Brent vs Jim interview

[Nicknack]

Buddy’s minutes are high. Joe’s have dropped and Kadary’s have risen. Woody and Bras look good but Guerrier and Griffin are hard to play over.

There’s no minutes distribution Tetris that appreciably improves the team on the court. We need a Center and don’t have one with two fully functional knees. Jesse could play a tad more, but he has looked less than stellar more often than he’s looked capable.

Buddy doesn’t need the SF minutes unless he and Joe are hot. Kadary is getting 25, Joe’s around 25, so that’s 30 for Buddy. Maybe fudge with it a little to get it to 30, 20, 30. That would placate the fans but probably not do anything for our record. Who starts is inconsequential. We’re not losing games because the starters dig a hole or don’t build leads.

If Buddy isn’t playing SF, assuming Marek is still the Center, there should be 15 minutes for Woody and Bras to share. Give them those minutes.

Give Jesse a few minutes each half at Center. If he misses an assignment or doesn’t send a 6-foot guard’s layup 4 rows deep, pull him and ride it out with the European, but give him the chance.

Again, I think this would placate the fans more so than anything else. I don’t think Jim cares about placating the fans. We’d still lose games and they’d find something else to complain about, just louder than they were complaining before.

I agree with much that you stated here but not on the fact that it doesn't matter who starts. Actually, I really disagree with that. There are reasons that coaches start their best five. You don't want to have to keep putting a player in the game when we're already down. That might work at times but you're really setting that player up for failure (or a greater challenge at the very least).

Why not start the only true PG on the team and one of our best players? Let's get into a rhythm and hopefully a lead. Instead, Joe starts and comes out usually when we need something else to happen. I'd rather it be just the opposite with Kadary.

 

[Jake]

Adam schein wouldnt have been intimidated neither would Danny Parkins shame on the local station at the time for letting him getaway. I like Axe but when it comes to JB Axe is like a jellyfish.

Lol. It’s not the local stations fault.

 

[Jake]

Pay him more to stay. Also the non sports radio here locally lost Jim Reith our drive time radio guy left bout the same time. Now we have a guy named snozzberry on local 570 afternoons and local sports radio got the Manchild and his lap dog boy green who only got the job because he was a student of manchild and was his teachers pet. Then we got some nobody with the show call the sportszilla show on the other station between orange nation and axe.

Your understanding of the media business is less than zero. You don’t just “pay them more money”.

 

[Brooky03]

I agree with much that you stated here but not on the fact that it doesn't matter who starts. Actually, I really disagree with that. There are reasons that coaches start their best five. You don't want to have to keep putting a player in the game when we're already down. That might work at times but you're really setting that player up for failure (or a greater challenge at the very least).

Why not start the only true PG on the team and one of our best players? Let's get into a rhythm and hopefully a lead. Instead, Joe starts and comes out usually when we need something else to happen. I'd rather it be just the opposite with Kadary.

If this team had an issue starting games, I’d agree with you. I don’t think they do.

I like Kadary in the Dion Waiters role. Girard is not a natural PG but he’s not r******d either. His assist numbers are pretty good and he doesn’t turn the ball over often.

There’s a psychological component to taking a veteran starters role away, especially mid season, that I think gets glossed over. And it’s not just something that affects the veteran losing his job. I would prefer that to be something done at the start of the season; something for next year. Doing it right now just doesn’t help in anyway that I can see.

 

[Funk Doc]

When you say that some don't like Joe as much as others, I'm not sure that's really true. What some don't like is how many minutes he gets. Others (like you and me) don't like him in the PG role. There are also some (including myself) that don't believe he should start. Those are all things that Boeheim is responsible for, not Joe.

Think about it, if Joe came off the bench and was used in limited minutes, I believe he could be a favorite. There is much to Joe to like. I just don't like how he's being utilized which has nothing to do with him personally.

