Development in and Around Syracuse Discussion

[shandeezy7]

 

[bballbeadle]

This article provides a nice perspective from an "outsider." I believe he may be from the Rochester area.

Syracuse Is Looking Good

Wow! I had no idea we looked so good!

 

[Ghost]

Wow! I had no idea we looked so good!

I know. Sad. Most of these cities have somewhat lovely downtowns...…..if only James Street could go back in time and not be torn down. Oh well.

Anyway, if someday we could get all the big-box store loving losers hiding out in the suburbs to invest some time shopping at places that don't sell, "LIVE, LAUGH, LOVE" type art, etc...and shopping at independent places downtown, or even independent places in general, imagine how much goodER things could be.

I immediately recoil in terror at any home that has that up.

 

[Eric15]

I remember when the owner lived in the neighborhood, opened a small pizza place in Seneca Mall when it was enclosed and the kids flocked to buy slices of pizza. He’s done very well for himself over the decades and has developed a very loyal following.

Was it called like Johnny Joes or something similar? I very vaguely remember it when I was extremely young in the early-mid 80s.

 

[shandeezy7]

I know. Sad. Most of these cities have somewhat lovely downtowns...…..if only James Street could go back in time and not be torn down. Oh well.

Anyway, if someday we could get all the big-box store loving losers hiding out in the suburbs to invest some time shopping at places that don't sell, "LIVE, LAUGH, LOVE" type art, etc...and shopping at independent places downtown, or even independent places in general, imagine how much goodER things could be.

I immediately recoil in terror at any home that has that up.

Seeing much of "Millionaire's Row" on Delaware Ave in Buffalo still in-tact makes me really sad about what "urban renewal" did to James Street. It could be the city's crown jewel today, but instead is full of half-empty, ugly-looking office buildings.

 

[OttoMets]

I know. Sad. Most of these cities have somewhat lovely downtowns...…..if only James Street could go back in time and not be torn down. Oh well.

Anyway, if someday we could get all the big-box store loving losers hiding out in the suburbs to invest some time shopping at places that don't sell, "LIVE, LAUGH, LOVE" type art, etc...and shopping at independent places downtown, or even independent places in general, imagine how much goodER things could be.

I immediately recoil in terror at any home that has that up.

Haha, but all the independent stores in downtown Syracuse seem to sell only that type of thing.

It is Upstate New York, after all.

 

[Cuseregular]

Was it called like Johnny Joes or something similar? I very vaguely remember it when I was extremely young in the early-mid 80s.

Pizza man, I think

 

[Ghost]

Haha, but all the independent stores in downtown Syracuse seem to sell only that type of thing.

It is Upstate New York, after all.

Fine. You win! lol

 

[Ghost]

Seeing much of "Millionaire's Row" on Delaware Ave in Buffalo still in-tact makes me really sad about what "urban renewal" did to James Street. It could be the city's crown jewel today, but instead is full of half-empty, ugly-looking office buildings.

I know - it would really be an amazing corridor heading out of downtown.

 

[bozophobe]

Re: Seneca Mall pizza - I think it was the site of one of the first Gino & Joe's in the early to mid-80's. Also, the Fay's Drugs store there had some really good security. Many of my fellow teen friends got busted shoplifting there.

 

[Cheriehoop]

Was it called like Johnny Joes or something similar? I very vaguely remember it when I was extremely young in the early-mid 80s.

No it was called Avicolli’s but I think there was another pizza place that had it’s beginning in Seneca Mall too called Gino and Joe’s before Avicolli’s opened in 1983. Gino and Joe’s locations are still open on Old Liverpool Rd and Market Place Mall too.

 

[FAL]

No it was called Avicolli’s but I think there was another pizza place that had it’s beginning in Seneca Mall too called Gino and Joe’s before Avicolli’s opened in 1983. Gino and Joe’s locations are still open on Old Liverpool Rd and Market Place Mall too.

Heaven forbid that you forgot downtown Baldwinsville! Oh the horror!

 

[KellySyracuse]

My parents once left me here when I was about 5 years old, didn't realize it until they stopped at Carroll's on the way home and noticed I wasn't in the way back of the station wagon with my 4 brothers and sister. I remember the store was closing and one of the workers brought me up to the front and sat me on the counter until my Mom came back to get me.

Last Kmart store in Syracuse area to close later this year

 

[KellySyracuse]

no company name yet, good news that it would be 1,000 new jobs. Bad news is the loss of the golf course and the expected traffic to the area. This would be another good reason to get rid of the Thruway tolls between 481 and 57 with the expected changes to Rt 81.

Oh, and they want a PILOT

Giant warehouse with 1,000 jobs planned in Clay, McMahon says

"McMahon said the $280 million project must meet a strict timeline for government approvals or risk being abandoned for a different site.

Trammell Crow is asking for tax subsidies estimated at about $65 million from the Onondaga County Industrial Development Agency. The project also would require a zone change from the town of Clay.

Trammell Crow has asked that OCIDA complete its review by Oct. 31 and that the town of Clay approve the zone change by mid-November, McMahon said. The company also wants to have all site approvals completed in time to begin construction in the spring of 2020, he said."

