Coach Search Options after Autry

[sweetpea]

If Hop is the hire all this NIL talk will. not. matter.

Why? Because in a year or two we won't have any?

 

[Scooch]

I'm actually surprised that there aren't more billionaire alumni of the Ivy's demanding they go FBS. Truly take college football back 100+ years.

Institutionally there is zero appetite at the Ivies to compete that way. Less than zero.

What's far more likely, IMHO, is that someone, someday, bankrolls a low major. A fabulously wealthy alum of a Liberty or Tulsa in football, or a Grand Canyon or Incarnate Word in hoops, throws millions at the program to be a title contender. For kicks.

 

[Scooch]

If Hodgson (or someone outside the family) is the hire and doesn't get in the top 25 year one, the "keep it in the family" folks are going to be calling for his head. If it wasn't annoying already, it's just going to get worse.

Which leads back to why we hired Red 3 years ago. The retort to those folks is that we tried it your way and it was a catastrophe.

 

[FrancoPizza]

Rumor I heard a few days ago was that Hopkins agent was negotiating a contract with su. All figures were in agreement minus the nil money he felt the school needed to guarantee to turn the program around. If this is true which this sources usually is then we maybe disappointed in the coaching hire. I doubt bh comes here if the nil funds are lacking. A good coach is not coming here to not be competitive and have every resource that’s needed.

How does this only have 4 reactions?

 

[Cusefan0307]

If Hodgson (or someone outside the family) is the hire and doesn't get in the top 25 year one, the "keep it in the family" folks are going to be calling for his head. If it wasn't annoying already, it's just going to get worse.

We had a poll here and like 4 people out of 100 wanted Hop or Gmac as coach…They wouldn’t be anything more than a very vocal minority.

 

[FrancoPizza]

Why? Because in a year or two we won't have any?

Because NIL without a good coach means nothing. We need both.

 

[Scooch]

We had a poll here and like 4 people out of 100 wanted Hop or Gmac as coach…They wouldn’t be anything more than a very vocal minority.

I suspect there's a LOT more McNamara support out there in the fanbase than is represented on this board.

No one wants Hopkins.

 

[Irishsecra1]

Which leads back to why we hired Red 3 years ago. The retort to those folks is that we tried it your way and it was a catastrophe.

The problem was who we hired in the family, not that they were in the family.
But I do think TPTB thought lets take the most experienced assistant and give it to them.
No looking at the other assistants and what they could do, no serious look at outside candidates, lets just turn the page.
That was a catastrophic decision.

 

[NKR1978]

Institutionally there is zero appetite at the Ivies to compete that way. Less than zero.

What's far more likely, IMHO, is that someone, someday, bankrolls a low major. A fabulously wealthy alum of a Liberty or Tulsa in football, or a Grand Canyon or Incarnate Word in hoops, throws millions at the program to be a title contender. For kicks.

Billionaire rivals taking on low major schools and turning them into national powers would make a great tv show.

 

[Irishsecra1]

I suspect there's a LOT more McNamara support out there in the fanbase than is represented on this board.

No one wants Hopkins.

Especially now that they can watch his team tonight on ESPN2 fighting for the championship and an NCAAT bid.
If, If, we stay inside the family it should be GMAC. Not Hop.

But I think for everyone's sanity they should do an outside hire. BH, Schertz, whatever.
I personally think GMAC has the ability to turn our team around but it would be a huge ask for many of the fan base to trust someone else from the Boeheim tree.
These last 2 years have just been soul crushing.

 

[Ozone!]

Damn right. We need higher resolution jpegs.

You certainly have cart blanch to produce them; anytime. Go for it!

 

[FrancoPizza]

You certainly have cart blanch to produce them; anytime. Go for it!

Sorry, too busy trying to figure out the max sertraline dosage a human body can tolerate. Bracing for Hop.

Edit: it's 200 mg.

 

[RF2044]

As someone who heard Hopkins from a source a few days ago (and certainly didn’t want to hear it) I really agree with this post. I think a lot of former basketball alumni/people currently within the program kinda feel Hopkins as their last chance per se. And it excited them to hear his name remotely in the conversation which led to some smoke blowing. I think that with a new AD coming in, JW and certainly the new AD, aren’t going to feel as obligated to make those people happy as much as one would think. I hope (and it sounds like from this board), that decision makers are starting to see that Hodgson clearly is what this program needs. As much as my source nearly made me faint hearing Hopkins, I think that it’s very strikingly similar to the Dan Mullen situation. That very first rumor like that oftentimes runs its course before hiring time.

