are any of these coaches people want going to recruit up here?

[Millhouse]

The shame is that Shafer's defensive approach and what they have been trying to do fits with a high tempo B12 style offense (this years results notwithstanding).

1. They have been working on getting a starting 22 on defense, playing almost like hockey line shifts.

2. Don't worry about total yards, worry about creating stops. When you really turn it up tempo on offense defense isn't about shut outs, it's about getting a couple of more stops than the other guy, situational defense, which Shafer has been able to do well most of the time here. Give up yards through the air, but be stout against the run on 1st and 2nd down and when you get a favorable down and distance create defensive wins through pressure. It would be a great marriage.

maybe shafer needs to go to the big 12, have some success, and get another shot at it. he seems to be a guy that suffers from availability bias. reacts too much to mcdonald's failures and goes the other direction entirely. not great at paying attention to all the trends across the country. but if he gets in the right situation, that availability bias won't hurt him, the right strategy will be the one that he's thrust into. (easy, chip)

 

[orangenirvana]

i am just wondering how many of these kids really want to come to SU to play. we are not a fball factory, most of these kids thing we suck

A young coach who has experience instructing today's college offense will have the current roster performing at a very high level.

Talent isn't nearly the issue many think it is. No one is expecting us to beat FSU or Clemson or LSU. We're expecting a HC who can manage a game and not make stupid decisions and young players to develop and improve over the course of a season - not get worse.

 

[IthacaBarrel]

The shame is that Shafer's defensive approach and what they have been trying to do fits with a high tempo B12 style offense (this years results notwithstanding).

1. They have been working on getting a starting 22 on defense, playing almost like hockey line shifts.

2. Don't worry about total yards, worry about creating stops. When you really turn it up tempo on offense defense isn't about shut outs, it's about getting a couple of more stops than the other guy, situational defense, which Shafer has been able to do well most of the time here. Give up yards through the air, but be stout against the run on 1st and 2nd down and when you get a favorable down and distance create defensive wins through pressure. It would be a great marriage.

Yes, the modern era of college football other than factory schools and bad ACC teams is where we need to be. Giving up 28-31 points should not be a death blow. I think my pop warner football team got more plays in than Lester's offense in 1/2 the time. It's flat out painful to watch.

 

[GoSU96]

maybe shafer needs to go to the big 12, have some success, and get another shot at it. he seems to be a guy that suffers from availability bias. reacts too much to mcdonald's failures and goes the other direction entirely. not great at paying attention to all the trends across the country. but if he gets in the right situation, that availability bias won't hurt him, the right strategy will be the one that he's thrust into. (easy, chip)

Texas Tech could use the help.

 

[PhatOrange]

If you can convince kids to go to Boise Idaho...

JUCO - 16

Californian – 44

Idaho - 20

Texas – 15

Florida – 5

Arizona – 5

Utah – 3

Washington - 2

Kansas – 1

Alabama – 1

Oregon – 1

NC – 1

Nevada – 1

Maryland – 1

Louisiana – 1

Minnesota – 1

England – 1

Somoa – 1

Many of the (1’s) are Jucos.

 

[Millhouse]

Texas Tech could use the help.

it might make him so miserable. "i don't need this , i'm already rich"

 

[PhatOrange]

If you can convince kids to go to Boise Idaho...

When you guys actually go look at the rosters of all the coaches you love, tell me what the common theme is.

So since our home state is not fertile, we have to go to where the kids are. A guy who’s spent his whole life coaching on the West Coast (or in Texas) is not going to get those kids to Syracuse. Can he go down to the Southeast and recruit? Sure he can, in due time (but will people be that patient?)

I’d rather we cut past the ‘cultivation’ phase and hire a guy who’s been recruiting the Eastern Seaboard and the Southeast his entire career.

This is particularly true if you're going to hire a guy with not much name recognition.

 

[Full_Rebar]

It's not about the HC as much as the recruiters. If we are worried about recruiting the East as the top priority, hire Schiano since NJ and FL love him.

I'd rather find someone with an offensive system that sells itself and the ability to hire a staff with D1 experience.

If you sat down 100 3 star recruits and had them watch 2015 tape of Syracuse/Temple/Bowling Green/Toledo and asked them which system looked like one they wanted to play in, how many would still choose Syracuse?

 

[skytop44]

If you can convince kids to go to Boise Idaho...

It's a little easier when you're from there and played at the school. Big difference in selling something IMO.