Coach Search Options after Autry

[RedtheGOB]

How many people on the BOT do you know for you to say that they make their decisions on who's friendly and who they know?

Me thinks about 150 pages of this thread is because there is concern that the BoT is making a decision based on who they know.

 

[DilemaCuse]

I hear ya. I’m just trying to tell ppl this isn’t some open and shut case cuz I do actually really think that some of the board has no clue.

They value winning I’m sure and a good coach.

that’s the easy part but they don’t understand what that takes and looks like in the current landscape.

You are confirming my suspicions and this is what I fear. It explains how we got in this situation in the first place, exhaustive national search should have been 3 years ago. I've referred to them not as trustees but another term fwiw.

 

[sufan59]

^Hodgson was on the Buffalo staff for this game.

The amount of blue in those stands…. This game and the game a month earlier against UConn at MSG in Dan Hurley first season can be looked back on as temperature check type games that Syracuse was going to lose its advantage to win the stylistic games. I felt like even after that, Boeheims ‘big’ wins during that season and after was largely against veteran coaches. He was losing to the up and comers bringing a modern style.

 

[RF2044]

Okay, what would our record be with the team we have, with BH coaching it?

This year's team?

22-7

Without a roster optimized for his preferred style of play. However, BH would unlock / actualize White / Kyle / Kingz / Freeman.

 

[35kcuse]

The amount of blue in those stands…. This game and the game a month earlier against UConn at MSG in Dan Hurley first season can be looked back on as temperature check type games that Syracuse was going to lose its advantage to win the stylistic games. I felt like even after that, Boeheims ‘big’ wins during that season and after was largely against veteran coaches. He was losing to the up and comers bringing a modern style.

Hodgson is part of this young wave that can a) coach out of their minds but also b) adapt and thrive in the NIL era.

Cuse needs to get in front of this trend for once in their lives.

 

[RF2044]

I don't think Hodgson would need $30M to field a competitive, top 4 ACC type of team.

That system + system fits, we could be really, really good with like a $5M NIL budget. Which feels more long term sustainable to me than hoping for crazy NIL donations to offset a coach with limited strategic acumen.

 

[capeorange]

He's probably still bitter that Hodgson was part of the last Oats/UB staff that came in and beat SU.
What was the story?
Oats said pregame or halftime or in a timeout SU is soft and then they took our soul down the stretch of the game

Oats was not wrong and we still are soft.

 

[dasher]

Me thinks about 150 pages of this thread is because there is concern that the BoT is making a decision based on who they know.

So, you are making your judgment on people you don't know based on 150 pages on a internet message board. Got it. Well, I do know some people on the BOT. They love Syracuse as much as you do. They want to win as much as you do. Maybe more. Does that mean they don't make mistakes? Of course not. All of us make mistakes. But the decisions that are upcoming will be made because of what they think is the right choice. I am not overly confidant that they will do the right things on the two positions we are waiting on. I don't know. But I don't question that the decision will be because of who they think is the right person for the job rather than just some person they like.

 

[Newhouser]

Oats was not wrong and we still are soft.

Exactly. He said what all of us deep down, knew to be true.

 

[TommyA13]

So, you are making your judgment on people you don't know based on 150 pages on an internet message board. Got it. Well, I do know some people on the BOT. They love Syracuse as much as you do. They want to win as much as you do. Maybe more. Does that mean they don't make mistakes? Of course not. All of us make mistakes. But the decisions that are upcoming will be made because of what they think is the right choice. I am not overly confidant that they will do the right things on the two positions we are waiting on. I don't know. But I don't question that the decision will be because of who they think is the right person for the job rather than just some person they like.

Tell them to hire BH and any AD not named Heather Lyke, thanks.

 

[BomberOrange]

BH is really not the safe pick. He costs a lot more and has been moving around every 2-3 years. Also is in his late 30’s with a few unsavory comments here and there.

