Anyone know what’s up with SUfootball NIL

[NineOneSeven]

This is such a pivotal and stressful time in Syracuse athletics.

I don’t know whether to puke, crap my pants, or call my mom and tell her I love her.

Always do the last part.

 

[rocklloyd]

Kinda miss the late 80’s with bags being handed out on the down low and cars coming from bill rapp dealerships for a few. Not a lot of complexity back then

 

[Trueblue25]

Read this thread. It’s all counterproductive. Let’s support Syracuse

Why on earth should we do that? Because Cuse exists? How about the hill gets it the hell together. At best this is another unmitigated, embarrassing fall out thats made it to the internet.

 

[kcsu]

i'll put it out there since many know and it was mentioned when the site started but i believe that nil site was run by joe burton.

Yes. Joe, PJ, and Colby. Everything is in Flux. Change is always disruptive. Hopefully the power players come together soon. Things were heading in a very good direction. Our previous Chancellor really messed us up on his way out. People have no clue about the value of JW. I personally was convinced that Carp was the pick. Im very impressed with the guy from Toledo and I'm hopeful that the love of Syracuse will overcome the Baloney that is currently happening. I know each one of these individuals and they all love SU. They are all good people that are extremely successful and used to being in charge. The new AD has his work cut out for him. As to Fran. If he's supported he's all in. I think that he will be.
Next head bball coach selection is obviously important BUT nowhere as important as football.
The UCF coach and or G will both be supported. Personally I'm fine with either one. G was Jims choice but obviously the job had to go to Red.
JB has an enormous amount of support which shouldn't be ignored. Melo loves and respects Jim. Jim is tight with Adam. Adam isn't liked by some of the larger boosters.
Its complicated.

 

[gmoney44]

From what richmondcuse03 has shared with a few of us, this is about to get nuts and not in a good way. The NIL site came down Wednesday night. These Lallys are a real problem

Ever since they have been around circa 2019 SU football and basketball have been a train wreck for the most part. I get they have given lots of money but their influence in the AD has been bad for SU.

Also their name on the Melo Center is BS.

 

[RMH44]

There’s no one else left to talk to. Everyone has been fired. He’s just looking for feedback.

JW????

 

[PAcuse]

So basically we have cry bay big donors that don’t like when things don’t go their way and it’s ruining other people that are very helpful to the University and this got this way because our chancellor did not put on his big boy pants and say no.
Am I missing anything?

 

[hoopsupstate]

Yes. Joe, PJ, and Colby. Everything is in Flux. Change is always disruptive. Hopefully the power players come together soon. Things were heading in a very good direction. Our previous Chancellor really messed us up on his way out. People have no clue about the value of JW. I personally was convinced that Carp was the pick. Im very impressed with the guy from Toledo and I'm hopeful that the love of Syracuse will overcome the Baloney that is currently happening. I know each one of these individuals and they all love SU. They are all good people that are extremely successful and used to being in charge. The new AD has his work cut out for him. As to Fran. If he's supported he's all in. I think that he will be.
Next head bball coach selection is obviously important BUT nowhere as important as football.
The UCF coach and or G will both be supported. Personally I'm fine with either one. G was Jims choice but obviously the job had to go to Red.
JB has an enormous amount of support which shouldn't be ignored. Melo loves and respects Jim. Jim is tight with Adam. Adam isn't liked by some of the larger boosters.
Its complicated.

All Weitsman has to do is donate $25,000,001 and then swatch the Lally’s squirm. I also want to recognize the financial support the Lally’s provide. We’d be up the creek without them. I just wish all our supporters would just work together to support our teams. We all have the same goal. I HOPE

 

[tep624]

All Weitsman has to do is donate $25,000,001 and then swatch the Lally’s squirm. I also want to recognize the financial support the Lally’s provide. We’d be up the creek without them. I just wish all our supporters would just work together to support our teams. We all have the same goal. I HOPE

 

[IthacaBarrel]

Just to say it again for the __nth time. College athletics. What the heck happened?

“Athletes bring in so much money to the school we have to pay the players! But raise money from the community in a fund separate from the university that is managed by something somehow! But yes millionaires actually have the most money because they are millionaires, so we need them the most! And because they have the most they also want to do more stuff, so they need to be included in decisions for reasons. But how many should be? Should all? What’s the entry fee to sit at the table to choose the next su athletic dept employee? And if they aren’t they will be upset. And maybe they won’t donate as much. And maybe their hair falls out like Walter Sobchak’s ex wife’s Pomeranian. And if they don’t donate, the players won’t get paid. So then the players won’t play. So then we lose games. So we need more money. So please donate!”

