Big announcement at 1 pm today: Hop to Washington

[cuse10]

Interesting to see where SU goes from here. Don't see Hopkins bolting Seattle for SU if he has success out West. He was tired of waiting. Who can blame him? Who does SU go after for lead assistant? I don't think Autry and G-Mac are ready for that role yet, plus they need a lead recruiter which Hop was. A messy situation.

 

[OrlandoCuse]

I think I am relaxed. This is a pretty big development and it seems Boeheim is torpedoing this program with his decision making as a Head Coach and in regards to staying on as Head Coach.

It's time to move on. I'm of the mind set that delaying the inevitable will begin to immensely hurt the program more than it already has.

Wait, our top assistant just left to take a P5 job and you're using that as a signal our program is in trouble and the HC should retire immediately? And you think you're relaxed with that thought process?

I really hope you aren't tasked with strategic decision making in your current job.

 

[longislandcuse]

I have it on good authority JB is coaching atleast 2 more years.
He needs to get off his a$$ for 2018 recruiting.
JB isn't retiring.

What the **** is the point of this? This is really aggravating.

 

[81South]

there is only one Pitino. I honestly believe that if he had stayed at Kentucky, he would be considered the greatest college hoop coach of all time.

I think junior pitino is a viable option

 

[Alsacs]

I just don't get why JB is doing this. He is hurting the program more by staying in my opinion I don't know what to think

No good coach will touch our job while we are on probation.
Let JB stay on and shepherd these next 2 years and get a national search after that.

I am glad we got a clean break from Hop though. Last year was not confidence inducing. Good luck out west take GMac and kill it out there.

 

[Scooch]

I wasn't sure if Hopkins was going to be the solution when JB retired, but this is a much worse situation. JB clearly doesn't want to put in the crazy hours to run the day to day or to recruit first-hand. Unless we have a big time outsider waiting to take the job...we're in bad bad bad shape.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

you're right. honestly i'm not sure about that part. could be someone that was in the works? are we after anyone from Toronto?

There are a bunch of kids that are currently being recruited for 2018 and 2019. But since we haven't received any verbal commitments, we can't lose what we don't have.

 

[Cuse'91]

 

[longislandcuse]

Wait, our top assistant just left to take a P5 job and you're using that as a signal our program is in trouble and the HC should retire immediately? And you think you're relaxed with that thought process?

I really hope you aren't tasked with strategic decision making in your current job.

I'm not a big fan of JB so there's a lot more that goes into my thought process than being reactionary over today's development.

Add this to everything else and yes, it's becoming a big problem.

 

[FrancoPizza]

I could see renegotiating JB's timeline if, say, he made back-to-back final fours or something along those lines... but with the current trajectory any contract extension for JB will show that Wildhack can get bossed around. Hop leaving shouldn't suddenly be an excuse to kick the cans down the road a few more years.

 

[two3zone]

Or maybe he was told that we aren't honoring the contract? Or he read the tea leaves? Or he was left off Wildhack's Christmas card list?

I don't recall you being one of the people who wanted Hop to get his shot. So this is surprising from you.

This is a good thing long term. Maybe the next couple years will be tough. But ultimately this is good.

I didn't really have an opinion about it but thought he earned the chance.

My biggest thing about this is he left when he was set up for the job, not 5 years from now, not 4, but 1.

This is a big deal. If we're having trouble recruiting now, what's next? We don't know who the next coach is, and we have zero continuity (unless it's Gmac or Red).

I guess I don't understand why others don't see this as a huge and possibly devastating news.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

From what I was told Gmac and Hart will be on his staff next season

Doesn't Hop know that having an All-Alumni coaching staff never works.

 

[Cusefan0307]

I'll bet that we have new assistant coaches in place by September.

So nobody recruiting all summer. Awesome.

 

[Alsacs]

Then why in the hell would Gerry leave?

He wants to be with Hop would be my guess. Maybe JB will make the recruiting changes we need.

 

[kirbivore]

All I was told was a big announcement was coming at 1 pm. Going offline for 90 minutes - we'll found out shortly if my source is correct.

going dark?

 

[Toga]

JB was told that Hop was going to be the coach after next season. Hop got a great offer and was able to get away from Jb and all that goes with him. Good and bad.

Except that doesn't explain Hop's diminished effort on the recruiting trail.

 

[Capt. Tuttle]

"He wants to build a legacy, felt like the opportunity was special at Washington, and also wanted to make sure he did right by his mentor and father figure, Jim Boeheim," a source close to situation told Goodman.

How does leaving now for the HC at Washington "do right" by his "mentor?" The answer to that question should give us a clue as to the new succession plan.

Not forcing him to leave.

 

[anomander]

There are a bunch of kids that are currently being recruited for 2018 and 2019. But since we haven't received any verbal commitments, we can't lose what we don't have.

Bad wording. My fault.

Regardless, JB seems miserable. I was hoping this would be a smooth transition, but it is looking like it will be anything but. Some really distressing stuff.

 

[jdubs30]

Then why in the hell would Gerry leave?

Because when JB leaves, Gerry probably has no job - the new guy would hire his own assistants. He would have had a job if Hop was the next HC.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

So nobody recruiting all summer. Awesome.

The other poster was worried about practice.

If it makes you feel better, we'll have new assistants in place in a few weeks.

 

[cliftonparksufan]

No good coach will touch our job while we are on probation.
Let JB stay on and shepherd these next 2 years and get a national search after that.

I am glad we got a clean break from Hop though. Last year was not confidence inducing. Good out west take GMac and kill it out there.

Our probation is basically over at this point. By the time anyone comes in we will be back to full strength. I don't disagree with your other points but you never know.

 

[llandz]

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[supp]

Wait, our top assistant just left to take a P5 job and you're using that as a signal our program is in trouble and the HC should retire immediately? And you think you're relaxed with that thought process?

I really hope you aren't tasked with strategic decision making in your current job.

By the same token, I can't imagine that all this was part of anyone's plan. I'd like to give Boeheim the benefit of the doubt but I also know that when folks are heavily invested in something, it can be awful hard to let go. It's hard to pretend that everything is peachy keen on the hill.

 

[Scotch]

This is a joke. We're not a selector school in any aspect.

Yes we are.

 

[kirbivore]

In fact, once JB retires, I bet there's a total overhaul.

That's what I want. No family. Clean house.