The powers that be are all old ass rich people that measure basketball coaches based on who’s friendly and who they know.

It’s an obvious choice to me and you but some people are still living in the past.

He’s the safe pick and the right one. I will stop you there.
Cost? Who cares.

Moving around?…are you stupid? Or should a coach not jump at opportunities to move up the chain?

unsavory comments?…boeheim wasn’t exactly Mr Roger’s.

 

[Franz69]

It's not rocket surgery. Hodgson and Nick Carparelli.

 

[RedtheGOB]

So, you are making your judgment on people you don't know based on 150 pages on a internet message board. Got it. Well, I do know some people on the BOT. They love Syracuse as much as you do. They want to win as much as you do. Maybe more. Does that mean they don't make mistakes? Of course not. All of us make mistakes. But the decisions that are upcoming will be made because of what they think is the right choice. I am not overly confidant that they will do the right things on the two positions we are waiting on. I don't know. But I don't question that the decision will be because of who they think is the right person for the job rather than just some person they like.

If you know a better or more entertaining way to get information and form opinions by all means let us know.

I haven’t found one. Social media is a plague and the other sites, radio and podcast guys are just retreading the same info here only a few days or weeks later.

 

[Cappy3]

So, you are making your judgment on people you don't know based on 150 pages on a internet message board. Got it. Well, I do know some people on the BOT. They love Syracuse as much as you do. They want to win as much as you do. Maybe more. Does that mean they don't make mistakes? Of course not. All of us make mistakes. But the decisions that are upcoming will be made because of what they think is the right choice. I am not overly confidant that they will do the right things on the two positions we are waiting on. I don't know. But I don't question that the decision will be because of who they think is the right person for the job rather than just some person they like.

So Dash, do you really think that if they feel Hodgson is the better coach they will be willing to overlook the (supposed) $30 mil? Not trying to be snarky, genuinely want your read on the members you know.

 

[Jake]

I don't think Hodgson would need $30M to field a competitive, top 4 ACC type of team.

That system + system fits, we could be really, really good with like a $5M NIL budget. Which feels more long term sustainable to me than hoping for crazy NIL donations to offset a coach with limited strategic acumen.

$5M total roster money?!?! No. He’ll need double that. $5M is less than anyone in the SEC or Big. MAYBE middle of the pack ACC or Big12.

 

[DilemaCuse]

 

[DanielA]

Hodgson need 10-15 mil to be competitive and in the middle of the acc nil wise

 

[Jake]

How about White? Because he will go as well.

White already has a portal suitor.

 

[phil77]

$5M total roster money?!?! No. He’ll need double that. $5M is less than anyone in the SEC or Big. MAYBE middle of the pack ACC or Big12.

I feel he could win with the money we had this year. 4-6 million NIL plus all the other money, totalling 8-11 million in money spent. I think that is enough money in his system to build a program that can win on a regular basis. From what people have said in this thread and what I have seen around, I don't think NIL will be an issue under Hodgson I he understands the landscape. I would rather build something stable like that than have a one-time random big sum of money that is promised and "maybe" delivered.

I think once he wins, that 4-6 million will increase, as people will want to be a part of Syracuse being a winner again. I think Syracuse would probably top out about 6-9 million of pure NIL annually, putting them about 11-14 million overall budget yearly.

 

[Briancuse]

Let's look at some individual games. No way bh loses to bc wake or hofstra. That's three more wins there. Better coaching and we beat clemson and tech. That's 5 more. Houston was ripe for the taking bh has his team shooting better from the line so 6. We probably lose to ville anyway and beats pitt by 30. So 22 and 9 heading to Charlotte.

 

[CuseBlock]

It’s GMAC

 

[phil77]

It’s GMAC

LOL

 

[Cusefan69]

It’s GMAC

 

[sufan59]

It’s GMAC

The Syracuse job? Or at USF or another American/A10 job?

 

[Briancuse]

It’s GMAC

I'll take wrong answers for 200 ken.