Development in and Around Syracuse Discussion

[shandeezy7]

They're doing more construction on 31 after the train tracks and before Target. Is it going to be a 3rd car dealership in the last 2 years?

Is it this project, possibly?

Texas Roadhouse, Starbucks coming to new development in Clay

 

[CuseOnly]

Is it this project, possibly?

Texas Roadhouse, Starbucks coming to new development in Clay

It is, I live off Soule Rd about 1/4 mile from 31. There was a moratorium on building anything for quite a while until about 2 -3 years ago. Now we have 2 new car dealerships, car wash, Hotel, body shop and TX Roadhouse is coming along with I am sure a ton more stuff as there is still a ton of land not used on 31.

Between Fox Chevy and Pathfinder Bank and between Pathfinder and Kohls.

 

[skurey]

As long as it's not a dealership I'm happy with it

 

[CuseOnly]

I like Texas Roadhouse...what we need is a Best Buy...err wait...

 

[shandeezy7]

Speaking of W. Onondaga St, the Syracuse Land Bank just put out an RFP for this beautiful old mansion:

 

[sutomcat]

Speaking of W. Onondaga St, the Syracuse Land Bank just put out an RFP for this beautiful old mansion:

What a beautiful house. What a shame it is in this shape today.

 

[Trueblue25]

See a list of projects included in $200M fueling Syracuse Surge

Any summary for these articles? Ive reached the end of my freebies. Still on the fence for subscribing but wont now.

 

[Trueblue25]

By the way, i recommend salt city coffee to anyone who’s not tried it.

Shame they were recently burglarized but their patrons rallied in support.

 

[shandeezy7]

Any summary for these articles? Ive reached the end of my freebies. Still on the fence for subscribing but wont now.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe you may still be able to access these articles in incognito mode or if you clear your browser's cache. Perhaps they have patched that up though so it's no longer the case?

 

[Trueblue25]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe you may still be able to access these articles in incognito mode or if you clear your browser's cache. Perhaps they have patched that up though so it's no longer the case?

They’ve sorted that out

 

[OttoMets]

Speaking of W. Onondaga St, the Syracuse Land Bank just put out an RFP for this beautiful old mansion:

This is where the Land Bank really shows its worth.

There's a market for converted residences. The location, despite the situation with street people and the reputation, is actually pretty good. And tax incentives can mostly bridge the gap in getting the building renovated. Piece by piece, this is how to stabilize a troubled neighborhood.

 

[OttoMets]

And Assemblywomen Pam Hunter just endorsed the Community Grid.

That's big news, as she was a vocal holdout. She lives on the east side of the city but represents a district that straddles the DeWitt line and includes a lot of neighborhoods with very vocal opponents. Apparently groups like Suburbs for the Grid helped her change her mind.

Now do you all want some OttoMets editorializing? No? Too bad. This is politically advantageous, but I've been disgusted by her stance from the beginning and am disappointed at the praise she's beginning to receive for this endorsement. She was wrong from the jump. There were two proper stances for a politician to take: 1) "Urban and transportation planning decisions should be made by the knowledgeable paid professionals who do this for a living, and I'm not included in that group," or 2) "The paid professionals who make urban and transportation planning and policy decisions recommend Course of Action X, so that's what I support."

But she didn't. And she's still stubbornly resisting all propriety and logic. What's her rationale now? That enough constituents support it that she now supports it. No acknowledgement that politicians should stay out of these policy decisions. Just a tacit support for some type of asinine "policy by referendum" approach.

Not a fan, even if I like the outcome.

 

[Trueblue25]

There an initiative to bring some energy to the Westcott/university area this year? I saw a bunch of new restaurant/coffee places planned or already established there

 

[OttoMets]

There an initiative to bring some energy to the Westcott/university area this year? I saw a bunch of new restaurant/coffee places planned or already established there

NIMBYs have crushed a very solid proposal for the Dorians/Fast Break site. Stay tuned.

