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AP (23) / Coaches (25) Polls for Dec 1

It matters little, but still ridiculous. We literally played one game against a team that ended with a losing record (Stanford). We won 5 games aginst teams with winning records and 3 6-6 teams.

Meanwhile, Illinois won 2 games against teams with a winning record.

And don't get me started on UNLV. We literally beat them at their place.

Make it make sense.
 
OrlandoCuse said:
Fran getting the team ranked in both polls at the end of the regular season in his first year is quite the accomplishment. He should be up for National Coach of the Year.
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It'll probably be something ridiculous like Cignetti for all of those huge wins vs. cupcakes and mediocrity, or Clark Lea at Vandy. Did you know they beat Bama?
 
OrlandoCuse said:
Fran getting the team ranked in both polls at the end of the regular season in his first year is quite the accomplishment. He should be up for National Coach of the Year.
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At least ACC coach of the year. That though will probably go to the SMU coach.
 
Shameful but whatever. Hopefully we can use this as motivation for the bowl game.
 
OttosShoes said:
7pm Tuesday on ESPN.
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That might be a little friendlier. I could see us at 22 or 21 there

If the voters who didn't vote for us all put us at 25, we would be ranked 22 in AP.

The gap between 23/22 and 21 is fairly large
 
qdawgg said:
Driving from phoenix, to Sedona and then to Flagstaff is trippy. From a geographic standpoint.
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yes, desert, mountains, hot, cold, different terrains, multi-climate, I thought the same thing, we threw in a trip to the Grand Canyon north and south ridges for good measure. Very scenic and diverse environments. We stayed in Williams near the Canyon and it was 22 degrees when we woke up one morning. We drove down to Phoenix from Williams and it was 99 degrees in Phoenix when we arrived there in the afternoon. This was in May.
 
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Chip said:
Coaches poll should be discontinued. It’s useless and worthless.

Why would any sport let its coaches, who have no time to watch games, determine rankings?
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because the schools sports information people do it for them
 
Dinkyspond said:
yes, desert, mountains, hot, cold, different terrains, multi-climate, I thought the same thing, we threw in a trip to the Grand Canyon north and south ridges for good measure. Very scenic and diverse environments. We stayed in Williams near the Canyon and it was 22 degrees when we woke up one morning. We drove down to Phoenix from Williams and it was 99 degrees in Phoenix when we arrived there in the afternoon. This was in May.
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I did it in July, flew into phoenix but was staying in Sedona. Went up to flagstaff a couples times but one of them was on our way to the Grand Canyon. We drove from flagstaff to the northern rim, the opposite way most people go but I wanted to check out some Native American sites and the reservation. Even in July it was pretty crazy. Driving an hour and a half from Sedona with its terrain to flagstaff and halfway through the trip it just changes from desert, brown like geography was to forests/pine trees was just wild.
 
Cuseman78 said:
It matters little, but still ridiculous. We literally played one game against a team that ended with a losing record (Stanford). We won 5 games aginst teams with winning records and 3 6-6 teams.

Meanwhile, Illinois won 2 games against teams with a winning record.

And don't get me started on UNLV. We literally beat them at their place.

Make it make sense.
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We gained 89 votes for beating #6 Miami FL by 4... Illinois gained 87 votes for beating 4-8 Northwestern by 10
 
Current Sagarin. Our best OOC is #44. Our SOS thus far is 57th. That said, we only play one team in the current Top 36 and only two in the Top 40. Over half (7 teams) of our schedule is between 37th and 64th, a very very strong middle. The bottom is not bad either with only one team outside Top 100.

We only played one of the Top 4 ACC teams, but we only played one of the Bottom 5 ACC teams. We are 4-0 against teams ranked ahead of us. We lost to teams ranked 48th, 60th, and 97th. We are behind three G5 teams.

We are now 7th in the ACC, so top half. We are behind the Top 2 FCS teams. We are now 2nd in the Northeast!!!! and 1st in NY State. And we are now Top 50.

Northeastern P4s were pretty good. The 2nd worst was 60th and the worst 80th. The two worst P4s on our schedule were Cal and Stanford. They dragged down our SOS.

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5th - 12th in the ACC we only didn't play Duke. Crazy we ran through the middle going 4-2 despite playing 4 road games.


