Development in and Around Syracuse Discussion

[bevosu]

It's poorly worded, as I don't believe the building is being demolished and replaced with a parking lot. The building is being renovated while the already-existing parking lot - which I assume is in rough shape - will be replaced.

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I used to work in that building when it was Sealtest Ice Cream...way back when I was just out of high school. They paid well, better than entry level GE.

 

[longtimefan]

damn, this is big news dropping tonight

OCIDA Signs Off On Clay Distribution Center

What's a golf course today could be a distribution center tomorrow.

spectrumlocalnews.com

"What's a golf course today could be a distribution center tomorrow.

Industrial development leaders decided Thursday to move ahead with the $280 million project which is expected to create a thousand jobs. It wasn't all about money most of the conversation focused on the project's environmental impact.

"You go over every little thing, I mean to the extent of like natural habitats for bats, even though there's no bats on the golf course," said Ocida Chairmen Pat Hogan.

Bats, water, sewage and noise are just a few of the factors reviewed. But the biggest concern has been the traffic.

The Principal of Trammell Crow developments George Laigaie says they've done their best to remedy complaints concerning traffic."

With apologies to SWC--The Downside

Prime Anchor: An Amazon Warehouse Town Dreams of a Better Life (Published 2019)

In Campbellsville, Ky., the tech giant’s influences abound. The profits, not so much.

www.nytimes.com

 

[bevosu]

With apologies to SWCo--The Downside

Prime Anchor: An Amazon Warehouse Town Dreams of a Better Life (Published 2019)

In Campbellsville, Ky., the tech giant’s influences abound. The profits, not so much.

www.nytimes.com

I liked this NY Times reader's comment ...insisting the economy's better because stocks transiently go up while worker rights and benefits get maimed is covfefean.

 

[xc84]

I liked this NY Times reader's comment ...insisting the economy's better because stocks transiently go up while worker rights and benefits get maimed is covfefean.

When the market went up under Obama they claimed that was no big deal

 

[shandeezy7]

Love seeing these type of renovations taking place:

 

[KellySyracuse]

Developer for ‘national logistics’ firm proposes large distribution center in DeWitt

A 112,000-square-foot distribution center has been proposed on 42 acres on Kirkville Road along Interstate 481. If built, it would employ about 200 people, a county official said.

www.syracuse.com

"DEWITT, N.Y. -- A Buffalo-based developer representing a “national logistics company” is proposing a 112,000-square-foot warehouse and distribution center in DeWitt.

The center would be built on a 42-acre parcel at 6834 Kirkville Road next to Interstate 481, according to plans submitted to the town of DeWitt. The site, owned by Magnum Properties, a division of the Widewaters Group, also has access to railroad service and isn’t far from the state Thruway."

 

[shandeezy7]

Developer for ‘national logistics’ firm proposes large distribution center in DeWitt

A 112,000-square-foot distribution center has been proposed on 42 acres on Kirkville Road along Interstate 481. If built, it would employ about 200 people, a county official said.

www.syracuse.com

"DEWITT, N.Y. -- A Buffalo-based developer representing a “national logistics company” is proposing a 112,000-square-foot warehouse and distribution center in DeWitt.

The center would be built on a 42-acre parcel at 6834 Kirkville Road next to Interstate 481, according to plans submitted to the town of DeWitt. The site, owned by Magnum Properties, a division of the Widewaters Group, also has access to railroad service and isn’t far from the state Thruway."

Interesting. I may have mentioned this earlier in this thread, but I always wondered why there weren't more distribution centers in the Syracuse area - similar to those massive ones that have popped up over the years in the Scranton area - due to being at the crossroads of 81 and the Thruway (and being close to a shipping port in Oswego.

 

[justgold315]

Developer for ‘national logistics’ firm proposes large distribution center in DeWitt

A 112,000-square-foot distribution center has been proposed on 42 acres on Kirkville Road along Interstate 481. If built, it would employ about 200 people, a county official said.

www.syracuse.com

"DEWITT, N.Y. -- A Buffalo-based developer representing a “national logistics company” is proposing a 112,000-square-foot warehouse and distribution center in DeWitt.

