BTW, if you haven't noticed, Cohen is gone
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The Post Standard should hire a homer or at least get someone passionate about SU and the football program to replace him. The "just the facts/I'm neutral" model of journalism is boring and dying. I much prefer commentary here than garden-variety "who/what/when/where" game stories. Being passionate doesn't mean the writer can't be critical. Some of the best sports "homerism" is about commiserating over a defeat. What's need is a writer who exudes passion for SU football, who knows the history and has seen the games. Most of their readers are going to be die-hards anyway at this point. Please don't hire someone who reports on SU football like they are dispassionately observing a lab experiment.
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I disliked him, because I strongly suspect that he dislikes Syracuse football.
I think he predicted losses every single week, except for when he predicted Cuse to "struggle" with Wagner and Tulane.
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Totally agree... so why the ... did they boot out Dave Rahme? He met all the criteria you described above. I know, I know--we are on the same page, bro! Post Sub-Standard has chosen the road they want to go down. 'ck em!
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Memphis could use a good journo.
They got Cohen.
They got Cohen.
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Hi to all. I have been watching this forum for a few years before deciding to comment. I was once an avid follower, and poster at the Post Standards forum. However, I had to give up on that forum because of what I perceived as an epidemic of ignorance and hatred from posters. I can tell that the forum administrators here are doing a much better job at weeding out the imbeciles that spew their anger toward SU sports and others who disagree with them. To the moderators and administrators, keep up the good work. Now, I feel it necessary to comment on this thread re: the journalistic abilities at Syracuse.com, and the Post Standard.
I go back to the days of watching Ernie Davis play football, and Dave Bing play basketball. Those were the days when a writer had to pay his dues before getting a quality job at a major news organization. He or she had to cut their teeth writing obits, or classified adds. It was a time when beat writers actually understood the sport they were covering, and the team they wrote about. It was also a time when the newspapers of large cities cared more about the product they put on the street, than the amount of revenue they brought in. They knew that if the product was there, the people would follow. Back in the day, the major Syracuse news paper was the Herald-Journal, and the Herald-American on Sundays. They were quality products admired by many in the world of journalism. Then in the early 80’s things began to change. It was a time when journalism in Syracuse took a dive, especially sports reporting. That was the time when legendary sports editor for the above newspapers, Arnie Burdick retired.
Journalism, and that includes sports journalism, used to be taken seriously by journalists and beat writers. Back in the day, news reporting outweighed opinions. People had always relied on journalists to tell them what was going on in the world, whether it was sports reporting or world events. If we wanted opinions we would ask our friends, family members, or our barber. Arnie Burdick gave us the news about SU sports in a way that made you want to keep reading. He wrote his articles with passion, honesty, and a sense of caution so as to not offend anyone. His old school, journalistic approach kept his readers wanting more. In 1984 he retired. Shortly after Arnie’s retirement the Herald News died, and the Post Standard became Syracuse’s paper. Since then, the quality of the news via the newspaper in Syracuse, has dropped below the freezing point. I’m not the only one stating this either. How many times have we heard the Post Standard being called The Sub Standard? There is a reason for that. And the reason is, people want the news, not opinions. Unfortunately, the Syracuse.com website, and the newspaper are now a mirror image of journalism in America today. Sorry, I don’t want to hear the BS that journalism has changed because of the Internet. News reporting should be news reporting no matter how you cut it. Sports reporting “should be reported“, no matter what venue you use to write it. Opinions should be left for the opinion page, that’s why news outlets have an opinion page. If I want opinions about my sports teams, I will visit a sports forum.
The Post Standard’s quality of sports journalism is like a snowball rolling downhill. And the snowball is nearing the bottom. Unfortunately, this is not just a local problem but a problem with journalism across America. Don’t believe me? Sign into some of the major news media forums and read the comments being left by people. They want news, not opinions.
