Coach Search Options after Autry

[Cusefan78]

So would it be an accurate description to say the Melo / Hopkins plan is to basically install Hop as like a GM / recruiter and we hope that the portal talent we get is just so far ahead the competition that we don’t need an offense or a gameday coach. Rely on the assistants and players to just figure out what works.

Then on the other side of the fence we have the new blood in BH. Better at everything across the board as a HC but more of a wildcard and less donor support upfront.

My worry if it’s the hop route, where does the money come from after his son is done at su. The 30 million figure I heard he’s offering won’t last long. Can hop raise big money yearly? With hodgson at least we get a guy than a turn around a program. I’m also worried that Hopkins east coast contacts being dried up. He’s been gone for a long time. I think hodgson is much safer bet.

 

[orangepassion]

The best of both worlds would be Hodgson as HC and give HOP a promotion from where he is now to associate HC. Don't know if Hodgson would go for it, but if he would, tons of support and an excellent Head Coach.

 

[kingtidge]

My worry if it’s the hop route, where does the money come from after his son is done at su. The 30 million figure I heard he’s offering won’t last long. Can hop raise big money yearly? With hodgson at least we get a guy than a turn around a program. I’m also worried that Hopkins east coast contacts being dried up. He’s been gone for a long time. I think hodgson is much safer bet.

The approach is so short-sighted, it really is morbidly comical...

I PRAY this is all being floated as a litmus test for the fanbase to gauge reaction first for the final decision...

I FEAR that they could really care less about what the fans think and that they can force through whomever they want and sell it to the fans regardless, later.

If so, I think that last part is gonna be a lot harder than they are planning for and the leash on Hop is going to be a 1-foot choke chain from day 1.

 

[CuseCPT]

With Melo$ connection$ he has to have a better choice than Hop. The whole thing is odd.

It’s almost like having lots of money and the interests of your child involved doesn’t guarantee good, objective decision making. Crazy!

 

[Cusefan78]

The approach is so short-sighted, it really is morbidly comical...

Yeah that’s my thought. If it’s hop the need to score a monster portal class year one is a must. The clock is ticking. They only have 3 years of Melo money and I bet it’s only two as he leaves after his junior year.

 

[CardiacCuse]

Even with money we are going to have to overpay players. Who wants to take a chance coming to a coach that struggled to average 70 ppg playing an offense designed for 1995 where his teams shoot 30% from 3 each season no matter the players. It’s so stupid I can’t even believe it’s got to the point of legitimate discussion. And we didn’t even get to discussing the zone.

i thought i was in the twilight zone for a sec coming on here and reading so much about Hop...

...and then reading about him being Melos choice...

after some thought, it makes a bit of sense

my theory:

Kiyan cant cover anyone 1 on 1...he needs zone...hop is a zone coach...

IF you need a zone coach...who else would you get for Cuse?

i dont want zone and i dont thik many do...but hop at least has experience coaching it

so Melo would be willing to donate heavy to rationalize it, most likely...as long as Kiyan gets guaranteed heavy minutes...which Hop would be more than willing to promise to get the job

If Melo is backing Hop, maybe its not about the Cuse, but about his son (i genuinely beleive that melo cares deeply about resurrecting the program but family comes first)

 

[Sherman20]

I can say this with certainty - Melo has a package of $30 million (and growing) lined up for Hop. This includes nba players, local guys and a few that have never donated to cuse ever before. The plan is to front load that money for the first 2 years to immediately become relevant. But that’s what the deal is for Hop from Melo.

I wish Melo was aware of what a poor track record Hop has as an offensive and defensive coach when it comes to modern schemes and sets using analytics and data then being able to teach those to his team. And I honestly don’t think his time in the NBA is gonna help, because NBA offenses are so different due to the talent level.

 

[PoppyHart]

I have it on good authority that the university, in conjunction with its renowned marketing department, is going to make a major announcement regarding the head men’s basketball coaching position very soon.

The day after the Pitt game, on March 3rd, the plan is to announce that Red Autry will not be returning in 2026-27.

The following day, and continuing in 14 day increments, they will release the surname of the new hire ONE letter at a time, culminating with the third letter reveal on April 1st.

Anybody who is dyslexic should proceed with the utmost caution.

 

[Sherman20]

Reading this thread today and seeing that Lyke and Hopkins both have great chances of being the AD and HC have almost made me want to cry. I wish I was kidding, but that’s how bad I’d feel if they’re hired.

It’s gonna be so depressing to go through another 3-5 years of crap basketball. I can’t do it. At this point, I’m increasingly angry at JB for holding this program hostage for so many years at such a pivotal time.

 

[sufan59]

I have it on good authority that the university, in conjunction with its renowned marketing department, is going to make a major announcement regarding the head men’s basketball coaching position very soon.

The day after the Pitt game, on March 3rd, the plan is to announce that Red Autry will not be returning in 2026-27.

The following day, and continuing in 14 day increments, they will release the surname of the new hire ONE letter at a time, culminating with the third letter reveal on April 1st.