1. Notre Dame new #1, highest non B1G/SEC
2. Texas new #2, 1st SEC
3. Ohio State 1st B1G
4. Oregon 2nd B1G
5. Bama 2nd SEC
7. Penn State highest Northeastern
10. SMU 1st ACC, 2nd highest non B1G/SEC
12. Colorado 1st B12
14. Miami 2nd ACC, best on our schedule
15. Louisville 3rd ACC
17. Iowa State 2nd B12
22. Clemson 4th ACC
33. Tulane highest G5, highest AAC
35. Boise State 2nd highest G5, highest MWC
36. South Dakota State highest FCS
37. VA Tech 5th ACC, 2nd best on our schedule
42. GA Tech 6th ACC
44. UNLV 2nd MWC, best OOC we play
45. North Dakota State 2nd FCS
46. Cuse 7th ACC, 1st in NY State, 2nd in Northeast!!!
47. Memphis 2nd AAC
48. BC 8th ACC
50. Rutgers
51. Duke 9th ACC
56. West Virginia
59. NC State 10th ACC
60. Pitt 11th ACC, 2nd worst Northeastern P4
61. Louisiana 1st Sun Belt
63. Army 2nd NY State, best Service Academy
64. Cal 12th ACC, 2nd worst P4/ACC we play
65. UNC 13th ACC
66. Texas State 2nd Sun Belt
68. Washington State 1st PAC
69. Marshall
70. Navy
73. Miami OH 1st MAC
75. UVA 14th ACC
76. Ohio 2nd MAC
80. Maryland worst Northeastern P4
81. FSU 15th ACC
88. Wake 2nd worst ACC
89. Jacksonville State 1st CUSA
94. Liberty 2nd CUSA
97. Stanford worst ACC, worst P4 we play, 2nd worst FBS we play, 2nd worst P4 overall
98. UConn worst FBS we play
100. Air Force worst Service Academy
118. Buffalo worst in NY State
129. Purdue worst P4
145. Delaware
157. Temple 2nd worst Northeast
163. UMass worst Northeast
168. Holy Cross worst on our schedule
192. Tulsa 2nd worst FBS
231. Kent State worst FBS, nearly 100 FCS teams are better
262. Northwestern State 2nd worst team
263. Stetson worst team
 
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Not a lot of teams played an OOC game vs a Top 25 team at their actual place and not some "neutral" field. Funny, Boeheim got ripped for not doing so and yet the football team does it and gets zero credit for it.
 
HRE Otto IV said:
Current Sagarin. Our best OOC is #44. Our SOS thus far is 57th. That said, we only play one team in the current Top 36 and only two in the Top 40. Over half (7 teams) of our schedule is between 37th and 64th, a very very strong middle. The bottom is not bad either with only one team outside Top 100.

We only played one of the Top 4 ACC teams, but we only played one of the Bottom 5 ACC teams. We are 4-0 against teams ranked ahead of us. We lost to teams ranked 48th, 60th, and 97th. We are behind three G5 teams.

We are now 7th in the ACC, so top half. We are behind the Top 2 FCS teams. We are now 2nd in the Northeast!!!! and 1st in NY State. And we are now Top 50.

Northeastern P4s were pretty good. The 2nd worst was 60th and the worst 80th. The two worst P4s on our schedule were Cal and Stanford. They dragged down our SOS.

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5th - 12th in the ACC we only didn't play Duke. Crazy we ran through the middle going 4-2 despite playing 4 road games.


1. Notre Dame new #1, highest non B1G/SEC
2. Texas new #2, 1st SEC
3. Ohio State 1st B1G
4. Oregon 2nd B1G
5. Bama 2nd SEC
7. Penn State highest Northeastern
10. SMU 1st ACC, 2nd highest non B1G/SEC
12. Colorado 1st B12
14. Miami 2nd ACC, best on our schedule
15. Louisville 3rd ACC
17. Iowa State 2nd B12
22. Clemson 4th ACC
33. Tulane highest G5, highest AAC
35. Boise State 2nd highest G5, highest MWC
36. South Dakota State highest FCS
37. VA Tech 5th ACC, 2nd best on our schedule
42. GA Tech 6th ACC
44. UNLV 2nd MWC, best OOC we play
45. North Dakota State 2nd FCS
46. Cuse 7th ACC, 1st in NY State, 2nd in Northeast!!!
47. Memphis 2nd AAC
48. BC 8th ACC
50. Rutgers
51. Duke 9th ACC
56. West Virginia
59. NC State 10th ACC
60. Pitt 11th ACC, 2nd worst Northeastern P4
61. Louisiana 1st Sun Belt
63. Army 2nd NY State, best Service Academy
64. Cal 12th ACC, 2nd worst P4/ACC we play
65. UNC 13th ACC
66. Texas State 2nd Sun Belt
68. Washington State 1st PAC
69. Marshall
70. Navy
73. Miami OH 1st MAC
75. UVA 14th ACC
76. Ohio 2nd MAC
80. Maryland worst Northeastern P4
81. FSU 15th ACC
88. Wake 2nd worst ACC
89. Jacksonville State 1st CUSA
94. Liberty 2nd CUSA
97. Stanford worst ACC, worst P4 we play, 2nd worst FBS we play, 2nd worst P4 overall
98. UConn worst FBS we play
100. Air Force worst Service Academy
118. Buffalo worst in NY State
129. Purdue worst P4
145. Delaware
157. Temple 2nd worst Northeast
163. UMass worst Northeast
168. Holy Cross worst on our schedule
192. Tulsa 2nd worst FBS
231. Kent State worst FBS, nearly 100 FCS teams are better
262. Northwestern State 2nd worst team
263. Stetson worst team
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How is Lville 15? They're 8-4 and lost to Stanford
 
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