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"DEWITT, N.Y. -- A Buffalo-based developer representing a “national logistics company” is proposing a 112,000-square-foot warehouse and distribution center in DeWitt.

The center would be built on a 42-acre parcel at 6834 Kirkville Road next to Interstate 481, according to plans submitted to the town of DeWitt. The site, owned by Magnum Properties, a division of the Widewaters Group, also has access to railroad service and isn’t far from the state Thruway."
 

"DEWITT, N.Y. -- A Buffalo-based developer representing a “national logistics company” is proposing a 112,000-square-foot warehouse and distribution center in DeWitt.

The center would be built on a 42-acre parcel at 6834 Kirkville Road next to Interstate 481, according to plans submitted to the town of DeWitt. The site, owned by Magnum Properties, a division of the Widewaters Group, also has access to railroad service and isn’t far from the state Thruway."

Interesting. I may have mentioned this earlier in this thread, but I always wondered why there weren't more distribution centers in the Syracuse area - similar to those massive ones that have popped up over the years in the Scranton area - due to being at the crossroads of 81 and the Thruway (and being close to a shipping port in Oswego.
 

"DEWITT, N.Y. -- A Buffalo-based developer representing a “national logistics company” is proposing a 112,000-square-foot warehouse and distribution center in DeWitt.

The center would be built on a 42-acre parcel at 6834 Kirkville Road next to Interstate 481, according to plans submitted to the town of DeWitt. The site, owned by Magnum Properties, a division of the Widewaters Group, also has access to railroad service and isn’t far from the state Thruway."
This is great. I have driven passed this empty field for 30+ years and have patiently waited for something to pop up here.
 
Whatever happened to the Inland Port Project that was supposed to be located in the old quarry across from the Rock Cut Road garbage burning steam plant? State funding was secured a few years ago as part of an Empire Grant (or some such thing). Project was supposed to generate 2,000 jobs which were touted as a way to revitalize inner city home ownership on the Syracuse south side.
 
Whatever happened to the Inland Port Project that was supposed to be located in the old quarry across from the Rock Cut Road garbage burning steam plant? State funding was secured a few years ago as part of an Empire Grant (or some such thing). Project was supposed to generate 2,000 jobs which were touted as a way to revitalize inner city home ownership on the Syracuse south side.
thought I heard that the railyard in East Syracuse was the choice for the project. I'll bet that the warehouse would be the positive sign that the project is definitely going there.
 
Whatever happened to the Inland Port Project that was supposed to be located in the old quarry across from the Rock Cut Road garbage burning steam plant? State funding was secured a few years ago as part of an Empire Grant (or some such thing). Project was supposed to generate 2,000 jobs which were touted as a way to revitalize inner city home ownership on the Syracuse south side.

Like many promising projects, NIMBY's killed it.
 

"DEWITT, N.Y.-- A 112,000-square-foot warehouse/distribution center proposed in DeWitt is “100 percent” for Amazon, according to a logistics expert.

Logistics expert Marc Wulfraat told Syracuse.com | The Post-Standard in an interview Wednesday that every indicator points to Amazon: the size of the building, its large lot with ample space for trucks and employee parking, its code name, the design, the developer and its location close to railroads and highways.

The developer proposing the center in DeWitt - Montante Construction of Buffalo - is currently building a similar distribution center in Tonawanda for online giant worldwide retailer Amazon.

The plans submitted by the company to DeWitt and Tonawanda officials use similar or identical language to describe the projects.

...Wulfratt, president of MWPVL International, a Montreal global supply chain and logistics consulting firm, said there’s no doubt the DeWitt center will be a “last-mile delivery station” for Amazon. It’s where all packages for the Syracuse market will arrive, be sorted and then be placed onto vans to be delivered to people’s homes or designated Amazon lockers, he said. "
 
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"The DeWitt center would complement the $280 million distribution center in Clay, also believed by Wulfratt and other experts to be being built for Amazon.

...With a metropolitan population of about 650,000 in Syracuse, Wulfraat said the city qualifies as a large enough market for Amazon.

