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Couldn't agree more. Yes, adding greenery is purely for aesthetic reasons and that IMO is good. Why would you want a bunch of dirty concrete that will be an eyesore after a few Syracuse winters when you could have something that adds some visual appeal?
I think you vastly overestimate the city's competency with maintaining greenery. Greenery at face value is refreshing. Weeds are also green, and that's the type of green we'll be seeing after the first year. The feds won't pay for weedkiller once the interstate is decommisioned.
 
I think you vastly overestimate the city's competency with maintaining greenery. Greenery at face value is refreshing. Weeds are also green, and that's the type of green we'll be seeing after the first year. The feds won't pay for weedkiller once the interstate is decommisioned.
Easy - roll out some old Dome turf and call it a day.

Seriously though, you are probably right on that. I'm spoiled here in the Atlanta suburbs where most of the medians are full of trees/plants and fairly well maintained.
You could always go with some sort of hardscape but I'm sure that would not be cost effective.
 
Easy - roll out some old Dome turf and call it a day.

Seriously though, you are probably right on that. I'm spoiled here in the Atlanta suburbs where most of the medians are full of trees/plants and fairly well maintained.
You could always go with some sort of hardscape but I'm sure that would not be cost effective.
proper landscape maintenance is expensive, especially to the extent that is being touted. Talking millions of dollars annually and I’m sure that is not being factored in. That’s why we’ll end up with weeds, dead grass, and sickly trees.
 
I think you vastly overestimate the city's competency with maintaining greenery. Greenery at face value is refreshing. Weeds are also green, and that's the type of green we'll be seeing after the first year. The feds won't pay for weedkiller once the interstate is decommisioned.
you could volunteer to help keep the city weed free, you seem to have a stray hair about it for some reason.

I've done the earth day clean ups for the city, I think I picked up a million cigarette butts each time. If you're on a mission to end weeds would you mind taking up a crusade against people throwing their trash out the window as they fly by through the city on the current interstate?
 
you could volunteer to help keep the city weed free, you seem to have a stray hair about it for some reason.

I've done the earth day clean ups for the city, I think I picked up a million cigarette butts each time. If you're on a mission to end weeds would you mind taking up a crusade against people throwing their trash out the window as they fly by through the city on the current interstate?
Volunteering isn’t a solution; it’s a band-aid. I’m not against weeds. I’m against the idea of medians that will eventually harbor these weeds unless there’s a guarantee that the feds will pay for upkeep
 
Volunteering isn’t a solution; it’s a band-aid. I’m not against weeds. I’m against the idea of medians that will eventually harbor these weeds unless there’s a guarantee that the feds will pay for upkeep

Well you have the opportunity to voice your opinion here:

https://www.dot.ny.gov/i81opportunities/contactus

You can also let them know about your beef with having to add 5-10 minutes to your daily commute because isn't that what all this ranting is about?
 
Well you have the opportunity to voice your opinion here:

https://www.dot.ny.gov/i81opportunities/contactus

You can also let them know about your beef with having to add 5-10 minutes to your daily commute because isn't that what all this ranting is about?
Actually no, it’s not. They made their decision. Now it’s about executing the grid plan using common sense and weedless initiatives. No point in debating the tunnel and commute times any further. Kind of like the pointless man vs zone debates.
 
Actually no, it’s not. They made their decision. Now it’s about executing the grid plan using common sense and weedless initiatives. No point in debating the tunnel and commute times any further. Kind of like the pointless man vs zone debates.
The tunnel was a diversion. If you read the details about what it would entail, you would quickly conclude that it was not a serious option--just a Hail Mary by a few local special interests. The whole process is maybe 2 years behind where it should be because of their political shenanigans.
 
Because it's unused space. I mean, sure, medians are nice, but after recapturing this land, you're just going to take a slice of it away again for a non-productive use? It's not like we don't have parks nearby, and bike lanes don't go in the middle of the street in a median.

I agree. This feels like a wasted opportunity. Im not sure what they can do with it, but do something.
 
Is it really that bad that there wont be a 690 to 81 north interchange? They've already stated that Bear St. will be greatly improved. With this and Hiawatha, I think it'll be fine. Sure its a little busy for rush hour after work( i drive it every day) but its not like its some huge hassle to get on 81 north. After its all said and done it will probably be faster
 
We wanted to host a client event at the Hotel Syracuse. 2-3x more expensive than other hotels in the area. Couple that with inconvenient parking, and it's not ideal.
 
We wanted to host a client event at the Hotel Syracuse. 2-3x more expensive than other hotels in the area. Couple that with inconvenient parking, and it's not ideal.
I had a couple of days of meetings there a while ago. I parked kitty corner to the hotel and walked a block to the main entrance. It worked out well for me...
 
We wanted to host a client event at the Hotel Syracuse. 2-3x more expensive than other hotels in the area. Couple that with inconvenient parking, and it's not ideal.

Is a several hundred car parking garage kitty corner from the Hotel Syracuse really inconvenient? Were you hoping that they would have parking in the lobby?
 
Dumb question but I have less confidence in the city plowing the street than I do in maintaining a green median. the current strategy on city streets seems to be let traffic pat the snow down - will that be the same for the new roads?
 
Dumb question but I have less confidence in the city plowing the street than I do in maintaining a green median. the current strategy on city streets seems to be let traffic pat the snow down - will that be the same for the new roads?

Given the classification, NYSDOT's probably on the hook for plowing. Not sure they'll do much better, but they've got deeper pockets.
 
Dumb question but I have less confidence in the city plowing the street than I do in maintaining a green median. the current strategy on city streets seems to be let traffic pat the snow down - will that be the same for the new roads?
With snow they have to do something. Medians overrun with weeds do not present a crisis. Show me a well-manicured median in the city and it will be the first. The city is facing an annual budget deficit. They will not allocate $3 million every year for this and I don't blame them.
 
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proper landscape maintenance is expensive, especially to the extent that is being touted. Talking millions of dollars annually and I’m sure that is not being factored in. That’s why we’ll end up with weeds, dead grass, and sickly trees.
Greenery? Maintenance? fill that biotch with billboards!!!
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Our clients are generally 65+
so what you do is, you pull in to the parking garage that is 1/2 block from the hotel. you get a ticket from the thing and then you park. on your way out, you pay and exit the garage. if that is too complicated for your clientele than i would posit that the hotel syracuse wasnt the place for your event to start with.
 
Medians are a maintentance PITA and the city does not have the budget to keep up with the required landscaping suggested in the renderings. Weeds start growing and within a year it will look like Erie Blvd. Just separate the north-south traffic flow on BL81 with post dividers which takes up the least amount of space.


I work downtown and the City does a very nice job with upkeep on hanging plants, small green spaces, etc. I believe it's Parks Dept. employees who do a lot of the work.
 
I work downtown and the City does a very nice job with upkeep on hanging plants, small green spaces, etc. I believe it's Parks Dept. employees who do a lot of the work.
Is Erie Blvd outside of their wheelhouse? That's the closest analog I can come up with for BL81. Those medians are just fugly and attract panhandlers.
 

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