Development in and Around Syracuse Discussion

[KellySyracuse]

Farley to Gillibrand: Don't tell Syracuse what to do with I-81

that didn't take long

 

[shandeezy7]

I never would have heard of this person if it weren't for weirdos' lawn signs.

I honestly had never heard of this woman until this very article.

 

[shandeezy7]

After nearly 40 years in business, downtown Syracuse's only pharmacy to close

Not the greatest news, but a seemingly perfect opportunity for Wegmans to debut a new urban grocery store concept, right?

 

[OttoMets]

After nearly 40 years in business, downtown Syracuse's only pharmacy to close

Not the greatest news, but a seemingly perfect opportunity for Wegmans to debut a new urban grocery store concept, right?

That's weird; Walgreens already applied to change the signage and I believe it's been installed. Wonder what happened.

If they can't be convinced to stay, I hope they sell. It's my understanding that a Rite Aid -affiliated entity has owned the building itself for decades. They did some facade work a few years ago but mostly they've let the building sit there with the top three floors vacant. This will be a very attractive redevelopment opportunity on a block that is close to turning the corner.

 

[JeremyCuse]

After nearly 40 years in business, downtown Syracuse's only pharmacy to close

Not the greatest news, but a seemingly perfect opportunity for Wegmans to debut a new urban grocery store concept, right?

Zero chance, Wegmans wants nothing to do with Downtown Syracuse.

 

[shandeezy7]

That's weird; Walgreens already applied to change the signage and I believe it's been installed. Wonder what happened.

If they can't be convinced to stay, I hope they sell. It's my understanding that a Rite Aid -affiliated entity has owned the building itself for decades. They did some facade work a few years ago but mostly they've let the building sit there with the top three floors vacant. This will be a very attractive redevelopment opportunity on a block that is close to turning the corner.

Yes, that is strange. They are closing 600 stores as a result of the merger. My guess is that they decided that the performance of this store fell within their determining factors of what stores to close across the country.

 

[sutomcat]

That's weird; Walgreens already applied to change the signage and I believe it's been installed. Wonder what happened.

If they can't be convinced to stay, I hope they sell. It's my understanding that a Rite Aid -affiliated entity has owned the building itself for decades. They did some facade work a few years ago but mostly they've let the building sit there with the top three floors vacant. This will be a very attractive redevelopment opportunity on a block that is close to turning the corner.

Anyone know what is under the ugly facade? It is an old building with nice brickwork and ornamental features underneath?

 

[shandeezy7]

Anyone know what is under the ugly facade? It is an old building with nice brickwork and ornamental features underneath?

Hmm, as far as I know, the current facade is more or less the original facade (minus the ornamental design on the top that is no longer there/still covered up).

 

[OttoMets]

Anyone know what is under the ugly facade? It is an old building with nice brickwork and ornamental features underneath?

Yep, that corrugated metal on the ground level is covering up some terra cotta and storefront windows, but for the most part it's already exposed.

 

[Marty McFly]

In other news the airport was ready for a ribbon cutting today... yeeesh. I very recently flew in/out of Hancock and am disappointed. I am all for improving aesthetics, and heaven knows that airport really needed a face-lift to get with the times, but man it seems like a poorly conceived, poorly executed, rush job with no practical or functional improvement to the flying public.

Among my chief complaints, there really isn't anything to do if god forbid your flight is delayed a few hours (and I would know first hand). No business center, or green area to sit and relax in (even in the lobby). Speaking of the lobby, it's dark and uninviting. What's with all the fake rock facade everywhere? Maybe on the 'grand staircase' but it's plastered everywhere in the lobby and is just odd (at least to me). I'd rather have a cool design feature or water feature... but I digress. The painted ceiling which I guess is supposed to tie into the floor color scheme just makes it more dark and closed in feeling. Plus I am literally butt-hurt over the crappy hard seats by the gates. couldn't allocate some of the 63 mill for padded seats? I'll even throw in a couple bonus items: the newly installed signage inside the airport is brutal. Who thought a dark blue background with important info that's not illuminated or bright in any way was smart? It's totally illegible more than 10 feet away. Don't get me started on the craptastic canopy outside, that will be a real treat in the winter, or the still untouched garage. I really don't know how this ran close to 65 million, but someone got a nice payday out of this.