The center would be built on a 42-acre parcel at 6834 Kirkville Road next to Interstate 481, according to plans submitted to the town of DeWitt. The site, owned by Magnum Properties, a division of the Widewaters Group, also has access to railroad service and isn’t far from the state Thruway."

This is great. I have driven passed this empty field for 30+ years and have patiently waited for something to pop up here.

 

[Noexcuse]

Whatever happened to the Inland Port Project that was supposed to be located in the old quarry across from the Rock Cut Road garbage burning steam plant? State funding was secured a few years ago as part of an Empire Grant (or some such thing). Project was supposed to generate 2,000 jobs which were touted as a way to revitalize inner city home ownership on the Syracuse south side.

 

[gocusecaz]

Whatever happened to the Inland Port Project that was supposed to be located in the old quarry across from the Rock Cut Road garbage burning steam plant? State funding was secured a few years ago as part of an Empire Grant (or some such thing). Project was supposed to generate 2,000 jobs which were touted as a way to revitalize inner city home ownership on the Syracuse south side.

thought I heard that the railyard in East Syracuse was the choice for the project. I'll bet that the warehouse would be the positive sign that the project is definitely going there.

 

[shandeezy7]

Whatever happened to the Inland Port Project that was supposed to be located in the old quarry across from the Rock Cut Road garbage burning steam plant? State funding was secured a few years ago as part of an Empire Grant (or some such thing). Project was supposed to generate 2,000 jobs which were touted as a way to revitalize inner city home ownership on the Syracuse south side.

Like many promising projects, NIMBY's killed it.

 

[KellySyracuse]

Large distribution center proposed in DeWitt ‘is 100 percent Amazon,' expert says

The proposed warehouse/distribution center is very similar to one being built near Buffalo by the same company for Amazon.

www.syracuse.com

"DEWITT, N.Y.-- A 112,000-square-foot warehouse/distribution center proposed in DeWitt is “100 percent” for Amazon, according to a logistics expert.

Logistics expert Marc Wulfraat told Syracuse.com | The Post-Standard in an interview Wednesday that every indicator points to Amazon: the size of the building, its large lot with ample space for trucks and employee parking, its code name, the design, the developer and its location close to railroads and highways.

The developer proposing the center in DeWitt - Montante Construction of Buffalo - is currently building a similar distribution center in Tonawanda for online giant worldwide retailer Amazon.

The plans submitted by the company to DeWitt and Tonawanda officials use similar or identical language to describe the projects.

...Wulfratt, president of MWPVL International, a Montreal global supply chain and logistics consulting firm, said there’s no doubt the DeWitt center will be a “last-mile delivery station” for Amazon. It’s where all packages for the Syracuse market will arrive, be sorted and then be placed onto vans to be delivered to people’s homes or designated Amazon lockers, he said. "

 

[KellySyracuse]

more...

"The DeWitt center would complement the $280 million distribution center in Clay, also believed by Wulfratt and other experts to be being built for Amazon.

...With a metropolitan population of about 650,000 in Syracuse, Wulfraat said the city qualifies as a large enough market for Amazon.

"Amazon is working its way down the list of American cities, slowly taking over the outbound transportation of their goods rather than outsourcing the shipping,'' he said. “They are hitting other cities the size of Syracuse with these centers - Akron, Boise, Colorado Springs.”

 

[Fly Rodder]

Amazon is working its way down the list of American cities, slowly taking over ...

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[Trueblue25]

Resistance is futile

 

[shandeezy7]

202-bed student apartments proposed at historic Temple Concord site in Syracuse

The development would keep most of the 109-year-old Jewish synagogue intact.

www.syracuse.com

Not sure the scale is correct for that neighborhood (what's left of it, at least), but it's good news that they don't plan on demolishing the temple.