Life is a circle and we are all

Welcome to Syracuse Mr. Blair, you have a call on line 1 and 3 others on hold. “ should I tell them you’re out of the office”

 

[JRHEETER]

As I stated in a previous post. Many so called insiders really have no clue.
If Fran, the Lally’s, and other donors besides JB decide to leave, it’s not because of a lack of passion and appreciation for Syracuse. It’s because of the foolishness of the “fans”.
None of us know what’s happening behind the scenes at this time, but let’s have faith in the true supporters and boosters we have.
And maybe if some of you charged your time you spend trashing individuals on the internet to NIL, we would win a national championship

Sorry guess we are not “true supporters”

 

[Dmcnabbrules]

Since this is the football board, how is all of the change going to affect Fran and the football money?

 

[IthacaBarrel]

Since this is the football board, how is all of the change going to affect Fran and the football money?

TBD, but right now I’d be running to the bank! It’s probably going to be fine but this what the AD gets paid for. adult daycare

 

[2B20Again]

Ever since they have been around circa 2019 SU football and basketball have been a train wreck for the most part. I get they have given lots of money but their influence in AD has been bad for SU.

Also their name on the Melo Center is BS.

Sorry guess we are not “true supporters”

Really!Really! What one of clowns “I included) say on a message board affects huge financial decisions about funding the universities athletic programs??? Immediately stop. We must move on to politics, war. Peace good and evil. We’re wasting our time and unbridled power. Sorry I have to go. I have dragons to slay and princesses to save!

 

[Bayside44]

Kinda miss the late 80’s with bags being handed out on the down low and cars coming from bill rapp dealerships for a few. Not a lot of complexity back then

To think people here still hang that probation over JB's head for $50 spending money and some spaghetti.

 

[SUfanNC]

Sorry guess we are not “true supporters”

I believe in your support! Just cause your name isn’t on a building ( I assume) and didn’t buy your way onto the bot to have an influence. I believe in your fandom.

 

[batfactory]

At the end of the day, the most likely outcome is that this all gets worked out at 90% of fans have no idea anything happened. Might be good for everyone to take a step back

nope

 

[richmondcuse03]

So basically we have cry bay big donors that don’t like when things don’t go their way and it’s ruining other people that are very helpful to the University and this got this way because our chancellor did not put on his big boy pants and say no.
Am I missing anything?

Little more complicated.

As kcsu posted, there are alums involved who love the school, played for the football team and want what’s right. They are also very connected with other alums who also want what’s right. It’s never just one person. You want everyone involved rowing in the right direction.

This goes beyond just one AD candidate and getting their person or not. Easy to simplify it on a message board to folks vs the Lally’s but there was a lot more going on behind the scenes. The leadership vacuum at the school transitioning several major roles didn’t help. And trying to force a terrible candidate in Lyke on everyone else was bizarre.

School should have been more on top of NIL stuff. orange united was a disaster and the organization in charge went bankrupt. It’s harder and harder to support the school when they continue to make their own foolish mistakes.

 

[Newhouser]

It seems to me that what the school has been slow to realize is that in this modern age there are few secrets. Boards like this, donors wanting attention. Info gets leaked and fan bases don't follow around meekly. We have a voice and use it.
Also I'm on the record Cuse and a bunch of other name schools can't hang in this arms race. Get the effort but hope some plans are being made for the next step.

 

[Cusefan0307]

There better be an all day kumbaya meeting on the hill today. It’s times like this that we miss Dino.

 

[721Comstock]

There better be an all day kumbaya meeting on the hill today. It’s times like this that we miss Dino.

Yeah, definitely need a picnic.

And maybe we should burn some shoes?
Just to be on the safe side?

 

[cusefan88]

Little more complicated.

As kcsu posted, there are alums involved who love the school, played for the football team and want what’s right. They are also very connected with other alums who also want what’s right. It’s never just one person. You want everyone involved rowing in the right direction.

This goes beyond just one AD candidate and getting their person or not. Easy to simplify it on a message board to folks vs the Lally’s but there was a lot more going on behind the scenes. The leadership vacuum at the school transitioning several major roles didn’t help. And trying to force a terrible candidate in Lyke on everyone else was bizarre.

School should have been more on top of NIL stuff. orange united was a disaster and the organization in charge went bankrupt. It’s harder and harder to support the school when they continue to make their own foolish mistakes.

Do you think all the factions will give the new AD a chance to broker peace because he's new and an outsider? He has no loyalty or ties. Can be impartial to an extent.

 

[Cusefan0307]

I liked the Haynie pick, but this thread reads like the Lally’s may have corrupted him too. Why else would he not get along with JW. It would appear JW listened to everyone and didn’t bow to the Lallys when they asked. Probably a big reason he was ultimately forced out. Also surprised no one mentioned that AW initially leaving was spearheaded by the Lallys with KS as cover.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

 

[rrlbees]

It’s because of the foolishness of the “fans”.

honestly, that's a bs statement. it's akin to blaming the fans for all the chaos.