Development in and Around Syracuse Discussion

[JeremyCuse]

The community grid is a millenial magnet. No question. Build it and they will come.

Somebody better start stacking up inventory of PBR.

LOL, at this point its all craft all the time. New England Style IPA's, Sours, DIPA, Double dry hopped IPAs and Pale Ales, Quads etc etc. Otto Mets crew is only drinking PBR on throwback nights.

 

[Cusester]

The original picture of a row of London plane trees does not do the beauty of the species justice. They are a gorgeous tree that deserves to be more widely planted.

 

[reedny]

There is a significant commitment to technology and the drone industry. It’s attracting younger people from out of town. Those individuals are also driving up the real estate market for the first time in forever.

Exciting for economic development, not so great for quiet enjoyment in the suburbs.

 

[rocklloyd]

The community grid is a millenial magnet. No question. Build it and they will come.

Somebody better start stacking up inventory of PBR.

stocking up on PBR and beard trimmers.

 

[sutomcat]

The original picture of a row of London plane trees does not do the beauty of the species justice. They are a gorgeous tree that deserves to be more widely planted.

That is a more flattering picture for sure.

In 1950, there were over 50,000 elms in the city of Syracuse. Yes, they are a magnificent tree but when you go all in on a given species, you expose yourself to diseases and run the risk of losing most of your canopy in the event of a calamity.

That happened in Syracuse and it is important to not repeat history. That said, I think having a row of trees of the same species lining a neighborhood block is so much more aesthetically pleasing than having a random mix of different types of trees. Maybe that is the compromise between looks and longevity that we need to have maximum success here.

What if some day down the road,one block of James Street was lined with elms, with the next lined with oaks, the next with dogwood and the next with sycamores? What if residents had a say in what trees were planted on the block they lived on? What if people started to learn about trees, started to care about them and started to take pride in this part of the appearance of their neighborhood?

I think it could change the city in a matter of years, and truly make Syracuse a tree city.

 

[TexanMark]

White Flowering Dogwoods would be beautiful as well

Cloud 9 Dogwood

Resplendent but do their flowers last for months?

 

[KellySyracuse]

Resplendent but do their flowers last for months?

found this on the Tree Center website:

Appearance
Compared to other Cornus florida varieties, the Cloud 9 blooms very early, getting your garden off to a flying start after the winter. The flowers will be at their height from mid-April to mid-May, and this Dogwood has a particularly rich crop; at the height of its bloom the tree’s appearance is completely dominated by them. When the fruit appears in late summer it’s just as plentiful, and its bright red color gives the tree a new, rich appearance. As fall closes in the foliage turns a particularly beautiful red with a strong hint of rust, making for one final display before winter arrives.

 

[lincolncuse]

LOL, at this point its all craft all the time. New England Style IPA's, Sours, DIPA, Double dry hopped IPAs and Pale Ales, Quads etc etc. Otto Mets crew is only drinking PBR on throwback nights.

He really enjoys Miller Lite so I suspect he’s been corrupted by the corn syrup lobby

 

[JeremyCuse]

He really enjoys Miller Lite so I suspect he’s been corrupted by the corn syrup lobby

He's not adverse to a Claw Hard Seltzer when he busts out the extra tight t-shirt for certain game days.

 

[CuseLegacy]

 

[TexanMark]

This millennial report (#3 Cuse): Could the numbers be skewed with the large amount of upper tiered apartments built close to the university that have opened in the last few years? I'd really look at that first to see if it is a lot of college student rentals.

 

[Cusefan0307]

This millennial report (#3 Cuse): Could the numbers be skewed with the large amount of upper tiered apartments built close to the university that have opened in the last few years? I'd really look at that first to see if it is a lot of college student rentals.

Millennial stop in 98. Most moving here would already be graduated. The youngest kids 19-21 are generation Z.

 

[TexanMark]

Millennial stop in 98. Most moving here would already be graduated. The youngest kids 19-21 are generation Z.

You guys are all millennials to me. BTW, get off my lawn.

I think it might still be a valid point as it covers a period of time and the info is only as good as the info consolidators.

 

[FrancoPizza]

Resplendent but do their flowers last for months?

Most flowering trees will look spectacular for about 1 week in northern zones before the petals or bracts fall. Some have a nice burst of spring color and fall foliage but there’s no magic specimen or cultivar that reliably gives you everything or else you’d see it in everyone’s yards. You have to be further south to have some luck with the repeat bloomers.

 

[wiseman3]

The community grid is a millenial magnet. No question. Build it and they will come.

Somebody better start stacking up inventory of PBR.

I'll only come if there is Avocado Toast

 

[OttoMets]

This millennial report (#3 Cuse): Could the numbers be skewed with the large amount of upper tiered apartments built close to the university that have opened in the last few years? I'd really look at that first to see if it is a lot of college student rentals.

Since New Haven and Madison are the other cities in the top three, I think you might be on to something here.

 

[IthacaMatt]

stocking up on PBR and beard trimmers.

I read an article the other day that said there is more bacteria in a man's beard than there is on a dog! Ewww.

 

[KellySyracuse]

in news that should be of no surprise to anyone...

Would I-81 community grid plan really hurt Destiny USA? Report, expert says no

"Syracuse, N.Y. -- The owners of Destiny USA having been lobbying for six years to kill any I-81 rebuild plan that eliminates high-speed highway access to the big Syracuse shopping mall.