Just my two cents, but there is def a Hopkins buzz within good sources which is scary.

My money is with Hodgson.

100% spot on, across the board.

 

[BomberOrange]

We had a poll here and like 4 people out of 100 wanted Hop or Gmac as coach…They wouldn’t be anything more than a very vocal minority.

I hope Orange79 banned those 4!!

 

[llandz]

While I don't want Hop, I won't give up on the program. I would never give up on the program. I have been a fan for 50 years. I would have to have faith that Hop can do somethiing he could not do at Washington. I would welcome him back, and support him to the best of my ability. Would I be dissapointed, yes, but not devastated.

 

[FrancoPizza]

I think that it’s very strikingly similar to the Dan Mullen situation. That very first rumor like that oftentimes runs its course before hiring time.

If Hop is in contract negotiations that sounds like we're way past the rumor stage.

 

[sufan59]

That's from 2019

I know, I said reunion.

 

[CooperCuse]

Yet JB advocated for Gerry to take over not Red.
He truly believed that Gerry had the it factor to build a successful team.
So Red has one winning season, with Gerry, and 2 losing seasons without him.
Gerry moved on to Siena where he took a 4 win team to the MAAC title game tonight.
Seems to me JB knew who was the better head coach material.

This is where I'm coming from. Gerry was Jim's pick to succeed him as head coach. So why did the school essentially ignore Boeheim's wishes and hire Red instead? It seemed at the time, and now still, to be deliberately disrespectful. The team this year hasn't lost because they're not talented. It's because of coaching. I know people on here don't want to hear it but Jim was right.

 

[FrancoPizza]

So why did the school essentially ignore Boeheim's wishes and hire Red instead?

We can't speak the real reasons. But quite frankly it doesn't matter anymore if it's Hop. University might as well rent out more Turning Stone tarps for the upper deck.

 

[RedtheGOB]

I suspect there's a LOT more McNamara support out there in the fanbase than is represented on this board.

No one wants Hopkins.

For real. I usually go by what my parents think about the coach to get an idea what the randoms think.

When my 70 year old mother says GMac over Hopkins by a mile that's where I think most of the fanbase is. They don't understand anything beyond that for who's available.

If it's an outside hire they won't care until they see the new guy talking or winning next year.

Overall though they care about the players more anyway.

 

[Briancuse]

While I don't want Hop, I won't give up on the program. I would never give up on the program. I have been a fan for 50 years. I would have to have faith that Hop can do somethiing he could not do at Washington. I would welcome him back, and support him to the best of my ability. Would I be dissapointed, yes, but not devastated.

Will still watch will have little faith and have little incentive to give to the nil fund.

 

[Dcuse]

This is where I'm coming from. Gerry was Jim's pick to succeed him as head coach. So why did the school essentially ignore Boeheim's wishes and hire Red instead? It seemed at the time, and now still, to be deliberately disrespectful. The team this year hasn't lost because they're not talented. It's because of coaching. I know people on here don't want to hear it but Jim was right.

Nope. It was both coaching and overrated talent. As much as we all love Kyle, he was too small to stop the post scoring from ACC centers. Donnie Freeman was massively overrated by this board. We have 2 shooting guards who can't shoot. The backup center spends more time sprawled out on the floor than on his feet. Trust me, the talent level contributed to the losses.

 

[CooperCuse]

Nope. It was both coaching and overrated talent. As much as we all love Kyle, he was too small to stop the post scoring from ACC centers. Donnie Freeman was massively overrated by this board. We have 2 shooting guards who can't shoot. The backup center spends more time sprawled out on the floor than on his feet. Trust me, the talent level contributed to the losses.

Who recruited the players? Who coaches the players? The responsibility, and whatever blame is assessed, still falls on Coach Autry.

 

[RyanCuse44]

I swear to any and all gods, if Hopkins is the pick I won’t spend a dime on SU basketball.

 

[sweetpea]

Because NIL without a good coach means nothing. We need both.

I misunderstood. You are correct.