ACC to Boeheim

[OrangeDW]

15-10 is not acceptable. And whats worse is the quality of wins. Ill go to the games and support the kids but come on guys. Its fallen apart

Im going for the Blue Lights, at this point.

 

[HOFCeluck]

Im going for the Blue Lights, at this point.

I would still go for a dome dog and nachos ngl

 

[Trueblue25]

Its already gone and over with. Its sad people expend energy complaining about it, myself included. Its unbelievable the energy and gymnastics people perform to justify and explain it.

Syracuse let this happen to the program. And now it is what it is.

 

[OrangeDW]

I would still go for a dome dog and nachos ngl

I’ve got some bad news….

The nachos aren’t the same nachos.

 

[Day2]

I’ve got some bad news….

The nachos aren’t the same nachos.

 

[crv1728]

And we looked pretty good in that last game. Who knows what would have happened in the ACCT?

How far has SU ever gone in the ACC tournament? It’s hard to imagine that year would have been any different.

 

[OrangeDW]

How far has SU ever gone in the ACC tournament? It’s hard to imagine that year would have been any different.

Especially considering that we stunk that year.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

How far has SU ever gone in the ACC tournament? It’s hard to imagine that year would have been any different.

We were going all the way...

in 2020.

 

[DilemaCuse]

That’s a pitch perfect response if your goal is to elicit a bunch of likes. Doesn’t really advance the discussion, though, does it?

I was always under the impression that how you play factors into the equation, not just whether you win or lose. It’s not like we lost those games by 20 points. Those games weren’t even like the loss to Pitt.

Folks like you are quick to point out our floor (we absolutely could have lost to ND twice and Louisville), yet you refuse to acknowledge our ceiling. Why is that?

Because our ceiling is competing for conference and national championships and it's been quite a while since we can honestly say we have came close to that.

 

[DilemaCuse]

I would say that hasn’t happened since Richmond/SJU. What would you say?

1st half against VTech. 52 points allowed, stay in zone w deer in headlights.

 

[Trueblue25]

These people are paid how much to sit back and let Jb steer the ship into the ice berg? I really dont know how its defensible

 

[OrangeDW]

Jims back next year

“Coach stays.”

 

[kcsu]

Denny Crum is available, why don’t we hire him? He’s only like 7 years older than Boeheim, so no big deal.

What about Bernie

 

[crv1728]

What about Bernie

Fine or Sanders?

 

[kcsu]

Fine or Sanders?

Fine.

 

[HOFCeluck]

Fine or Sanders?

Sanders

 

[Gotothehole]

We used to play Duke tonight with the whole country watching,

 

[OrlandoCuse]

Denny Crum is available, why don’t we hire him? He’s only like 7 years older than Boeheim, so no big deal.

JT III is available. It is a little odd he hasn’t gotten another gig since 2017.

 

[miamicuse]

 

[Day2]

Because our ceiling is competing for conference and national championships and it's been quite a while since we can honestly say we have came close to that.

That’s really more of a goal or an expectation. By ceiling, I mean what our record would be had we won all of the close games.

Had we just won the three games I mentioned, we would be in first place in the conference and firmly in the tournament. I get it, we didn’t win those games and the committee doesn’t take close losses into consideration. That’s not the point. The point is we are that close to meeting just about everyone’s expectations.

And that’s why I think most of you refuse to acknowledge it. Because it would also mean conceding that JB can still coach. I know he’s a lazy recruiter and that recruiting is part of coaching. Just focusing on the games, though, with the talent he has and the one defense he insists on playing, we’re a few missed rebounds, questionable calls, and unlucky bounces away from being pretty damn good. The team has improved over the course of the season. JB may not be the coach he once was, but he’s still better than most.

BTW, Providence lost to SJU today, so I guess Cooley is off the table now.

 

[DilemaCuse]

That’s really more of a goal or an expectation. By ceiling, I mean what our record would be had we won all of the close games.

Had we just won the three games I mentioned, we would be in first place in the conference and firmly in the tournament. I get it, we didn’t win those games and the committee doesn’t take close losses into consideration. That’s not the point. The point is we are that close to meeting just about everyone’s expectations.

And that’s why I think most of you refuse to acknowledge it. Because it would also mean conceding that JB can still coach. I know he’s a lazy recruiter and that recruiting is part of coaching. Just focusing on the games, though, with the talent he has and the one defense he insists on playing, we’re a few missed rebounds, questionable calls, and unlucky bounces away from being pretty damn good. The team has improved over the course of the season. JB may not be the coach he once was, but he’s still better than most.

BTW, Providence lost to SJU today, so I guess Cooley is off the table now.

My take was more program ceiling as opposed to team ceiling. Sure he can still coach. Can he coach at the highest levels? No. Can he coach as good as good in his prime? No. We can see that in the win percentage decline. Is it a good look to have a guy nearing 80 as the head coach? No. Does the program need to move off him and get new energy? Yes

 

[FrancoPizza]

“Coach stays.”

Where are you hearing this

 

[crv1728]

My take was more program ceiling as opposed to team ceiling. Sure he can still coach. Can he coach at the highest levels? No. Can he coach as good as good in his prime? No. We can see that in the win percentage decline. Is it a good look to have a guy nearing 80 as the head coach? No. Does the program need to move off him and get new energy? Yes

New energy is the key. We are slowly fading now into irrelevancy.

 

[DilemaCuse]

BTW, Providence lost to SJU today, so I guess Cooley is off the table now.

No, Cooley is meeting and exceeding the expectations for PC. JB is not. Big difference.
As Axe said this week, unlike football there is an infrastructure at SU bball to be better than they have been.

 

[Toga]