Anybody who is dyslexic should proceed with the utmost caution.

Imagine lol

 

[Blanko97]

NFL is rigged and scripted FYI

My drunk bartender argues the same thing

 

[CuseBlood44]

The best of both worlds would be Hodgson as HC and give HOP a promotion from where he is now to associate HC. Don't know if Hodgson would go for it, but if he would, tons of support and an excellent Head Coach.

If he could get a $30+ M dollar budget he absolutely would. But I doubt Hop would …

 

[orangepassion]

...and then reading about him being Melos choice...

my theory:

Kiyan cant cover anyone 1 on 1...he needs zone...hop is a zone coach...

IF you need a zone coach...who else would you get for Cuse?

Gallo from Merrimack

 

[CuseBlood44]

Reading this thread today and seeing that Lyke and Hopkins both have great chances of being the AD and HC have almost made me want to cry. I wish I was kidding, but that’s how bad I’d feel if they’re hired.

I felt this way too a few days ago. Trying to tell myself that it would be very hard to miss the tourney with the budget that was thrown out earlier, but long term I think this is an awful move as I expect the money to dry up over time especially if Hop is doing less with more which is a fair assumption.

As for Lyke, definitely disappointing. A bit head scratching why Lally is backing her

 

[RedtheGOB]

Since we’re all having fun with hypotheticals.

Would the bot decisionmakers have picked 39 year old unproven Fran Brown 2 years ago if he was interviewing against the equivalent of a Mike Hopkins type hire with the same larger bankroll and former player support?

My gut tells me that Fran Brown would’ve never set foot in the dome and the Mike Hopkins type football HC would’ve been hired before Babers had a chance to pack up his office.

 

[kingtidge]

Since we’re all having fun with hypotheticals.

Would the bot decisionmakers have picked 39 year old unproven Fran Brown 2 years ago if he was interviewing against the equivalent of a Mike Hopkins type hire with the same larger bankroll and former player support?

My gut tells me that Fran Brown would’ve never set foot in the dome and the Mike Hopkins type football HC would’ve been hired before Babers had a chance to pack up his office.

Commonality between both:

Fran brought his own bag of $$ too.

 

[dasher]

can you provied any examples from NCAABB?

I am sure I could but I am not going to spend one second looking it up. I have been
on this board all day with this stuff and quite frankly, I'm tired.

 

[LAorange44]

God bless Carmelo

 

[dasher]

The best of both worlds would be Hodgson as HC and give HOP a promotion from where he is now to associate HC. Don't know if Hodgson would go for it, but if he would, tons of support and an excellent Head Coach.

This isn't a political situation where we can throw the vice president at one of these guys. There will be a winner and a second place. They won't be working together.

 

[CardiacCuse]

Well, I think we would all agree that the talent level he has is not even in the same stratosphere as SU.
Doty could succeed at SU, but that is about it.
I think most who have actually watched GMAC coach this year would agree that he seems to have the goods to be a good coach. He makes in game changes, his teams play hard and fight and his team actually seems to have an identity. Watch his press conferences - he actually sounds like a head coach.
I also think if you make Red the head coach at Siena there is no way Siena would be sniffing 20 wins, be second in their conference only two years removed from having 4 wins and finishing last in their conference.

yeah totally. not grading candidates on a curve (depending on where theyre at is ludicrous)

gmac is in a 1 bid league...people demanding he makes the tourney and makes noise there first are wild

hop made the tourney 1 time in 7 seasons at a major conference school!

 

[Cusean]

He was. But only one of those 2 teams made the NCAAT, which shows how much they were valued. And after that he went 70-84. So yeah, a complete flop.

Eh, Kenny Payne was a complete flop. Hop seems like some good, some bad, some bad luck.

 

[CardiacCuse]

Why couldn’t he do this for whoever is coaching?

bc his son needs a zone, is what im thinking

and hop is one of the few zone coaches roaming around

 

[Consigliere]

I think you might be focusing on the wrong question. A better question might be: could Hodgson beat the Duke, UNC, Virginia, Louisville teams once he's implemented his system, and gotten system fits, as a long-term program transformation.

Not worried so much about performance being optimized in year 1. But the footprint needs to be in place, to set the table for future sucess.

Faith without evidence is unnecessary here -- because he's shown his ability to elevate teams not once, but twice, in short order.

Again, not focusing on any question at all. Simply making the point that there is no empirical evidence that Hodgson would be the can’t miss, sure fire thing some are portraying him to be. If he gets the gig I certainly hope he is, but until then I am willing to accept the possibility that there may be other qualified candidates.

 

[Sherman20]

Basketball program on life support and the university thinks Lyke at AD and Hop coaching is the answer!? Someone needs to talk some sense into the BoT before it’s too late.

A failed AD and a failed head coach! Both fired from their previous jobs for poor performance. What could possibly go wrong?!?

 

[UpstateSM]

How about we hire a coach where you don't have to do a bunch of hypotheticals in order to convince yourself that he *could* be good. I mean JFC this really isn't that difficult.

Hodgson wins. Hire the guy who wins.