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Coyle leaving for Minnesota AD job

bcubs9497 said:
You let your guys know from you, not the press, or twitter.

Plus, he's a gutless coward. Fired Shafer and staff via text, and dropped the bomb on the boys and walked out without the courtesy of explaining the decision. Coyle's a @!#$#@. Nothing will change my mind on that.
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Tell us how you really feel. :) I do agree with you guy really didn't handle business well
 
IthacaBarrel said:
Yeah to me it's quite simple. He didn't like the job ( reasons I have no idea but clearly he didn't), he went looking, got a new one and got more $$ as most people do when they take a new job.. Sounds like wifey may have not loved the area either. It happens.

He hired Dino, all I care about, which is great.
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True. Credit is due, there.

Still hate the @#$@# though.
 
GoSU96 said:
Baber's has a P5 coaching job and making $1.5M.

Was he doing that this time last year? You think he would be better off at Bowling Green?

Bosses come and go.

The angst about this is so over the top.
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Ok let's get a few facts straight here.

Babers makes $2.4 million plus incentives (except CL argues he's making $2.5) has a 6 year contract with a possible 5 year extension and he doesn't want to leave getting him to about age 65. When you get a call from Jim Brown & Floyd Little before you take the job and are in awe after the call, you know you came to the right school with the right tradition. It's Babers right to leave whenever he wants but those in the know state he doesn't and wants to stay but that depends if he can win like all coaches must do. Plus he just bought a very expensive house in Dewitt I believe. I don't think a new AD is going to disrupt anything and if anything he or she is going to say - what do you need Coach for me to help you to win!

I would take the job but it would be a pay cut for me - but I would "sacrifice" ;) if I had to.
 
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bcubs9497 said:
You let your guys know from you, not the press, or twitter.

Plus, he's a gutless coward. Fired Shafer and staff via text, and dropped the bomb on the boys and walked out without the courtesy of explaining the decision. Coyle's a @!#$#@. Nothing will change my mind on that.
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I think you post like a fool quite often (which is redundant I know because I don't think parents should be posting) but I agree with you here.

You had a little insight to the personality and it was right, he has none.
 
orangefog said:
I don't blame him, but do you think he handled it well?
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In this day and age, there is no way to handle it well. There's an old cliche, "its not personal, it's business". A lot of folks on this board take everything so personal. He took a job, and stayed for almost a year. Decided he could do better. For whatever reason, pay, hated the area, hated the people he was working with etc. I dont get why this board gets so emotional about people leaving for what they perceive to be greener pastures.

I guarantee you EVERYONE in this board would leave their current job for a competitor if they got a 20% plus raise. Every single one.
 
orangeinjersey said:
In this day and age, there is no way to handle it well. There's an old cliche, "its not personal, it's business". A lot of folks on this board take everything so personal. He took a job, and stayed for almost a year. Decided he could do better. For whatever reason, pay, hated the area, hated the people he was working with etc. I dont get why this board gets so emotional about people leaving for what they perceive to be greener pastures.

I guarantee you EVERYONE in this board would leave their current job for a competitor if they got a 20% plus raise. Every single one.
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Not necessarily...if I didn't have to move, then I probably would...but if I had to move, I might not...so money isn't the only factor, at least for me...
 
orangeinjersey said:
In this day and age, there is no way to handle it well. There's an old cliche, "its not personal, it's business". A lot of folks on this board take everything so personal. He took a job, and stayed for almost a year. Decided he could do better. For whatever reason, pay, hated the area, hated the people he was working with etc. I dont get why this board gets so emotional about people leaving for what they perceive to be greener pastures.

I guarantee you EVERYONE in this board would leave their current job for a competitor if they got a 20% plus raise. Every single one.
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Except I would actually tell my boss, and team, in person, that I was leaving. And I'd give notice.
 
orangeinjersey said:
In this day and age, there is no way to handle it well. There's an old cliche, "its not personal, it's business". A lot of folks on this board take everything so personal. He took a job, and stayed for almost a year. Decided he could do better. For whatever reason, pay, hated the area, hated the people he was working with etc. I dont get why this board gets so emotional about people leaving for what they perceive to be greener pastures.

I guarantee you EVERYONE in this board would leave their current job for a competitor if they got a 20% plus raise. Every single one.
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It isn't why he left it is how he left. You usually have conversation with your boss your employees and give a notice. Not just leave and let twitter inform everyone that you work for and worked for you.
 
bcubs9497 said:
You let your guys know from you, not the press, or twitter.

Plus, he's a gutless coward. Fired Shafer and staff via text, and dropped the bomb on the boys and walked out without the courtesy of explaining the decision. Coyle's a @!#$#@. Nothing will change my mind on that.
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I get emails that execs leave my firm all the time, i dont deal with these people on a day to day basis, What do i care they are leaving, it doesnt affect my day to day duties. Do the players really interact with the AD on a day to day basis? If the answer is yes, then I am shocked. If the answer is no, then business as usual. It doesnt affect you. I dont get all the hate on the guy for taking a new job. Yeah it sucks, SU has to hire another guy, but life goes on.
 
Any thoughts as to whether or not this slows down the process for upgrading/replacing the Dome?
Not sure how much of a role the AD has in this.
 
orangeinjersey said:
In this day and age, there is no way to handle it well. There's an old cliche, "its not personal, it's business". A lot of folks on this board take everything so personal. He took a job, and stayed for almost a year. Decided he could do better. For whatever reason, pay, hated the area, hated the people he was working with etc. I dont get why this board gets so emotional about people leaving for what they perceive to be greener pastures.

