It can't be debated that top ten teams and contending for national titles was in our past for a long time and that our present has been a good deal short of that for a long enough time that it's not just a slump. I have no problem with people speculating that we could do better with another coach, although it's a toss of the dice to see if the other coach can have more success or bring us back to the old days, (see the football program). It could be being in the ACC in the era of NIL and the portal makes it more difficult to obtain our previous standards and I've posted the success rate of coaches who follow 'legends'. There aren't many legendary coaches out there, even if you count the ones who aren't legends yet but will be.
I also agree with many of criticisms being made and think it would probably be better for JB to retire like so many of the coaches of his generation have done lately, for his own sake as well as the schools. He's not going to be 'fired', although his retirement might be suggested in private.
I just have no patience for false or over-statements such as last year's "we don't have the talent to compete with the teams we are playing" or this year's "we have become a national joke." We just aren't what we used to be and would like to become what we used to be, even if it might be harder now. The rest is just noise.
This thread is an exercise in futility. Yes, it gives people who want to express opinions, something to talk about the HC but nothing will happen until he’s gone.
Some hate the ground he walks on
Some think he’s a cranky, old SOB who shouldn’t be a coach anymore
Most dislike the fact that JB didn’t retire years ago
They wanted Mike Hopkins to step in as HC, so did I
They don’t like his coaching record for the past nine years
They don’t like what he says at press conferences
They want man instead of the zone
They don’t like the players he plays
They don’t like what the player does when he’s finally in the game
They don’t like the way the HC treats his players – he’s in their face
They don’t like the way he treats or interacts with the media
They don’t like the way he says - he’s going to retire when he wants to
They don’t like the way he goes to the bathroom, he uses too much toilet paper
Why don’t we, for a second, go back ten years before our National Championship.
The discussion then was why can’t he win the BIG ONE? And for years there was a continual sh** storm about that
I could go back years and read just about the same rhetoric as tonight. Especially page three in this thread
I’ve been watching this team court side as a spotter for the official scorer since 1962 when Dave Bing put it on the map and fans came up the Hill and began watching SU basketball. Manley Field House was the place to be whenever there was a game being played. Then came “The Pearl” in ’83 and the DOME was electric
Everyone agrees, I believe, the HC has created an amazing record and defined Syracuse as a basketball icon – without the last nine years. Let’s make it ten for even numbers sake and look at where he fell off the wagon. Let’s see ’12 34 – 3, whoops, that’s one more year than allowed
’13 30 – 10, ’14 28 – 6, ’15 23 – 15, ’16 19 – 15, ’17 23 -14 ’18 20 – 14, ’19 18 – 14, ’20 18-10, 21 16 – 17, ’22 ?
Looks like 2016 would have been a nice place to stop. And, it would have allowed Mike to step in nicely instead of leaving. It would be great to have him back here, IMO. Or not?
Does he stay and we see what he does next year?
I agree with SWC75 when you think you're getting an "ace coach" who will take us back to the old days. A toss of the dice, yes. Snake Eyes?