 

[shandeezy7]

There an initiative to bring some energy to the Westcott/university area this year? I saw a bunch of new restaurant/coffee places planned or already established there

This is from a few weeks ago:

Westcott developer proposing new retail, apartment space for neighborhood

 

[shandeezy7]

NIMBYs have crushed a very solid proposal for the Dorians/Fast Break site. Stay tuned.

Wow really? That's awful.

 

[Trueblue25]

NIMBYs have crushed a very solid proposal for the Dorians/Fast Break site. Stay tuned.

Thats a shame. I saw a wine and dine was going in. Peaks mountain coffee went in more towards the bottom of the hill.

That whole area south of e. fayette has a lot to offer imo.

 

[OttoMets]

Thats a shame. I saw a wine and dine was going in. Peaks mountain coffee went in more towards the bottom of the hill.

That whole area south of e. fayette has a lot to offer imo.

I think the wine bar's still on. There's brown paper on the windows. So that's good. But what's really needed is more residential density, especially more 12-month-a-year density. It is difficult for high-quality food places to survive in the summer.

I agree that the adjacent neighborhood around East Fayette is in an interesting position; it's changed a lot in a decade and it's anyone's guess what the continued residential construction in the East Genesee corridor does to both development of services and residential demand.

 

[JrodCuse]

Speaking of W. Onondaga St, the Syracuse Land Bank just put out an RFP for this beautiful old mansion:

Man this looks like the house from american horror story season 1. What a creepy show that season was!

 

[Trueblue25]

I think the wine bar's still on. There's brown paper on the windows. So that's good. But what's really needed is more residential density, especially more 12-month-a-year density. It is difficult for high-quality food places to survive in the summer.

I agree that the adjacent neighborhood around East Fayette is in an interesting position; it's changed a lot in a decade and it's anyone's guess what the continued residential construction in the East Genesee corridor does to both development of services and residential demand.

Though absurdly expensive, I believe the higher quality off campus student housing lofts/apartments popping up will only help.

 

[Cusefan0307]

And Assemblywomen Pam Hunter just endorsed the Community Grid.

That's big news, as she was a vocal holdout. She lives on the east side of the city but represents a district that straddles the DeWitt line and includes a lot of neighborhoods with very vocal opponents. Apparently groups like Suburbs for the Grid helped her change her mind.

Now do you all want some OttoMets editorializing? No? Too bad. This is politically advantageous, but I've been disgusted by her stance from the beginning and am disappointed at the praise she's beginning to receive for this endorsement. She was wrong from the jump. There were two proper stances for a politician to take: 1) "Urban and transportation planning decisions should be made by the knowledgeable paid professionals who do this for a living, and I'm not included in that group," or 2) "The paid professionals who make urban and transportation planning and policy decisions recommend Course of Action X, so that's what I support."

But she didn't. And she's still stubbornly resisting all propriety and logic. What's her rationale now? That enough constituents support it that she now supports it. No acknowledgement that politicians should stay out of these policy decisions. Just a tacit support for some type of asinine "policy by referendum" approach.

Not a fan, even if I like the outcome.

When are we going to get an answer from Albany? The string along here is getting ridiculous...

 

[KellySyracuse]

it's astonishing to me that Katko is conducting town halls about 81 at this late date. When you look at how much property would need to be demolished in the city to accommodate the tunnel it should be taken off the table as an option.

 

[OttoMets]

When are we going to get an answer from Albany? The string along here is getting ridiculous...

I'm amazed it's not public yet. No clue what the delay is.

 

[OttoMets]

it's astonishing to me that Katko is conducting town halls about 81 at this late date. When you look at how much property would need to be demolished in the city to accommodate the tunnel it should be taken off the table as an option.

Read between the lines and you just answered your own question, Kelly. His timing says everything about what the DEIS eliminates as an option.

 

[OttoMets]

Though absurdly expensive, I believe the higher quality off campus student housing lofts/apartments popping up will only help.

Though there are still reasonable questions about their effect on demand on the existing rental stock, I agree that higher-quality options are a good thing. But I'd feel better still if they were unfurnished with fewer bedrooms and 12-month lease terms. Even better if they included an affordable component.