And that's a big thing. It's not like he was given a year or two and let go w/o a fair chance to right himself. He was given a long leash. I hate putting down Hop because he appeared to be an awesome human being when I met him and I get why certain people (Melo etc.) are smitten with him. This just wouldn't make any sense-I don't know what qualifies him for the job other than he's an awesome guy.
Thats a very SU answer
It's not even just the fans in Syracuse. I'm not local anymore and have passed the last 5 years of traveling back for a February home game when my full intention was to go to one in November. We just can't put together consistency to really gain trust of the product to invest a weekend to come back. People forget how large the fan base is outside of Syracuse that will jump right back on by filling arenas close to home when Syracuse plays there and to travel back for weekends, staying in the hotels and contributing to the local economy.
This is just me, but I’ll be much more patient with BH than I would MH. Especially if the entire reason we hire MH is because of an initial funding infusion. BH needs to build an infrastructure. In reality that’s what the program needs. What MH brings is temporary and we have a bunch of evidence at our fingertips that show it probably won’t work.
lol I’m sure he could figure it out
is it wrong?
Can we please get away with this obsession with an all guard assistant coaching staff?
I know I've said the biggest obstacle for him is to be converting the exclusionary types that won't even give initial acceptance to him because he isn't a former Syracuse player and assistant coach. They are a minority, but also likely more influential when it comes to the power structure than their size, but they donate money. I used to trust it blindly. Not anymore. That social contract is on thin ice with this hire.
lol you got to be trolling.
Unproven but successful is a no brainer.
I used to follow this writer, Max Vrooman (lol), from the Washington Huskies fan site regularly during Hop’s tenure there. He’s very adept with analytics and data, and he became highly critical of Hop as the years went on. The data is horrendous on Hop as a head coach. Everyone should read these posts, but a few choice quotes:
“My model had the Huskies projected for an adjusted efficiency margin of +16.6 this year which would’ve been the best team of the Mike Hopkins era. That’s because on paper this roster had the most talent of any Hop team, even the one that made the NCAA tournament….Washington would’ve been even higher if not for that pesky little problem of Mike Hopkins being the coach. Hopkins entered the year with the lowest coaching grade in my system of any P6 coach that had more than 2 years experience….That would’ve been good for 57th among P6 schools…Yet as has almost always been the case during the Mike Hopkins era, Washington ended up worse than even the full coaching adjustment would’ve suggested. The Huskies finished with an aEM of +13.0 and ranked 48th among P6 schools (and 60th including mid-majors). That cemented that Hopkins would finish with a negative coaching grade in all 7 of his season with the Huskies.”
Assessing the Mike Hopkins Conundrum
Should the Husky head man be retained despite 2 years of disappointing results?www.uwdawgpound.com
Revisiting UWDP Men’s Basketball Team Projections
Taking a look at which teams my model correctly pegged in the preseason
You are correct to point out that it is top 5 still, but we were not spoiled by those huge numbers. That is just a sign of the absolute boatload of attendance we have left on the table with this horrible low quality product in recent years. The fans overall have not left because college basketball has changed, or the city has changed. They have left almost entirely because the product has been terrible. If there were external factors outside of the performance on the court that lead to the attendance drop, then maybe being spoiled by the old days would be the way to describe it. But the attendance drop is almost entirely due to the low quality product. We can literally get right back there with a quality coach and a couple higher quality seasons. It is not something that would only be possible in an older era, it is possible right now.
Very much this. There’s a significant trend of guys coming from non P4 conferences that have totally turned things around, almost instantly, at their new job.
Well said. I'm not sure why we even went with Autry when we could've just had Jimmy Boeheim coach after he graduated. Then by the time he retires his kid will be ready to take over the reins and on and on.
Someone in this thread finally making sense.