I’m sure I will offend those of you who are journalists, however, the problem with journalism today is not the Internet, or the merging of news media giants, or some other ridiculous claim. The problem with journalism today, whether it is reporting the news or world events is this. Journalism schools are turning out young grads who would rather write opinion based pieces than report the news. Colleges today are not teaching, they are indoctrinating. In most cases, college students are sitting in classes being lectured by professors who would rather make a point, than show students how to do research for an article, or how to formulate information into a newsworthy piece. By the time the young journalist is ready for his or her first job, the only experience they have is how to make an opinion.
My son often says to me. “Dad. Stop living in the 1950’s and 60’s. Things change.” I agree, things do change, and to a point I’m okay with that. But not when it comes to me wanting the news instead of an opinion, especially when I want SU sports news. If I want a sports opinion I’ll watch Monday Night Football. If I want sports news…
Arnie Burdick, I miss your articles.
http://www.syracuse.com/poliquin/index.ssf/2012/06/poliquin_arnie_burdick_who_die.html
I go back to the days of watching Ernie Davis play football, and Dave Bing play basketball. Those were the days when a writer had to pay his dues before getting a quality job at a major news organization. He or she had to cut their teeth writing obits, or classified adds. It was a time when beat writers actually understood the sport they were covering, and the team they wrote about. It was also a time when the newspapers of large cities cared more about the product they put on the street, than the amount of revenue they brought in. They knew that if the product was there, the people would follow. Back in the day, the major Syracuse news paper was the Herald-Journal, and the Herald-American on Sundays. They were quality products admired by many in the world of journalism. Then in the early 80’s things began to change. It was a time when journalism in Syracuse took a dive, especially sports reporting. That was the time when legendary sports editor for the above newspapers, Arnie Burdick retired.
Journalism, and that includes sports journalism, used to be taken seriously by journalists and beat writers. Back in the day, news reporting outweighed opinions. People had always relied on journalists to tell them what was going on in the world, whether it was sports reporting or world events. If we wanted opinions we would ask our friends, family members, or our barber. Arnie Burdick gave us the news about SU sports in a way that made you want to keep reading. He wrote his articles with passion, honesty, and a sense of caution so as to not offend anyone. His old school, journalistic approach kept his readers wanting more. In 1984 he retired. Shortly after Arnie’s retirement the Herald News died, and the Post Standard became Syracuse’s paper. Since then, the quality of the news via the newspaper in Syracuse, has dropped below the freezing point. I’m not the only one stating this either. How many times have we heard the Post Standard being called The Sub Standard? There is a reason for that. And the reason is, people want the news, not opinions. Unfortunately, the Syracuse.com website, and the newspaper are now a mirror image of journalism in America today. Sorry, I don’t want to hear the BS that journalism has changed because of the Internet. News reporting should be news reporting no matter how you cut it. Sports reporting “should be reported“, no matter what venue you use to write it. Opinions should be left for the opinion page, that’s why news outlets have an opinion page. If I want opinions about my sports teams, I will visit a sports forum.
The Post Standard’s quality of sports journalism is like a snowball rolling downhill. And the snowball is nearing the bottom. Unfortunately, this is not just a local problem but a problem with journalism across America. Don’t believe me? Sign into some of the major news media forums and read the comments being left by people. They want news, not opinions.
I’m sure I will offend those of you who are journalists, however, the problem with journalism today is not the Internet, or the merging of news media giants, or some other ridiculous claim. The problem with journalism today, whether it is reporting the news or world events is this. Journalism schools are turning out young grads who would rather write opinion based pieces than report the news. Colleges today are not teaching, they are indoctrinating. In most cases, college students are sitting in classes being lectured by professors who would rather make a point, than show students how to do research for an article, or how to formulate information into a newsworthy piece. By the time the young journalist is ready for his or her first job, the only experience they have is how to make an opinion.
My son often says to me. “Dad. Stop living in the 1950’s and 60’s. Things change.” I agree, things do change, and to a point I’m okay with that. But not when it comes to me wanting the news instead of an opinion, especially when I want SU sports news. If I want a sports opinion I’ll watch Monday Night Football. If I want sports news…
Arnie Burdick, I miss your articles.
http://www.syracuse.com/poliquin/index.ssf/2012/06/poliquin_arnie_burdick_who_die.html
