Coach Search Options after Autry

[swish7]

We’re about to ride the bus off the cliff into HopkinsVille and all people care about is who changed the oil last.

Why would we hire Mike Hopkins?

 

[phsyra]

Why would we hire Mike Hopkins?

We don't have enough NIL to get Hopkins. We might have to bring Boeheim for a transition year, similar to what Stanford football did with Frank Reich. We save our money and then Hopkins comes in next year. This was the original plan and we need to get back to it.

 

[Widget24]

 

[RF2044]

We don't have enough NIL to OVERCOME Hopkins's PROVEN TRACK RECORD OF BEING A SUBPAR COACH.

FIFY

 

[phil77]

Can we get back to talking about our next coach Hodgson lol

 

[shu 49]

It's amazing to me that the basketball alumni can't see the likely potential of going down the same road as we did with Red. Are they afraid they can't wander around the Melo Center anymore? I would think a new outside hire would still see the importance of keeping the "Family Atmosphere." Hilarious that Hop is going to strongly negotiate his NIL or not come.

If we are go with Gmac. Hop has 0 offense. Both great guysbut want Hodg first

 

[shu 49]

I would argue that the book on Gmac is still to be written. I still have my doubts about his ceiling. And you can’t compare the situation at SU with Siena.

But we have Hop supposedly leading and hehad his shot with a few 5 star guys and couldnt win. no offense.

 

[EnviroSciGuy]

All of the Hop talk was just to soften us up and make us thankful for a GMac hire.

 

[dasher]

You can use inflammatory language like "apologist point of view" and "intellectually honest" if you want, it doesn't mean anything. I would also say that Jim Boeheim deserves more respect than calling him an old man and saying he ran the program into the ground. I've always believed that he earned the right to go out on his own terms and have input into who took over the program. Instead, the university treated him poorly and so did many fans.

A few things. JB is an old man. I know because at this stage, I am an old man. And I am younger than JB. He stopped working hard on the recruiting trail. I understand. I didn't work as hard at the end of my career as I did at the beginning. Almost no one does. Jb could still coach a game and be real good at it. This day he could do that. But he couldn't do all the other things needed. Hit the road and go see a kid. Look at who we got in the portal. Kids that he knew that were somewhat local. The numbers tell the story. Jb ran the program down.

 

[Sherman20]

If JB has not torpedoed the program in his final 5 years, the next coach would have had a better chance to succeed.

I don’t know, Jake. Red is a very bad coach. He would’ve done poorly even if JB hadn’t held on too long and stubbornly refused to change how he operated.

 

[Jake]

I don’t know, Jake. Red is a very bad coach. He would’ve done poorly even if JB hadn’t held on too long and stubbornly refused to change how he operated.

Both can be true. I was not making excuses for Red.

 

[Sherman20]

Then explain what happened, if you're in the know. I've not told anyone they are wrong, although that's exactly what you are currently doing to me. You're also telling me to be quiet, something you people on here do a lot when opinions differ from the gatekeepers. This is a discussion board, right, or is discussion not allowed here? You think Jim wrecked the program on purpose? Because that's what torpedo means.

Cooper, I will share something with you. There are a few insiders on this board who we all value. Jake is one of them. He knows of what he speaks.

 

[zjscuse]

Can we PLEASE hire outside of the family and start from a fresh page. Someone with a proven track record that is better built to manage this era of college basketball . Nate oats would’ve been a perfect transition coach. Who’s out there that resembles such a move?

 

[Cusefan69]

Can we PLEASE hire outside of the family and start from a fresh page. Someone with a proven track record that is better built to manage this era of college basketball . Nate oats would’ve been a perfect transition coach. Who’s out there that resembles such a move?

Some of our posters are going to be insufferable when GMac wins tonight. Be ready for GMac for coach coming hot.

 

[phil77]

Some of our posters are going to be insufferable when GMac wins tonight. Be ready for GMac for coach coming hot.

Yup it is going to be stupid time. GMac needs to figure out an actual offense before he is ready for P4. He should use this success to level up to a stronger 2nd tier conference.

 

[Melancer46]

Is the general gist still that we believe it's BH or Hop?

 

[OrlandoCuse]

Is the general gist still that we believe it's BH or Hop?

I think the collective opinion is Hop should not be considered. It’s like going backwards 10 years.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

 

[phil77]

I am glad because Seth Davis has no clue what he is talking about lol

 

[Melancer46]

I think the collective opinion is Hop should not be considered. It’s like going backwards 10 years.

Yeah totally get that but last I had heard it sounded like we thought he'd be considered despite our wishes?

 

[Sherman20]

Yup it is going to be stupid time. GMac needs to figure out an actual offense before he is ready for P4. He should use this success to level up to a stronger 2nd tier conference.

Ugh. We can’t have nice things, can we? It’s a good win and tourney run for Siena, and I’m happy for GMac, but he has more to prove, and his offense has the same vision and identity problems as Red’s. Have people lost their minds? He’s been a head coach at a lower level mid-major for 2 years.

And wasn’t Gmac on the bench for the entire 10-year long JB swoon? If we have to blame Red for his part in that, Gmac also has to share blame. Am I missing something? His team lost 11 games this year while competing in the MAAC and they finished 190 in KenPom (Merrimack was only a few spots higher, so was similar in terms of efficiency). Btw, Hofstra and Speedy Claxton were at #87, only a few spots below SU. If Gmac wasn’t an SU legend, he wouldn’t even be in the conversation.

 

[Sherman20]

Can we PLEASE hire outside of the family and start from a fresh page. Someone with a proven track record that is better built to manage this era of college basketball . Nate oats would’ve been a perfect transition coach. Who’s out there that resembles such a move?

How about Nate Oats’ right hand man at Buffalo and Alabama—Bryan Hodgson? Who’s now won as a head coach at two different programs within a few years. You know, the guy we’ve all been talking about.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

I am glad because Seth Davis has no clue what he is talking about lol

 

[zjscuse]

I think the collective opinion is Hop should not be considered. It’s like going backwards 10 years.

Hiring hop would be such a low iq move by the administration. He proved absolutely nothing. Enough with the familiar “safe” names.

 

[zjscuse]

How about Nate Oats’ right hand man at Buffalo and Alabama—Bryan Hodgson? Who’s now won as a head coach at two different programs within a few years. You know, the guy we’ve all been talking about.

I don’t come over here much, it’s a different breed from the football side lol.