This has been my thoughts since Joe arrived. I also like him as a player, but right now he's a square peg being put into a round hole. He's most definitely not a point. If he got to move off the ball with Kadary and then run him around screens to get open catch a shoot opportunities, he could be a great bench scorer. Basically what we did with Trevor for most of his career(yes I know...he was a much better defender...just talking offense here).

 

[Jake]

Steals are such an overrated and often misleading defensive stat. You can intercept a few passing lanes per game and rack up steals while consistently not being able to guard someone in front of you. Perfect example is GMac who led the team in steals 3 out of 4 years but could never keep athletic guards like Marcus Williams in front of him.

Horrible stat. If Kadary deflects a ball that ends up in Marek’s hands, guess who gets the steal and it’s not the defender who made the play.

 

[SWC75]

On the whole I thought it was a balaced interview. Boeheim clearly took some responsibility for some of the shortcomings that the team has exhibited. Adn to be fair he said Kadary can't play 35-40 minutes now but he will get there. He talked about the lack of a full pre-season conditioning program and disrupted practice schedules as being contributing factors. That's when he called out that Kadary was working harder than he ever has in his life. He clearly defended Girard from criticism. JB has always been loyal to players and assistants almost to a fault. What struck me was how tuned in he is to call in shows and intenet comments. He clearly reads and listens way too much. The one thing that struck me about Axe's defense was when they talked about being rude to reporters. Axe mentioned people don;t see Jim reach out after press conferences to explain things in depth when he seems to be dismissive of questions.

The fact that he feels the need to apologize suggests that he recognizes that he was rude.

 

[SWC75]

Meanwhile I'm enjoying my 80 degree temp in Tampa this afternoon. Just so much that I'll be out on the course in a couple of hours.

Enjoy Tampa while it's still there.

 

[690West]

Meanwhile I'm enjoying my 80 degree temp in Tampa this afternoon. Just so much that I'll be out on the course in a couple of hours.

Don't forget to write the Hurricane insurance premium check before leaving the house.

 

[bigmike]

I think its a combination of all three things.
-recruiting has dropped off significantly
-most of our offense is predicated on relatively unathletic players having to simply create their own offense one on one
-minutes distribution is highly questionable

Could not agree more. I would add (which I think follow your point #’s 1 & 2) that the lack of a low post scoring presence takes what I think the team has in abundance (good catch and shoot players) and has turned them into iso (beat your man off the dribble) players - and they are simply not equipped for that.

BB and JG both would benefit from a Rick Jackson or Arinze down low. Unfortunately, those guys don’t come along every day.

 

[SWC75]

Buddy’s minutes are high. Joe’s have dropped and Kadary’s have risen. Woody and Bras look good but Guerrier and Griffin are hard to play over.

There’s no minutes distribution Tetris that appreciably improves the team on the court. We need a Center and don’t have one with two fully functional knees. Jesse could play a tad more, but he has looked less than stellar more often than he’s looked capable.

Buddy doesn’t need the SF minutes unless he and Joe are hot. Kadary is getting 25, Joe’s around 25, so that’s 30 for Buddy. Maybe fudge with it a little to get it to 30, 20, 30. That would placate the fans but probably not do anything for our record. Who starts is inconsequential. We’re not losing games because the starters dig a hole or don’t build leads.

If Buddy isn’t playing SF, assuming Marek is still the Center, there should be 15 minutes for Woody and Bras to share. Give them those minutes.

Give Jesse a few minutes each half at Center. If he misses an assignment or doesn’t send a 6-foot guard’s layup 4 rows deep, pull him and ride it out with the European, but give him the chance.

Again, I think this would placate the fans more so than anything else. I don’t think Jim cares about placating the fans. We’d still lose games and they’d find something else to complain about, just louder than they were complaining before.

Remember when Jim would start a young big man for 5 minutes than then pull him?