 

[shandeezy7]

no company name yet, good news that it would be 1,000 new jobs. Bad news is the loss of the golf course and the expected traffic to the area. This would be another good reason to get rid of the Thruway tolls between 481 and 57 with the expected changes to Rt 81.

Oh, and they want a PILOT

Giant warehouse with 1,000 jobs planned in Clay, McMahon says

"McMahon said the $280 million project must meet a strict timeline for government approvals or risk being abandoned for a different site.

Trammell Crow is asking for tax subsidies estimated at about $65 million from the Onondaga County Industrial Development Agency. The project also would require a zone change from the town of Clay.

Trammell Crow has asked that OCIDA complete its review by Oct. 31 and that the town of Clay approve the zone change by mid-November, McMahon said. The company also wants to have all site approvals completed in time to begin construction in the spring of 2020, he said."

Hope it works out, but I'll believe it when I see it. The golf course has been slated for development a few times now, I think, including most recently there were plans for a new housing development in there that fell through.

 

[OttoMets]

no company name yet, good news that it would be 1,000 new jobs. Bad news is the loss of the golf course and the expected traffic to the area. This would be another good reason to get rid of the Thruway tolls between 481 and 57 with the expected changes to Rt 81.

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Not sure if the location is glass half-full or not. Loss of green space is a shame, but at least this is more or less an inner-ring suburb. (I'm glad that this isn't planned for, say, that absurd White Oak boondoggle way up north.) Morgan Road really isn't walkable for low-income workers, but I believe there's at least some Centro service up there.

So this could be worse. And at least this is what OCIDA is supposed to be incentivizing (rather than crappy retail plazas in outer Camillus or hotel or apartment projects in the city).

 

[Fly Rodder]

Sure would like to see some action on Thompson Road/Carrier Circle ... that place seems prime for some warehouse work.

 

[KellySyracuse]

so what are the possibilities it's a distribution center for Amazon or Walmart? For 1,000 new jobs I'm thinking it has to be one of the big players that is looking to be centrally located near the Thruway and 81.

 

[FAL]

so what are the possibilities it's a distribution center for Amazon or Walmart? For 1,000 new jobs I'm thinking it has to be one of the big players that is looking to be centrally located near the Thruway and 81.

What a sweet spot for a warehouse, though...literally right around the corner from the Liverpool Thruway entrance. I would not be at all surprised if they dropped the toll from there to the I-81 (481?) ramp(s) as you commented about earlier. Let’s see what happens...

 

[bevosu]

I've thought for many years that Syracuse would be a great warehouse/trucking distribution center. The Thruway east and west, 81 north and south. Geographically perfectly positioned to serve most of the northeast.

Never could figure out why it didn't happen.

 

[KellySyracuse]

I've thought for many years that Syracuse would be a great warehouse/trucking distribution center. The Thruway east and west, 81 north and south. Geographically perfectly positioned to serve most of the northeast.

Never could figure out why it didn't happen.

I work for a corporation that has a distribution center here. It services NY, parts of Vermont and central PA. Our warehouse has about 150 employees give or take so whoever is interested in this plot of land is a big fish.

 

[shandeezy7]

I've thought for many years that Syracuse would be a great warehouse/trucking distribution center. The Thruway east and west, 81 north and south. Geographically perfectly positioned to serve most of the northeast.

Never could figure out why it didn't happen.

Perhaps many of the large distribution centers in Scranton have taken away some of that opportunity for CNY? Right at the crossroads of 81 and the Pennsylvania Turnpike. Easy access north to New York, west to Pittsburgh and the major midwestern cities, south to Philly, DC/Baltimore, etc. and east to NYC and Boston.

 

[FAL]

Perhaps many of the large distribution centers in Scranton have taken away some of that opportunity for CNY? Right at the crossroads of 81 and the Pennsylvania Turnpike. Easy access north to New York, west to Pittsburgh and the major midwestern cities, south to Philly, DC/Baltimore, etc. and east to NYC and Boston.

Let us not forget our friends to the north.

 

[bevosu]

Perhaps many of the large distribution centers in Scranton have taken away some of that opportunity for CNY? Right at the crossroads of 81 and the Pennsylvania Turnpike. Easy access north to New York, west to Pittsburgh and the major midwestern cities, south to Philly, DC/Baltimore, etc. and east to NYC and Boston.

I'm sure you've driven on those interstate highways around Scranton

You do raise an interesting point.

 

[KellySyracuse]

interesting article about a proposed DC in Memphis with similar specs as the one proposed in Clay

A massive warehouse is planned for North Memphis. Could it be Amazon?

If the warehouse planned in Raleigh gets built, it stands to be a hub of job creation in northern Memphis. But what company is behind it? Is it Amazon?

www.commercialappeal.com

"Based simply on its size — five stories and possibly more than 4 million square feet on a 99-acre plot of land — elected officials have estimated that it could create at least 1,000 jobs. Its parking lot — 1,828 car and 200 truck spaces plus an area that could be used to add future parking — indicates the possibility of even more hiring.

While many of the specifics of the development dubbed "Project Iris" were included in an application to change zoning ordinances to allow for the building, key pieces of information were also missing. At the top of the list is what company would occupy the building.

For now, most signs seem to be pointing in one direction: Amazon, which did not immediately respond to a request for comment."