Too bad some of the funds didn't go to functional improvements, or enticing more airlines from Hubs, or getting SW into the area. Don't get me wrong - I fly fairly often- and have seen many airports in big and small markets alike, and while Hancock is way nicer than it was... it could have been even better (a lot better from a practicality standpoint) for the customers flying in and out everyday.

 

[Newhouser]

In other news the airport was ready for a ribbon cutting today... yeeesh. I very recently flew in/out of Hancock and am disappointed. I am all for improving aesthetics, and heaven knows that airport really needed a face-lift to get with the times, but man it seems like a poorly conceived, poorly executed, rush job with no practical or functional improvement to the flying public.

Among my chief complaints, there really isn't anything to do if god forbid your flight is delayed a few hours (and I would know first hand). No business center, or green area to sit and relax in (even in the lobby). Speaking of the lobby, it's dark and uninviting. What's with all the fake rock facade everywhere? Maybe on the 'grand staircase' but it's plastered everywhere in the lobby and is just odd (at least to me). I'd rather have a cool design feature or water feature... but I digress. The painted ceiling which I guess is supposed to tie into the floor color scheme just makes it more dark and closed in feeling. Plus I am literally butt-hurt over the crappy hard seats by the gates. couldn't allocate some of the 63 mill for padded seats? I'll even throw in a couple bonus items: the newly installed signage inside the airport is brutal. Who thought a dark blue background with important info that's not illuminated or bright in any way was smart? It's totally illegible more than 10 feet away. Don't get me started on the craptastic canopy outside, that will be a real treat in the winter, or the still untouched garage. I really don't know how this ran close to 65 million, but someone got a nice payday out of this.

Too bad some of the funds didn't go to functional improvements, or enticing more airlines from Hubs, or getting SW into the area. Don't get me wrong - I fly fairly often- and have seen many airports in big and small markets alike, and while Hancock is way nicer than it was... it could have been even better (a lot better from a practicality standpoint) for the customers flying in and out everyday.

Wait you mean the Governor and his minions rushed another project and did it half arsed? No way. Lipstick on a pig and the posturing and pontificating is absurd. Is it better - for sure, is it good enough. No way.

 

[Trueblue25]

In other news the airport was ready for a ribbon cutting today... yeeesh. I very recently flew in/out of Hancock and am disappointed. I am all for improving aesthetics, and heaven knows that airport really needed a face-lift to get with the times, but man it seems like a poorly conceived, poorly executed, rush job with no practical or functional improvement to the flying public.

Among my chief complaints, there really isn't anything to do if god forbid your flight is delayed a few hours (and I would know first hand). No business center, or green area to sit and relax in (even in the lobby). Speaking of the lobby, it's dark and uninviting. What's with all the fake rock facade everywhere? Maybe on the 'grand staircase' but it's plastered everywhere in the lobby and is just odd (at least to me). I'd rather have a cool design feature or water feature... but I digress. The painted ceiling which I guess is supposed to tie into the floor color scheme just makes it more dark and closed in feeling. Plus I am literally butt-hurt over the crappy hard seats by the gates. couldn't allocate some of the 63 mill for padded seats? I'll even throw in a couple bonus items: the newly installed signage inside the airport is brutal. Who thought a dark blue background with important info that's not illuminated or bright in any way was smart? It's totally illegible more than 10 feet away. Don't get me started on the craptastic canopy outside, that will be a real treat in the winter, or the still untouched garage. I really don't know how this ran close to 65 million, but someone got a nice payday out of this.

