ACC tournament projection v. 2.0

[jdubs30]

I want to play Duke. They aren’t very good, but their metrics are. They just happened to have their best game of the year against us.

Teams that light us up from 3 I always look forward to playing again, like Clemson last night. Very rare that a team will kill us from 3 twice in the same season

 

[Briancuse]

I want to play Duke. They aren’t very good, but their metrics are. They just happened to have their best game of the year against us.

Plus if they lose on Sat there is a very good chance they lose interest. Nc state is a hungry team right now.

 

[jdubs30]

At 11-10, Duke isn't a high profile win.

Based in the alternatives it is

 

[pearl31]

Plus if they lose on Sat there is a very good chance they lose interest. Nc state is a hungry team right now.

nah - dook will still be (in their collective mind) scratching and clawing for an at-large, moreso than nc st IMO

 

[upperdeck]

Duke still thinks they can win the ACC tourney, they do have players

 

[Newhouser]

If we want to win 2 games we need to get to the 7 line.

Whatever puts on the other side of the bracket from Virginia is what I want.

I don’t want any part of UVA before a final.

I fear FSU more than anyone.

 

[pearl31]

also to remember-
NC St is now without its two best guards - obviously Daniels who went down last month but now also Thomas Allen, probably their best shooter after Daniels, who's out for the year - Hayes, Moore, Beverly are pretty good as a rotation but it's pretty lacking compared to what it had been

 

[djcon57]

At 11-10, Duke isn't a high profile win.

if you don’t think name recognition matters to the committee you haven’t been paying attention

 

[Ryand877]

This article is also wrong in stating we can drop to the 9 seed. If we don't play anymore games we're locked into either 7 or 8. Duke beats unc we still have better win %

He also initially had written that Cuse could be the ten seed based on NC State/Tech game results. He must not have realized that game had been already cancelled when he wrote the article. He has edited that part out since.

 

[Alsacs]

We should all want NC State round one.
It’s our best matchup and allows the best chance to move on.
Duke has enough talent I want no part of.
Steward went off against us.
That big guy went off against us and Hurt would get a lot of points.

Leave Duke out of our path.
Beverley might be the worst defensive guard in the ACC Buddy and Kadary would be able to feast on him.

They aren’t deep as long as we rebound okay it’s our best matchup.

Then take your chances against Florida State hope they are sleep walking.

 

[Briancuse]

We should all want NC State round one.
It’s our best matchup and allows the best chance to move on.
Duke has enough talent I want no part of.
Steward went off against us.
That big guy went off against us and Hurt would get a lot of points.

Leave Duke out of our path.
Beverley might be the worst defensive guard in the ACC Buddy and Kadary would be able to feast on him.

They aren’t deep as long as we rebound okay it’s our best matchup.

Then take your chances against Florida State hope they are sleep walking.

So what has to happen for that, Duke needs to win?

 

[pearl31]

We should all want NC State round one.
It’s our best matchup and allows the best chance to move on.
Duke has enough talent I want no part of.
Steward went off against us.
That big guy went off against us and Hurt would get a lot of points.

Leave Duke out of our path.
Beverley might be the worst defensive guard in the ACC Buddy and Kadary would be able to feast on him.

They aren’t deep as long as we rebound okay it’s our best matchup.

Then take your chances against Florida State hope they are sleep walking.

you've convinced me

 

[Alsacs]

So what has to happen for that, Duke needs to win?

UNC beats Duke we are almost a lock to play NC State unless Pitt beat Clemson.

 

[pearl31]

UNC beats Duke we are almost a lock to play NC State unless Pitt beat Clemson.

but it'd still be NC St for us if:
UNC beats dook
Pitt beats Clemson

right?

so more than anything -- if we indeed want to ply NCS and not dook -- we need unc to beat dook on saturday

 

[OrangeYaGladi]

I'd prefer not to play Duke but would enjoy seeing Edwards get minutes against Mark Williams.

 

[Knicks411]

I agree, here is another scenario. What would win a tie breaker between 0-0 or 0-1(totally hypothetical)? I think by logic it would have to be a common opponent.

Yeah I'd say in that scenario you'd go down the line, neither team wins.

This procedure obviously wasn't meant to handle a scenario where everyone doesnt play everyone at least once. So I think it would be ad hoc this year as opposed to purely interpreting the existing rules. I think?

 

[upperdeck]

the clearest answer is they better have it answered before teams finish this weekend so teams know what matters. And it should have been answered weeks ago when it became clear it was gonna happen. This isnt a case of where the last couple games got cancelled and caused the chaos.

 

[Alsacs]

Yeah I'd say in that scenario you'd go down the line, neither team wins.

This procedure obviously wasn't meant to handle a scenario where everyone doesnt play everyone at least once. So I think it would be ad hoc this year as opposed to purely interpreting the existing rules. I think?

Which is why it is pretty simple they should have the highest ranked team that would settle the tiebreaker that each team played.
It’s not hard and it is fair.

 

[MSOrange]

We should all want NC State round one.
It’s our best matchup and allows the best chance to move on.
Duke has enough talent I want no part of.
Steward went off against us.
That big guy went off against us and Hurt would get a lot of points.

Leave Duke out of our path.
Beverley might be the worst defensive guard in the ACC Buddy and Kadary would be able to feast on him.

They aren’t deep as long as we rebound okay it’s our best matchup.

Then take your chances against Florida State hope they are sleep walking.

I agree. That first game vs Duke just didn't give me a great vibe it was a good matchup for us.

 

[dollarbill44]

Again if you don’t play a team you don’t have any win percentage. It’s not 0 it’s infinity.

You don’t even know if you are right. I emailed the ACC guy I know to get clarity.

How you are digging in on this take without knowing is fine you could be right. You could be wrong.

An unequal amount of games clearly infers both teams atleast PLAYING the team.
The rule doesn’t say anything if one team didn’t even play the team.

I'm not a mathematician, but winning pct is wins/games played. 1 divided by 2 = .500, 0 divided by 0 = 0, not infinity.

 

[ROCuse]

I'm not a mathematician, but winning pct is wins/games played. 1 divided by 2 = .500, 0 divided by 0 = 0, not infinity.

Anything divided by 0 is undefined.

 

[Ryand877]

I'm not a mathematician, but winning pct is wins/games played. 1 divided by 2 = .500, 0 divided by 0 = 0, not infinity.

Any number divided by zero is undefined. Ask Siri what zero divided by zero is. Response is funny.

 

[Briancuse]

I'm not a mathematician, but winning pct is wins/games played. 1 divided by 2 = .500, 0 divided by 0 = 0, not infinity.

 

[NineOneSeven]

The game against Duke was not even a game outside of the first 3 minutes and people want them? Very odd to me. They played their best game against us sure... but they also played their best game against... us

 

[OrangeYaGladi]

The game against Duke was not even a game outside of the first 3 minutes and people want them? Very odd to me. They played their best game against us sure... but they also played their best game against... us

@ Clemson was a game for about 11 minutes