stupider than the Big Ten that has 18 teams, or the Big 12 that has 16 teams?

Spoiler: It's ALL stupid now. The ACC is just joining in the stupid. Relax.

The ACC just fixed its scheduling and now we are going to a market where the MLB and NFL are fleeing from. 2 teams there 1 horrible market worse than Boston and BC in terms of CFB/CBB popularity.

It was 10 years ago we played a 'road' NCAA tournament game against Cal in San Jose and they had literally no home court advantage and fan support.

Everyone will mock the ACC too because of its name 'Atlantic' conference playing games on the Pacific makes every member institution look pathetic.

 

[UpstateSM]

Can we just separate football from NCAA governance, give them different conferences from the rest of the sports and get all of this over with? I LOVE college sports but I'm just over all of this.

We all know what the end game is but instead of just going there we have a bunch of stupid moves that makes zero sense for everything besides football.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

Nothing screams "BIG TEN" like Seattle and Eugene.

Reporters won't do anything to stop the train wrecks, but they love to be the 1st on scene to report.

 

[EnviroSciGuy]

Many athletic departments across the country are already in the red. What's a little more debt?

It's not a little.

 

[SU94]

ACC just voted yes to Cal, Stanford and SMU.

The Board Chair of UNC's spaz out last night might be forecasting that UNC will ultimately be headed to the SEC as opposed to the B18. If travel is that unpalatable, the realities of travel in the SEC are going to be much more attractive to the Tar Heels. And there is some degree of likelihood that they'd take UVa with them (much more so than Duke).

Also, what makes ALL this very interesting/funny to me are all of the administrators who flail about saying that their programs cannot compete with (or perhaps even function) receiving $30M less per year than the B18 or SEC teams. GBO soft launched Clemson's eventual public stance in a post here earlier this week.

Let's have some perspective: 3B Manny Machado of the SD Padres makes $30M a year (and he is not among the top 10 MLB earners this year). That is one player ... and it shows how small time this all is compared to big-boy, professional sports.

Hey, I love SU, but all these Presidents, ADs, HC and Board Chairs are a collection of complete hacks and they've hindered college sports when they should be advancing it. They're treating this all like it is their Fantasy Football League and it is utterly pathetic. Bunch of inept slappies if you ask me.

 

[Scooch]

This is shameful RIP ACC.

Feel terrible for the non revenue athletes of ours being treated like puppets now they have to go to California for games. I’m furious and think the university is pathetic for bowing down to Cal Berkeley and Stanford. Invite Colgate too while we’re at it.

The SU non-revenue athletes have been traveling to exotic locales like Wisconsin, Indiana, Illinois and Kentucky for years. Honestly a couple extra hours on a plane, maybe once a year, ain't much different.

 

[EnviroSciGuy]

Can we just separate football from NCAA governance, give them different conferences from the rest of the sports and get all of this over with? I LOVE college sports but I'm just over all of this.

We all know what the end game is but instead of just going there we have a bunch of stupid moves that makes zero sense for everything besides football.

Hopefully someday this will be the answer, and I really think it would be an exciting and compelling (and profitable!) model for everyone involved.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

Bad move by the ACC.

Do nothing.

FSU and Clemson leave.

ACC drops below 15 teams, and ESPN voids the TV contract.

Worse move.

 

[orangeinohio]

Should rename to the A&P CC

[Don't care that this leaves out SMU.]

 

[kcsu]

ACC chose the best bad option. I am thrilled. The conference has ensured that even if those 3 teams walk, the ESPN media deal is safe. And if more schools walk, there is enough of a foundation that you can likely add a couple G5 schools and still maintain status as a power conference.

Cant promise the ACC survives forever, but they made the decisive move the PAC refused to.

Feel bad for OSU and WSU though. Still wish we could have brought them in to. Still think it could have potentially helped significantly when it comes to scheduling. But I will take what we can get

More schools out West actually hurts the cost structure. With only two teams the travel for the existing ACC teams is minimal. 4 doubles the travel expense. Dallas is an easy trip and the time zone is more ACC friendly. I think the ACC is done expanding until they pick off a couple of Big 12 teams in a few years.

 

[donniesyracuse]

Everyone will mock the ACC too because of its name 'Atlantic' conference playing games on the Pacific makes every member institution look pathetic.

Gosh, how will we survive?

 

[Cusefan0307]

I don’t want to hear from any journalists inside the state of North Carolina. They are PR mouthpieces for UNC. If they weren’t biased they’d call out the fact UNC would blow the conference up right now if it didn’t cost them nearly a billion dollars.

 

[FRANKIEFAN]

Nothing screams "BIG TEN" like Seattle and Eugene.

Reporters won't do anything to stop the train wrecks, but they love to be the 1st on scene to report.

We all know the Big Ten looked ridiculous doing this. The Big 12 didn't and added normal schools that are somewhat close to them regionally.

The ACC said hold my beer and one upped everyone on the stupidity. This is by far the worse move that has happened to this point and they just let the Big Ten off the hook for the West Coast nonsense and killing the P12 it won't be them that people laugh at it will be the ACC. I hope the conference gets absolutely roasted and has to go back on this. The Big East kicked out Temple so hopefully some of that starts happening.

 

[FreakTalksAboutSU]

More schools out West actually hurts the cost structure. With only two teams the travel for the existing ACC teams is minimal. 4 doubles the travel expense. Dallas is an easy trip and the time zone is more ACC friendly. I think the ACC is done expanding until they pick off a couple of Big 12 teams in a few years.

I guess. I feel like if you have, say, 6 teams out west you could split off divisions and only have a couple crossovers a year. I guess its functionally the same