Too bad some of the funds didn't go to functional improvements, or enticing more airlines from Hubs, or getting SW into the area. Don't get me wrong - I fly fairly often- and have seen many airports in big and small markets alike, and while Hancock is way nicer than it was... it could have been even better (a lot better from a practicality standpoint) for the customers flying in and out everyday.

And this is a main ad for Cuomo. Meh. He’s made the least of the most.

 

[SmilinBob]

Wait you mean the Governor and his minions rushed another project and did it half arsed? No way. Lipstick on a pig and the posturing and pontificating is absurd. Is it better - for sure, is it good enough. No way.

I'm sure it was just a coincidence both Rochester and Syracuse were done just before election day.

 

[GoCuse08]

I'm sure it was just a coincidence both Rochester and Syracuse were done just before election day.

Not a coincidence...they had strict deadlines to have them completed by Halloween.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

 

[OttoMets]

In other news the airport was ready for a ribbon cutting today... yeeesh. I very recently flew in/out of Hancock and am disappointed. I am all for improving aesthetics, and heaven knows that airport really needed a face-lift to get with the times, but man it seems like a poorly conceived, poorly executed, rush job with no practical or functional improvement to the flying public.

Among my chief complaints, there really isn't anything to do if god forbid your flight is delayed a few hours (and I would know first hand). No business center, or green area to sit and relax in (even in the lobby). Speaking of the lobby, it's dark and uninviting. What's with all the fake rock facade everywhere? Maybe on the 'grand staircase' but it's plastered everywhere in the lobby and is just odd (at least to me). I'd rather have a cool design feature or water feature... but I digress. The painted ceiling which I guess is supposed to tie into the floor color scheme just makes it more dark and closed in feeling. Plus I am literally butt-hurt over the crappy hard seats by the gates. couldn't allocate some of the 63 mill for padded seats? I'll even throw in a couple bonus items: the newly installed signage inside the airport is brutal. Who thought a dark blue background with important info that's not illuminated or bright in any way was smart? It's totally illegible more than 10 feet away. Don't get me started on the craptastic canopy outside, that will be a real treat in the winter, or the still untouched garage. I really don't know how this ran close to 65 million, but someone got a nice payday out of this.

Too bad some of the funds didn't go to functional improvements, or enticing more airlines from Hubs, or getting SW into the area. Don't get me wrong - I fly fairly often- and have seen many airports in big and small markets alike, and while Hancock is way nicer than it was... it could have been even better (a lot better from a practicality standpoint) for the customers flying in and out everyday.

Like the Amphitheatre, like the Expo Center, like virtually everything the county executive conspired with Cuomo to "improve." Slightly better, but so much worse than what that money could have bought. With the airport, the canopy situation is maybe the most ridiculous of all: in this climate, you're removing a huge, functional, drive-in roof...for what purpose?

Planning and public input are valuable. In a community with a lot of real needs, we pissed away a lot of money without them.

 

[kirbivore]

Wait you mean the Governor and his minions rushed another project and did it half arsed? No way. Lipstick on a pig and the posturing and pontificating is absurd. Is it better - for sure, is it good enough. No way.

People rip Miner for this, but I'm glad she said let's tap the brakes on the stadium. Shudder to think how that crew would've half assed that thing.

 

[RMH44]

In other news the airport was ready for a ribbon cutting today... yeeesh. I very recently flew in/out of Hancock and am disappointed. I am all for improving aesthetics, and heaven knows that airport really needed a face-lift to get with the times, but man it seems like a poorly conceived, poorly executed, rush job with no practical or functional improvement to the flying public.