 

[OttoMets]

202-bed student apartments proposed at historic Temple Concord site in Syracuse

The development would keep most of the 109-year-old Jewish synagogue intact.

www.syracuse.com

Not sure the scale is correct for that neighborhood (what's left of it, at least), but it's good news that they don't plan on demolishing the temple.

This is where some old-fashioned NIMBYism (or just proper use of zoning) would actually be a good thing.

That's too much density for the neighborhood, especially if 75% of those 202 residents own their own car.

It's a shame Concord can't justify staying in its campus. There's got to be a good solution for this problem. I don't know what it is. This isn't it.

 

[shandeezy7]

This is where some old-fashioned NIMBYism (or just proper use of zoning) would actually be a good thing.

That's too much density for the neighborhood, especially if 75% of those 202 residents own their own car.

It's a shame Concord can't justify staying in its campus. There's got to be a good solution for this problem. I don't know what it is. This isn't it.

I believe there is an attached parking lot, but my guess is it holds 40-50 cars max. Didn't see anything in the article that mentioned an underground garage or anything like that. I do love that the developer said the new building would provide a "modest" background to the temple. Sir, I don't think that word means what you think it means.

 

[shandeezy7]

Syracuse Region Economy Growth Far Outpacing Other Upstate Cities: 2019 Centerstate CEO Data

Economic data for the last year show the Syracuse economy enjoyed one of its best period of success in a long time. And officials at Centerstate C-E-O…

www.waer.org

 

[shandeezy7]

Ben Walsh to focus new city development along 10 business corridors

Walsh will outline his Resurgent Neighborhoods Initiative at the State of the City tonight

www.syracuse.com

 

[KellySyracuse]

it's about damn time, I've been harping on this since 2003. The only way to improve stadium attendance is to improve the surrounding area. I hope it means the adult clubs will get the heave ho to somewhere where there isn't a residential neighborhood

The main idea is to focus the strategy for attracting new businesses and improving neighborhoods to a select group of business corridors and city blocks. The 10 priority commercial corridors are:

• Butternut Street & Grant Boulevard
• Wolf Street
• North Salina Street
• South Salina Street
• South Avenue
• James Street
• Burnet Avenue
• Erie Boulevard East
• West Onondaga Street
• South Geddes Street

 

[ssbriefcase]

Syracuse Region Economy Growth Far Outpacing Other Upstate Cities: 2019 Centerstate CEO Data

Economic data for the last year show the Syracuse economy enjoyed one of its best period of success in a long time. And officials at Centerstate C-E-O…

www.waer.org

Love seeing this. Today I went to a vendor here in Denver and they had a bunch of JMA stuff in their showcase room. I get to decide what to buy on my projects, and I'll be helping out whenever I can.

 

[shandeezy7]

More development in Syracuse turning old building into 24 apartments

SYRACUSE, N.Y. (WSYR-TV) — A long-time vacant building in Downtown Syracuse, next to Firefighters Park, is finally going to be full again. Courtesy of Icon Companies Icon Companies, which is …

www.localsyr.com

 

[KellySyracuse]

More development in Syracuse turning old building into 24 apartments

SYRACUSE, N.Y. (WSYR-TV) — A long-time vacant building in Downtown Syracuse, next to Firefighters Park, is finally going to be full again. Courtesy of Icon Companies Icon Companies, which is …

www.localsyr.com

I like the new design that gets rid of the concrete bunker look. Does anyone remember what offices used to occupy this space? My first job out of college was in an office on the corner of Townsend and E. Fayette in the late '80s, I vaguely remember people milling in and out of that building

 

[shandeezy7]

I like the new design that gets rid of the concrete bunker look. Does anyone remember what offices used to occupy this space? My first job out of college was in an office on the corner of Townsend and E. Fayette in the late '80s, I vaguely remember people milling in and out of that building

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It's my least favorite building in downtown Syracuse. Brutalist architecture can be appealing, if done. right. This building was an architectural atrocity, and even though I'm not a huge fan of the redesign, it's much better than what's there now.