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ACC, PAC-12, and BIG alliance / conference realignment

WoadBlue said:
There were only 3 that made even partial sense to add without paying hefty GOR/buyout. . Plus if you stand at 17, then you again make the case to ND that unless the ACC remains a truly Major conference. ND will be 'forced' to join the BT. So it is better for ND to play a few more ACC football games than to be in the BT.

SEC, BT, ESPN, and Fox people all want it to be always about how they are going to gain at the expense of th ACC. They have very strong biases and wish fulfillment desires.
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Yep. Does anyone here remember "the Dude of West Virginia"?
 
Orangefizz said:
Yes you can. If you have two permanent rivals then you rotate the other 14 teams over two years (7/7)
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It is math. Go ahead and mock out year 1 and you will see that one team is left with 8 games.


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Or let's pretend there are no OOC games, and only ACC games.

Week 1: one team will have get a bye

Week 2: another team have to get a bye

...and so on where after Week 9 you will 8 teams with 9 games and 9 teams with 8 games. So in Week 10 eight teams get a bye. The other 9 teams only 8 can play, one team gets left out. Which means after week 10 there are 16 teams with 9 games and 1 team with 8.
 
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HRE Otto IV said:
It is math. Go ahead and mock out year 1 and you will see that one team is left with 8 games.


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Or let's pretend there are no OOC games, and only ACC games.

Week 1: one team will have get a bye

Week 2: another team have to get a bye

...and so on where after Week 9 you will 8 teams with 9 games and 9 teams with 8 games. So in Week 10 eight teams get a bye. The other 9 teams only 8 can play, one team gets left out. Which means after week 10 there are 16 teams with 9 games and 1 team with 8.
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Boston College (SU PITT) +7
Syracuse (BC PITT) +7
Pittsburgh (BC SU) +7
Louisville (VT MIAMI) +7
Virginia Tech (UVA UL) +7
Virginia (VT UNC) +7
North Carolina (UVA NCST) +7
NC State (UNC CLEMSON) +7
Duke (WF GT) +7
Wake Forest (DUKE GT) +7
Georgia Tech (DUKE WF) +7
Clemson (NCST FSU) +7
Florida St (CLEMSON MIAMI) +7
Miami (UL FSU) +7
SMU (CAL STANFORD) +7
Stanford (CAL SMU) +7
Cal (STANFORD SMU) +7

I don’t see where I’m missing anything. Could you tell me where the math is off?
 
Orangefizz said:
Boston College (SU PITT) +7
Syracuse (BC PITT) +7
Pittsburgh (BC SU) +7
Louisville (VT MIAMI) +7
Virginia Tech (UVA UL) +7
Virginia (VT UNC) +7
North Carolina (UVA NCST) +7
NC State (UNC CLEMSON) +7
Duke (WF GT) +7
Wake Forest (DUKE GT) +7
Georgia Tech (DUKE WF) +7
Clemson (NCST FSU) +7
Florida St (CLEMSON MIAMI) +7
Miami (UL FSU) +7
SMU (CAL STANFORD) +7
Stanford (CAL SMU) +7
Cal (STANFORD SMU) +7

I don’t see where I’m missing anything. Could you tell me where the math is off?
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1. That isn't mapping out
2. You are arguing against math.

With 8 games and 14 teams and 2 teams playing per game, the ACC used to have 56 conference games. With 9 games and 17 teams and 2 teams playing per game, you end up with 76.5 games. So how exactly does one play half a game?
 
What's our worst case scenario? Big East basketball and independent football? ACC leftovers + Tulane, Memphis, UConn and USF? AAC and CUSA would be unacceptable.
 
richmondcuse03 said:
this. Plus there isn’t enough money for another conference to take four acc teams. It ain’t happening right now. Follow the money.
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None of these scenarios make sense.

Everything I run through my head hits a brick wall.
UNC, FSU, Clemson and UVA are a block and somehow "get out" of the GOR. The only way out of the GOR is through litigation. No conference is going to take on a new member until that litigation is concluded. I don't really know contract law, but I know that courts do not like to void contracts. So I doubt it's really possible without a significant payment.

So say they get to that point. Either B1G or SEC. Why is ESPN going to pay them more money in the SEC? Why would ESPN not fight for the GOR to the death to stop a significant asset from going to Fox/NBC?

Realistically, the B1G is not an option for this scenario. So the SEC - presumably then ESPN would be colluding to destroy the ACC and pick off its 4 preferred members to the SEC, thereby strengthening the SEC and ESPN would save a ton of money on the ACC's dissolution or breakdown of the GOR.

If that was the case I imagine the remaining ACC, whatever that looks like (us, BC, Wake, Georgia Tech, SMU & Calford?) would have a cause of action to sue ESPN, the SEC and the colluding former ACC schools.

I'd love for someone who knows more to explain better, but that scenario sounds very illegal.
 
NKR1978 said:
None of these scenarios make sense.

Everything I run through my head hits a brick wall.
UNC, FSU, Clemson and UVA are a block and somehow "get out" of the GOR. The only way out of the GOR is through litigation. No conference is going to take on a new member until that litigation is concluded. I don't really know contract law, but I know that courts do not like to void contracts. So I doubt it's really possible without a significant payment.

So say they get to that point. Either B1G or SEC. Why is ESPN going to pay them more money in the SEC? Why would ESPN not fight for the GOR to the death to stop a significant asset from going to Fox/NBC?

Realistically, the B1G is not an option for this scenario. So the SEC - presumably then ESPN would be colluding to destroy the ACC and pick off its 4 preferred members to the SEC, thereby strengthening the SEC and ESPN would save a ton of money on the ACC's dissolution or breakdown of the GOR.

If that was the case I imagine the remaining ACC, whatever that looks like (us, BC, Wake, Georgia Tech, SMU & Calford?) would have a cause of action to sue ESPN, the SEC and the colluding former ACC schools.

I'd love for someone who knows more to explain better, but that scenario sounds very illegal.
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I'm not a lawyer but I play one on the internet.

Tortious interference - Wikipedia

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NKR1978 said:
None of these scenarios make sense.

Everything I run through my head hits a brick wall.
UNC, FSU, Clemson and UVA are a block and somehow "get out" of the GOR. The only way out of the GOR is through litigation. No conference is going to take on a new member until that litigation is concluded. I don't really know contract law, but I know that courts do not like to void contracts. So I doubt it's really possible without a significant payment.

So say they get to that point. Either B1G or SEC. Why is ESPN going to pay them more money in the SEC? Why would ESPN not fight for the GOR to the death to stop a significant asset from going to Fox/NBC?

Realistically, the B1G is not an option for this scenario. So the SEC - presumably then ESPN would be colluding to destroy the ACC and pick off its 4 preferred members to the SEC, thereby strengthening the SEC and ESPN would save a ton of money on the ACC's dissolution or breakdown of the GOR.

If that was the case I imagine the remaining ACC, whatever that looks like (us, BC, Wake, Georgia Tech, SMU & Calford?) would have a cause of action to sue ESPN, the SEC and the colluding former ACC schools.

I'd love for someone who knows more to explain better, but that scenario sounds very illegal.
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Can someone tell me what UVA brings to the table for the SEC or Big10?
 
Everyone gets out of the ACC conference.
Their changing the conference name to the BCC. The BiCoastal Conference. ;)
 
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