Among my chief complaints, there really isn't anything to do if god forbid your flight is delayed a few hours (and I would know first hand). No business center, or green area to sit and relax in (even in the lobby). Speaking of the lobby, it's dark and uninviting. What's with all the fake rock facade everywhere? Maybe on the 'grand staircase' but it's plastered everywhere in the lobby and is just odd (at least to me). I'd rather have a cool design feature or water feature... but I digress. The painted ceiling which I guess is supposed to tie into the floor color scheme just makes it more dark and closed in feeling. Plus I am literally butt-hurt over the crappy hard seats by the gates. couldn't allocate some of the 63 mill for padded seats? I'll even throw in a couple bonus items: the newly installed signage inside the airport is brutal. Who thought a dark blue background with important info that's not illuminated or bright in any way was smart? It's totally illegible more than 10 feet away. Don't get me started on the craptastic canopy outside, that will be a real treat in the winter, or the still untouched garage. I really don't know how this ran close to 65 million, but someone got a nice payday out of this.

Too bad some of the funds didn't go to functional improvements, or enticing more airlines from Hubs, or getting SW into the area. Don't get me wrong - I fly fairly often- and have seen many airports in big and small markets alike, and while Hancock is way nicer than it was... it could have been even better (a lot better from a practicality standpoint) for the customers flying in and out everyday.

Hey...at least we got the coveted rain water recovery system!

 

[310Pigpen]

I'm sure it was just a coincidence both Rochester and Syracuse were done just before election day.

I was in the Rochester airport two weeks ago and said to myself wow it seems like this renovation is taking forever. I turned on the news last night and was blown away when they reported that it was finished. It certainly did not look finished when I was there a week before.

 

[Marty McFly]

Like the Amphitheatre, like the Expo Center, like virtually everything the county executive conspired with Cuomo to "improve." Slightly better, but so much worse than what that money could have bought. With the airport, the canopy situation is maybe the most ridiculous of all: in this climate, you're removing a huge, functional, drive-in roof...for what purpose?

Planning and public input are valuable. In a community with a lot of real needs, we pissed away a lot of money without them.

Cuomo may have backed this for election posturing, but he didn't half ass the design of it. Were the renderings even shown to the public in a townhall or just rammed through in back channel and kickback discussions?

To be honest what I really think the airport needs is to widen the united concourse, raise the roof on both concourses to create a "wow" factor. In the lobby add things that celebrate the region, it's history... add an Everson museum exhibit. Create a lounge or business center, or another comfortable place to sit (the old smelly dorm couches from the 70's on the back side of the escalators not-withstanding. Perhaps additional shopping and restaurants in the lobby (if possible).

Perhaps I am not up on real world costs for these type of projects, but seems we could have gotten a much better ROI. Then factoring in the garage,canopy etc. it is woefully inadequate.

 

[Trueblue25]

I’ll concede that Syracuse seems to be showing a resurgence recapturing the younger professional demographic that usually coincides with urban prosperity. However, I find it hard to support cuomo’s shortcomings and inefficiencies. I think others could capitalize more fully.

 

[CuseLegacy]

 

[Marty McFly]

Wow the neon "SYR" screams amateur hour. would have been really cool to get ephesus to do custom LED lighting for the outside, or on the canopy instead of that.

 

[OttoMets]

And yet again, the political hacks who run Onondaga County are doing their best to make a short-sighted decision: New Onondaga Lake trail could scare away bald eagles, Audubon says

To recap:

Trail near railroad tracks: dangerous and unacceptable.
Trail near bald eagle nesting area that's closed for three months a year despite a long-term goal to loop the lake: good idea.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

United Technologies breaks up, making Carrier Corp. independent company

United Technologies, the parent company of Carrier Corp., is breaking up into three companies, making Carrier an independent entity.

United Technologies made the announcement Monday in tandem with the announcement that it has acquired aviation electronics maker Rockwell Collins.

The breakup will results in three companies:

• United Technologies, comprised of Collins Aerospace Systems and Pratt & Whitney;
• Otis, the world's leading manufacturer of elevators, escalators and moving walkways; and
• Carrier, a global provider of HVAC, refrigeration and other products.