ACC, PAC-12, and BIG alliance / conference realignment

[SU94]

Do you really trust them?
They had ND ranked over Miami, ignoring their head-to-head game, until the final minute.

Exactly right. Don't trust them.

The problem with that is, like the traditional rankings, SU and Wake do not start the season in the same spot as Clemson, Miami or even FSU.

Example:
First playoff rankings will have 6-2 FSU ranked well ahead of 6-2 Syracuse. Like by 10-15 spots.

And that is the fatal flaw of CFB.

 

[Scooch]

Do you really trust them?
They had ND ranked over Miami, ignoring their head-to-head game, until the final minute.

Has nothing to do with trust. It’s all politics and the ACC needs to play that game. IMHO.

 

[Archbold44]

Has nothing to do with trust. It’s all politics and the ACC needs to play that game. IMHO.

Overall record needs to be in the mix. No ACC team with 3+ losses should be eligible over a 2 loss team. Last year, it should have been SMU v Miami. This year, it should have been Virginia v Miami. Until the ACC starts getting 3 10-2 teams…and when is the last time that happened… no need to worry about fairness to 9-3 teams, much less 8-4 and 7-5 teams.

 

[Hoo's That]

The league should still want to have the best possible auto-qualifier. The conference champ game tie breaker really needs to be best CFP ranking.

Do you really trust them?
They had ND ranked over Miami, ignoring their head-to-head game, until the final minute.

The argument that the ACC makes against using the poll is that they don't want outsiders to pick the representative and they want on-the-field results to matter.

 

[Archbold44]

The argument that the ACC makes against using the poll is that they don't want outsiders to pick the representative and they want on-the-field results to matter.

Then look to overall record somehow. Not saying that 10-2/6-2 is always better than 9-3/6-2... but 8-4 and 7-5 need to result in elimination from contention, regardless of conference record or who the losses are too.

 

[WoadBlue]

The argument that the ACC makes against using the poll is that they don't want outsiders to pick the representative and they want on-the-field results to matter.

Then the ACC MUST add in OOC records so that those bad losses keep out a team like Dook this year.

 

[HRE Otto IV]

If the ACC and B12 Champs have auto bids going forward none of this will matter.

But if I am the B1G and SEC I want to adopt a stipulation that for all auto bids the CCG tie breaker is ranking (after head to head). So it applies to all four conferences. That way you don't see a back door two bids from the ACC or B12.

In the case of the B1G and SEC it won't matter too much. The SEC CG this year would have been UGA vs Ole Miss instead. Not a big deal as Bama was in anyway. But for the ACC it is UVA vs Miami, meaning no chance at UVA and Miami both making it. And more importantly no Duke.

 

[Hoo's That]

Then look to overall record somehow. Not saying that 10-2/6-2 is always better than 9-3/6-2... but 8-4 and 7-5 need to result in elimination from contention, regardless of conference record or who the losses are too.

Then the ACC MUST add in OOC records so that those bad losses keep out a team like Dook this year.

I totally agree. I have zero problem with making overall record the tiebreaker when they get down as far as they did this time. What was it something like the #5 tiebreaker?