"Amazon is working its way down the list of American cities, slowly taking over the outbound transportation of their goods rather than outsourcing the shipping,'' he said. “They are hitting other cities the size of Syracuse with these centers - Akron, Boise, Colorado Springs.”
 

Not sure the scale is correct for that neighborhood (what's left of it, at least), but it's good news that they don't plan on demolishing the temple.

This is where some old-fashioned NIMBYism (or just proper use of zoning) would actually be a good thing.

That's too much density for the neighborhood, especially if 75% of those 202 residents own their own car.

It's a shame Concord can't justify staying in its campus. There's got to be a good solution for this problem. I don't know what it is. This isn't it.
 
This is where some old-fashioned NIMBYism (or just proper use of zoning) would actually be a good thing.

That's too much density for the neighborhood, especially if 75% of those 202 residents own their own car.

It's a shame Concord can't justify staying in its campus. There's got to be a good solution for this problem. I don't know what it is. This isn't it.

I believe there is an attached parking lot, but my guess is it holds 40-50 cars max. Didn't see anything in the article that mentioned an underground garage or anything like that. I do love that the developer said the new building would provide a "modest" background to the temple. Sir, I don't think that word means what you think it means.
 
it's about damn time, I've been harping on this since 2003. The only way to improve stadium attendance is to improve the surrounding area. I hope it means the adult clubs will get the heave ho to somewhere where there isn't a residential neighborhood

The main idea is to focus the strategy for attracting new businesses and improving neighborhoods to a select group of business corridors and city blocks. The 10 priority commercial corridors are:
  • Butternut Street & Grant Boulevard
  • Wolf Street
  • North Salina Street
  • South Salina Street
  • South Avenue
  • James Street
  • Burnet Avenue
  • Erie Boulevard East
  • West Onondaga Street
  • South Geddes Street
 
I like the new design that gets rid of the concrete bunker look. Does anyone remember what offices used to occupy this space? My first job out of college was in an office on the corner of Townsend and E. Fayette in the late '80s, I vaguely remember people milling in and out of that building

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I like the new design that gets rid of the concrete bunker look. Does anyone remember what offices used to occupy this space? My first job out of college was in an office on the corner of Townsend and E. Fayette in the late '80s, I vaguely remember people milling in and out of that building

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It's my least favorite building in downtown Syracuse. Brutalist architecture can be appealing, if done. right. This building was an architectural atrocity, and even though I'm not a huge fan of the redesign, it's much better than what's there now.
 
It's my least favorite building in downtown Syracuse. Brutalist architecture can be appealing, if done. right. This building was an architectural atrocity, and even though I'm not a huge fan of the redesign, it's much better than what's there now.

Even I applaud this, because it's a dead block and desperately needs 24 more sets of eyes on the street and potential patrons of XO Taco, the Fish Friar, and anything in between.

Now the ground floor parking arrangement sucks. It's terrible.

But the two obstacles for getting this building renovated have been asbestos and lack of parking. The first got cured at great expense about four years ago. Nobody's been able to tackle the parking. If the Landmark Preservation Board can sign off on a plan that preserves a safe sidewalk and keeps cars away from pedestrians and maintains some commercial storefront space, I'm supportive.
 
Even I applaud this, because it's a dead block and desperately needs 24 more sets of eyes on the street and potential patrons of XO Taco, the Fish Friar, and anything in between.

Now the ground floor parking arrangement sucks. It's terrible.

But the two obstacles for getting this building renovated have been asbestos and lack of parking. The first got cured at great expense about four years ago. Nobody's been able to tackle the parking. If the Landmark Preservation Board can sign off on a plan that preserves a safe sidewalk and keeps cars away from pedestrians and maintains some commercial storefront space, I'm supportive.
How is XO Taco?
 
Overpriced, way too hip, but kind of good if you go in with those expectations. A couple of their tacos are solid and oddly the cheeseburger is one of the best around.
Nice, I never know with some of the newer places. I usually go in with low expectations
 

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