They joined forces with suburban elected officials and a group of hotel owners in nearby Salina to speak against tearing down the aging elevated section of the interstate through downtown Syracuse and replace it with a street-level boulevard.

...Do they have reason to worry? Not according to the state transportation officials. They say the community grid would have little to no impact on the mall.

“Regionally, although I-81 would be rerouted along the current I-481 alignment, highway connections to Destiny USA would continue from all directions,” the department said in its draft design report and environmental impact statement. “Although travel times from the south may increase, the change would be small and unlikely to affect visitation from regional consumers.”

 

[Cusefan0307]

Since New Haven and Madison are the other cities in the top three, I think you might be on to something here.

Maybe. Maybe not.

There was a study posted on the OT board showing productivity, standard of living, wage growth, and median earnings change are all increasing above the US average. Jobs at new firms are also up almost 4%. I think that's correlated to the study posted here.

 

[shandeezy7]

in news that should be of no surprise to anyone...

Would I-81 community grid plan really hurt Destiny USA? Report, expert says no

"Syracuse, N.Y. -- The owners of Destiny USA having been lobbying for six years to kill any I-81 rebuild plan that eliminates high-speed highway access to the big Syracuse shopping mall.

They joined forces with suburban elected officials and a group of hotel owners in nearby Salina to speak against tearing down the aging elevated section of the interstate through downtown Syracuse and replace it with a street-level boulevard.

...Do they have reason to worry? Not according to the state transportation officials. They say the community grid would have little to no impact on the mall.

“Regionally, although I-81 would be rerouted along the current I-481 alignment, highway connections to Destiny USA would continue from all directions,” the department said in its draft design report and environmental impact statement. “Although travel times from the south may increase, the change would be small and unlikely to affect visitation from regional consumers.”

As I've said all along - how much daily traffic does the mall get from folks driving by on 81 and saying "oh hey, there's a mall, let's stop!"? That number has to be negligible. People that are going to the mall are ones that have decided that they are going to the mall long before they drive by it, and if it takes a few extra minutes to get there, it's in no way a deterrent.

 

[Cusefan0307]

I drive by the mall 2 to 4 times a day and go maybe once a year and that's usually to meet some friend at some bar.

 

[KellySyracuse]

I can get on board with some of these suggestions:

Business Leaders Outline "Community Grid Plus" Plan For I-81 Replacement

"Some Central New York business leaders are advocating for some changes to be made regarding the community grid option to replace a portion of Interstate 81 through the city of Syracuse.

Centerstate CEO leaders are hoping to get people onboard with what they're calling "Community Grid Plus."

During a meeting the development organization had in Manlius on Tuesday, they revealed an extra 10 points to their plan that are not included in the current community grid option.

The plan, as outlined by Centerstate CEO, includes:

• A comprehensive investment in modern public transit, including bus rapid transit, in parallel with any decision on I-81
• More significant improvements to the I-481 corridor than those presented by NYSDOT, and urges other key enhancements, such as improvements to Bear Street in the Inner Harbor
• An economic mitigation fund for affected stakeholders and municipalities to prepare for the projects potential impacts on local businesses
• A locally-led revitalization commission to ensure the redevelopment projects are inclusive, with strong MWBE and local participation, and to encourage mixed-income projects
• The highest quality design consistent with its urban setting
• A coordinated regional approach to shift truck traffic away from towns, villages and our drinking water
• Revisiting the elimination of Thruway tolls in the Syracuse area, among others.

 

[TexanMark]

There is no reason why tolls can't be suspended from Exits 39 to 34A. While they are at it put in EZPass lanes with optical/electronic scanners to bypass the toll collectors

 

[gocusecaz]

There is no reason why tolls can't be suspended from Exits 39 to 34A. While they are at it put in EZPass lanes with optical/electronic scanners to bypass the toll collectors

I think the state is already working on getting rid of the toll booths. It will be the ez pass or plate reader to collect the tolls

 

[Newhouser]

I can get on board with some of these suggestions:

Business Leaders Outline "Community Grid Plus" Plan For I-81 Replacement

"Some Central New York business leaders are advocating for some changes to be made regarding the community grid option to replace a portion of Interstate 81 through the city of Syracuse.

Centerstate CEO leaders are hoping to get people onboard with what they're calling "Community Grid Plus."

During a meeting the development organization had in Manlius on Tuesday, they revealed an extra 10 points to their plan that are not included in the current community grid option.

The plan, as outlined by Centerstate CEO, includes:

• A comprehensive investment in modern public transit, including bus rapid transit, in parallel with any decision on I-81
• More significant improvements to the I-481 corridor than those presented by NYSDOT, and urges other key enhancements, such as improvements to Bear Street in the Inner Harbor
• An economic mitigation fund for affected stakeholders and municipalities to prepare for the projects potential impacts on local businesses
• A locally-led revitalization commission to ensure the redevelopment projects are inclusive, with strong MWBE and local participation, and to encourage mixed-income projects
• The highest quality design consistent with its urban setting
• A coordinated regional approach to shift truck traffic away from towns, villages and our drinking water
• Revisiting the elimination of Thruway tolls in the Syracuse area, among others.

Centerstate puts themselves out there after the fact and rarely delivers on anything. If one thing is changed though they will issue a release to take credit.