 

[SWC75]

I agree with much that you stated here but not on the fact that it doesn't matter who starts. Actually, I really disagree with that. There are reasons that coaches start their best five. You don't want to have to keep putting a player in the game when we're already down. That might work at times but you're really setting that player up for failure (or a greater challenge at the very least).

Why not start the only true PG on the team and one of our best players? Let's get into a rhythm and hopefully a lead. Instead, Joe starts and comes out usually when we need something else to happen. I'd rather it be just the opposite with Kadary.

if you have three guards and two of them are specialists, why not have the combo guard come off the bench to back up both of them?

 

[SWC75]

Could not agree more. I would add (which I think follow your point #’s 1 & 2) that the lack of a low post scoring presence takes what I think the team has in abundance (good catch and shoot players) and has turned them into iso (beat your man off the dribble) players - and they are simply not equipped for that.

BB and JG both would benefit from a Rick Jackson or Arinze down low. Unfortunately, those guys don’t come along every day.

They don't come here, anyway.

 

[DoctorBombay]

Buddy’s minutes are high. Joe’s have dropped and Kadary’s have risen. Woody and Bras look good but Guerrier and Griffin are hard to play over.

There’s no minutes distribution Tetris that appreciably improves the team on the court. We need a Center and don’t have one with two fully functional knees. Jesse could play a tad more, but he has looked less than stellar more often than he’s looked capable.

Buddy doesn’t need the SF minutes unless he and Joe are hot. Kadary is getting 25, Joe’s around 25, so that’s 30 for Buddy. Maybe fudge with it a little to get it to 30, 20, 30. That would placate the fans but probably not do anything for our record. Who starts is inconsequential. We’re not losing games because the starters dig a hole or don’t build leads.

If Buddy isn’t playing SF, assuming Marek is still the Center, there should be 15 minutes for Woody and Bras to share. Give them those minutes.

Give Jesse a few minutes each half at Center. If he misses an assignment or doesn’t send a 6-foot guard’s layup 4 rows deep, pull him and ride it out with the European, but give him the chance.

Again, I think this would placate the fans more so than anything else. I don’t think Jim cares about placating the fans. We’d still lose games and they’d find something else to complain about, just louder than they were complaining before.

All good points- some i agree w/ more than others. What gets my goat is the overall lack of flexibility depending on changes in circumstances.
The point about Jesse for instance; why haven’t we seen him in 5 games, especially after he played well vs Miami? He faltered that one time afterwards & is now banished to the bench until further notice?
Or Bras, who hits 4 key treys in a game...and is relegated to spot duty, until further notice?
Or Woody, and Kadary, who’s only seeing regular time now because there was seemingly no other choice, since everyone- fans, announcers, ex-players, etc. were pointing out the obvious...that the kid should be playing more.
Finally, the hypocrisy of the Buddy situation gets me heated too. He hasn’t always played well...but he’s always played, regardless- something that other players haven’t had the luxury of saying.

 

[kcsu]

When you say that some don't like Joe as much as others, I'm not sure that's really true. What some don't like is how many minutes he gets. Others (like you and me) don't like him in the PG role. There are also some (including myself) that don't believe he should start. Those are all things that Boeheim is responsible for, not Joe.

Think about it, if Joe came off the bench and was used in limited minutes, I believe he could be a favorite. There is much to Joe to like. I just don't like how he's being utilized which has nothing to do with him personally.

My comment had nothing to with him as a person or his eating habits only as a player.
As a player i think he could be a solid 2. He will never be an ACC level PG. His game is one dimensional. Hes a shooter. He isnt able to penetrate, hes not a good defense player, he doesn't rebound, his handle is average. Hes a nice player who can shoot lights in streaks.

 

[Brooky03]

My comment had nothing to with him as a person or his eating habits only as a player.
As a player i think he could be a solid 2. He will never be an ACC level PG. His game is one dimensional. Hes a shooter. He isnt able to penetrate, hes not a good defense player, he doesn't rebound, his handle is average. Hes a nice player who can shoot lights in streaks.