I guarantee you EVERYONE in this board would leave their current job for a competitor if they got a 20% plus raise. Every single one.
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The AD is a leadership position. In my opinion, people in this position should always handle themselves with this in mind. I want my leaders strong enough to stand before the people that hired them and at least those that immediately answer to him/her and tell them that they are leaving. They don't have to face questions, they don't have to explain themselves, but they respect the position and those that they work for and those that work for them. I don't begrudge the move or the man, but it was handled in a weak manor and I am excited to get the right person for the job this time around.
 
orangeinohio said:
Any thoughts as to whether or not this slows down the process for upgrading/replacing the Dome?
Not sure how much of a role the AD has in this.
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Earlier in the thread posters stated that it was their understanding that Coyle had no input in the process.
 
illi3 said:
Love the new DO article that just got put up, where its noted that Coyle contacted contacts at MN about the job months ago, instead of the other way around. Nice work, Mark.

http://dailyorange.com/2016/05/joel-maturi-offers-insight-to-mark-coyle-leaving-syracuse/
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Of course he did, got here, hated the job or the area and he looked for a new one. Pretty clear to see what happened. If he was really happy, he would have stayed, certainly not a dream job scenario. I don't really care about AD's anymore to be honest.

New AD will look at Dino and say, get it done. Who the in their right mind would not give Dino every opportunity to be successful at Syracuse, his resume states that he wins and he builds winners. He also has an exciting brand of football.
 
orangeinjersey said:
I get emails that execs leave my firm all the time, i dont deal with these people on a day to day basis, What do i care they are leaving, it doesnt affect my day to day duties. Do the players really interact with the AD on a day to day basis? If the answer is yes, then I am shocked. If the answer is no, then business as usual. It doesnt affect you. I dont get all the hate on the guy for taking a new job. Yeah it sucks, SU has to hire another guy, but life goes on.
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Another reason people are not happy is that it gives SU a bad perception...why is he leaving after only 11 months? Especially with the way he handled it...
 
Whitey23 said:
Earlier in the thread posters stated that it was their understanding that Coyle had no input in the process.
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Gotcha, thanks. Haven't had time to go through the whole thread. Stupid job.
 
After the shock has subsided, I am thinking it may be no big deal. If all we got out of Coyle was the Babers hire, we got a good deal.

1) The Gophers probably came hard at him and he probably got a great deal. It is probably all about money. It is embarrassing that he used the family BS excuse.
2) Anyone could see the state of the SU programs from his seat at Boise. He certainly would have had the network to vett the job and knew what the challenges would be. Could Syverud have piseed him off enough in 11 months?
3) Babers is not going to follow a guy who pulled this stunt.
4) Coyle's commitment is worth nothing so good riddance. You don't want this guy in your lifeboat.
5) Kent will hire someone good.

SU Athletics is in great shape and the future is bright.
 
Some people will say I am saying this simply because he left like he did (and would be completely wrong):

I was never enthusiastic about the Coyle hire. He's about as polar opposite of Gross as you can be. And Gross took a lot of crap from people on here, but he did nothing except elevate all sports to competitive levels never seen, save football (bringing it to competitive lows never seen). Branded Syracuse like it needed to be, pulled in more revenue streams for the AD in a small revenue conference, built facilities that made recruits take a second look, and STAYED!

Again, Coyle was the polar opposite. Maybe he made a great football hire. Awesome. (Actually would continue to prove the point that he's Gross' doppelganger). Coyle was aloof, stayed away from the limelight. Endlessly boring and bland when he actually did come out of hiding (and kept those moments as brief as possible). And fumbled the introduction of Dino Babers at one of the basketball games.

I want another Gross. I don't care what anyone says. I'll take him in a heartbeat. Someone who is clearly enthusiastic about being here and about promoting the vision for the athletic department whenever possible, and someone who is constantly making moves to bring that vision to fruition (even if not every move is a slam dunk). I'll take a hundred Daryl Grosses any day of the week and twice on Sunday.

And no, I'm not his wife ...
 
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I'm usually not for hiring the "in house guy" (always seems like the cheap and easy way out) but Pete Sala makes too much sense with all the Dome renovation stuff on the table. Literally nobody knows the Dome better.
 
Having spent a lot of time and effort in the process that led to Coyle's hiring, it should be much easier this time around. Start with the folks who made the final cut along with Coyle.
 
Having spent a lot of time and effort in the process that led to Coyle's hiring, it should be much easier this time around. Start with the folks who made the final cut along with Coyle.
 
orangeinohio said:
Gotcha, thanks. Haven't had time to go through the whole thread. Stupid job.
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Got a suggestion: Start looking for a new job, but don't tell anyone, when you find one then send an e-mail out, as you are leaving for the day, to your boss(es), co-workers and/or subordinate(s) that you are not coming back tomorrow and you are starting a new job for family reasons...seems to work...
 
The guy took a job, and left less than year to take a job HE THOUGHT was better. It happens all the time (in business). Again, not sure why everyone is so fired up. He is FROM Minnesota and worked in the AD for 6 years previously. There is no such thing as loyalty in this day and age. Dont expect it.
 

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