Cusefan0307
Red recruits the ACC!
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And if we struggle on defense and we aren't making up for it on offense we can play Brycen. He covers a lot of room there and can shoot better than Carey.
Let's allow this to play out before casting aspersions on the young man. He's surely disappointed and it's only been a half day to process it. Hopefully, he talks with one of the assistants, gets reset and comes back with a healthy outlook. I think he still has a lot to offer, but right now, maybe he needs to just focus on improving without the stress of having to perform as a main player.The last thing we need is a guy who is going to pout and make it all about him. I support our guys and want them all here. I think Carey has a high ceiling if he could get out of his own head. Unfortunately this looks like it has turned into a situation where he is not going to fight through adversity. If he is going to become a poor teammate and play the “poor me” card, I would rather him leave now. Bad attitudes can really affect a team’s chemistry and this young team doesn’t need it.
Smh. Every sentence in this post is either incorrect or shortsighted.he is the most physically talented guard we have, and probably the most talented individual player we have. having said that, he just doesn't seem to have what it takes to compete at a high level, just another whiff by this staff. to play basketball at a high major level requires talent of course but more than that, especially for an undersized guy like carey, it requires a discipline and tenacity to get better. and it is just apparent that this guy doesnt have it, he is getting clowned by colgate and a 300 virginia recruit for crissakes. i dont think that girard is better or has a higher ceiling, but at least he is trying.
He had a long leash the first two games and then his minutes were decimated for 10 games after that, with his only double-digit minutes coming against bottom-feeder non-conference teams. So he had his opportunity early, didn't take advantage of it and saw his minutes cut drastically, until he earned them back. Meanwhile, Jalen continued to get minutes while putting up walk-on-like stats. There's reason Buddy played more in ACC play while Jalen ride the pine, and it had nothing to do with being the coach's son.
This is a really weird take. You don't shoot 40% from 3pt land in the ACC just because you get "undeserved" minutes. You realize there is a skill involved here, right?You probably would have, too, if you had the same long leash that JB gave to Buddy...
Does any other major program have a recruit/young player falling off the wheels like this almost every year? Does anybody else think it's the head coach, and not the 19 year old?
Exactly. He had a lot of excitement coming in and people are more familiar with him. People aren’t cheering for Carey coming out.Semi-local kid who beat the odds, scoring legend, GMac2
he is the most physically talented guard we have, and probably the most talented individual player we have. having said that, he just doesn't seem to have what it takes to compete at a high level, just another whiff by this staff. to play basketball at a high major level requires talent of course but more than that, especially for an undersized guy like carey, it requires a discipline and tenacity to get better. and it is just apparent that this guy doesnt have it, he is getting clowned by colgate and a 300 virginia recruit for crissakes. i dont think that girard is better or has a higher ceiling, but at least he is trying.
He's probably chimed in already, but you just made his point.
Yes, Buddy had terrific numbers in the ACC, which we wouldn't have seen without the long leash that allowed him time to settle in after a first month that saw him shoot...a bit less than 40%.
My beef is why can’t we retain Carey, a high ceiling athlete, at the two and split time with Buddy 75/25?
buddy’s a better scorer and perimeter threat, but Carey‘s a better defender and has the most transition/penetration potential. Buddy takes a breather, we still have Girard and Hughes pulling defenders to the perimeter.
This will not happen, but it’s sad to see high ceiling talent likely leave.
Does any other major program have a recruit/young player falling off the wheels like this almost every year? Does anybody else think it's the head coach, and not the 19 year old?
FFS - The ONLY reason Buddy had "a long leash" to open the season last year, was because BOTH Frank and Jalen were INJURED.
It was Battle, Buddy, and ??? at guard for us for like a month.
And yes - Buddy struggled pretty mightily at times, and his PT often reflected that.
Conversely - in ACC play he was our most consistent shooter, so of course he got run.
I think, implausible as it sounds, Dolezaj and Chukwu connected on a similar play in the ACC last year.
But yeah, that was a sight for sore eyes. Buddy pushed the ball up court! Girard kept his head up and looked for a teammate! Guys filled lanes on a fast break (something we haven't seen in years)! Sidibe caught the ball and finished strong!
Also, Girard made an 85-foot outlet pass to Hughes later in the half that Hughes didn't do anything with. That was a sneaky athletic play to drop the ball in there like a quarterback, and also obviously heads-up and aggressive. I really am impressed with the kid's game.
Sid did the "I'm open!" hand raise as he filled the lane, and JGIII immediately tossed it up to him.
And he caught it and finished strong!!! Great teamwork!
We used to take this seemingly routine sort of fast break finish for granted.
Let's hope it's the first of MANY more!
if boeheim played favorites the older brother wouldn't be at cornell, he would've been at SUFFS - The ONLY reason Buddy had "a long leash" to open the season last year, was because BOTH Frank and Jalen were INJURED.
It was Battle, Buddy, and ??? at guard for us for like a month.
And yes - Buddy struggled pretty mightily at times, and his PT often reflected that.
Conversely - in ACC play he was our most consistent shooter, so of course he got run.
We’ve seen Brycen make a few shots. I think the whole “Carey can’t shoot” thing is overstated, he’s got a good midrange jumper (goodine’s certainly a superior perimeter player by the looks of it).Well I hate to pile on, but Brycen can back up both positions and he’s a better shooter than Carey.
Tucker likely would’ve given Duke valuable minutes this year, just saying.Jordan Tucker left Duke. Must be K's fault.
Quade Green left Kentucky. Must be Cal's fault.
Stop it! These comments about kids running away after a litte adversity is stupid. His failings aren't the coaches fault.Hope he sticks around but I would bet he’s gone by Christmas.
If all goes to plan recruiting, an extra scholarship will be needed for next year. I don’t agree with this tact but it’s likely what some posters are getting at.Stop it! These comments about kids running away after a litte adversity is stupid. His failings aren't the coaches fault.
I hate the way the fans cheer for Girard, I've said I think it's gross because it doesn't feel like they're cheering for JG3 so much as cheering against Carey - but the difference in the way the offense ran with him on the floor was clear.
I could use this response for a dozen people on here, so it's not really directed to you, but I think you just perfectly described Jason Hart and Adrian Autry after a season and 1.13 games of each player's college career.
I'm not the only one who's glad the Syracuse University basketball program afforded its point guards more time to develop back then. (And before somebody jumps in with a "but but but you could see flashes," no. You couldn't. Hart in particular was dreadful for his first two years: out of control, no feel, couldn't finish. Good defender, though. Sounds like a familiar skill set.)