Was GMac a Big East level PG? Same size as Joe. Joe is the better athlete. Handle isn’t appreciably different. Court vision and passing aren’t appreciably different. Defensive ability isn’t appreciably different. GMac shot better.

 

[OrangeDW]

Was GMac a Big East level PG? Same size as Joe. Joe is the better athlete. Handle isn’t appreciably different. Court vision and passing aren’t appreciably different. Defensive ability isn’t appreciably different. GMac shot better.

I think you need to go rewatch some GMac. I did the other day when that 03 ND game was on. He was all over the court, and could go by people.

IMO he at least looked a little taller than Joe. Definitely quicker, better handle, and basically at least moderately better at probably every skill.

You’re talking about probably a top 5 SU PG of all time like he’s the same as Girard? Cmon.

 

[Eric15]

I think you need to go rewatch some GMac. I did the other day when that 03 ND game was on. He was all over the court, and could go by people.

IMO he at least looked a little taller than Joe. Definitely quicker, better handle, and basically at least moderately better at probably every skill.

You’re talking about probably a top 5 SU PG of all time like he’s the same as Girard? Cmon.

Yeah if you watch a lot of those 2006 BET games GMac scored in the lane with floaters with regularity.

 

[bigmike]

They don't come here, anyway.

My kingdom for a baby hook, and a kick out off a double down low.

 

[djcon57]

I think you need to go rewatch some GMac. I did the other day when that 03 ND game was on. He was all over the court, and could go by people.

IMO he at least looked a little taller than Joe. Definitely quicker, better handle, and basically at least moderately better at probably every skill.

You’re talking about probably a top 5 SU PG of all time like he’s the same as Girard? Cmon.

Yeah if you watch a lot of those 2006 BET games GMac scored in the lane with floaters with regularity.

...and the passing isn’t close. again, watch some of the 2006 bet games. Some of the moves are closer to a Kadary than Joe

 

[OrangeDW]

...and the passing isn’t close. again, watch some of the 2006 bet games. Some of the moves are closer to a Kadary than Joe

Given the circumstances, his pass to Devendorf for the game winning layup against Georgetown might be the best pass in SU history?

 

[Dinkyspond]

Remember when Jim would start a young big man for 5 minutes than then pull him?

Both Rak and Fab suffered this fate. Rak turned into a superstar by his senior year but his first few years he got the early hook. This happened to Fab his whole frosh season but not as a soph. He was great as a soph.

 

[OrangeDW]

Both Rak and Fab suffered this fate. Rak turned into a superstar by his senior year but his first few years he got the early hook. This happened to Fab his whole frosh season but not as a soph. He was great as a soph.

gotta assume Fab, Rak, and DaJuan Coleman all had “you’ll start as a freshman” recruiting promises made to them, because they were all token starters that first year.

 

[Dinkyspond]

gotta assume Fab, Rak, and DaJuan Coleman all had “you’ll start as a freshman” recruiting promises made to them, because they were all token starters that first year.

yes, i forgot about Dajuan. He's another who got the quick hook.

 

[Brooky03]

I think you need to go rewatch some GMac. I did the other day when that 03 ND game was on. He was all over the court, and could go by people.

IMO he at least looked a little taller than Joe. Definitely quicker, better handle, and basically at least moderately better at probably every skill.

You’re talking about probably a top 5 SU PG of all time like he’s the same as Girard? Cmon.

If GMac is taller, it’s by like a half inch. You might think he looked quicker, I don’t. Joe is the more athletic one from what I’ve seen. Dunking is hardly the end all and be all of athleticism, but Joe can dunk in ideal circumstances (barely). In ideal circumstances, GMac could not. Not scientific, but at least as good as “idk, I saw GMac move around a lot.”

GMac’s handle was maybe a little better, but not appreciably. Statistically, he didn’t protect the ball any better than Joe does. GMac was not getting by defenders with any regularity and Joe isn’t wholly incapable of dribbling by defenders.