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KellySyracuse said:
Roger Misso has a scathing letter on Syracuse.com about the Amazon project and although I was for it I find most of his points hard to disagree with

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Onondaga County is getting played by Jeff Bezos, Amazon (Commentary)

"Amazon makes more profit in a month than the entire annual county budget — yet county taxpayers are handing them a gift," writes former candidate for Congress.
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It's hard to disagree with some of his points, and it's hard to root for Jeff Bezos. I'm not a huge fan of politicians of the major parties, either.

But it's not fair for Misso to focus only on Republicans, and ignore some of the NY Democrats' major economic development failures, e.g., the $3 billion in incentives they offered in a failed effort to lure Amazon to Long Island City. Also, building a $90 million factory in DeWitt at no cost to LED light bulb manufacturer Soraa. The company pulled out of the deal just as the state was completing construction, with no consequences for Soraa. At least Amazon will be creating actual jobs and making payments in lieu of taxes in Central New York.
 
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Why is cloudy Syracuse suddenly a solar farm magnet?

Syracuse, N.Y. — Syracuse, one of the cloudiest cities in the U.S., is drawing lots of interest from solar farm developers.

Projects have been proposed recently for multiple solar energy projects in Syracuse suburbs, including these that came before the Onondaga County Industrial Development Agency just this week:

  • In Cicero, Convergent Energy has proposed building two 5-megawatt solar farms on 44 acres off Totman and Island roads for $24.4 million.
  • In Clay, Green Street Power Partners has proposed building a 5-megawatt solar farm on 30 acres at 9177 Caughdenoy Road for $8.1 million.
  • In Lafayette, Green Street Power Partners has proposed building a 3.8-megawatt solar farm on 18 acres off Sentinel Heights Road for $6.1 million.
  • In Lysander, OYA Solar has proposed building 5-megawatt and a 1-megawatt solar farms on 11 acres off Church Road for $11.3 million.
Why is cloudy Syracuse suddenly a solar farm magnet?
 
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KellySyracuse said:
Roger Misso has a scathing letter on Syracuse.com about the Amazon project and although I was for it I find most of his points hard to disagree with

www.syracuse.com

Onondaga County is getting played by Jeff Bezos, Amazon (Commentary)

"Amazon makes more profit in a month than the entire annual county budget — yet county taxpayers are handing them a gift," writes former candidate for Congress.
www.syracuse.com www.syracuse.com

As an amazon worker didn’t see any point to disagree with him. It’s disgusting to see how much they have amazon to go there
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Mareiniss said:
It's hard to disagree with some of his points, and it's hard to root for Jeff Bezos. I'm not a huge fan of politicians of the major parties, either.

But it's not fair for Misso to focus only on Republicans, and ignore some of the NY Democrats' major economic development failures, e.g., the $3 billion in incentives they offered in a failed effort to lure Amazon to Long Island City. Also, building a $90 million factory in DeWitt at no cost to LED light bulb manufacturer Soraa. The company pulled out of the deal just as the state was completing construction, with no consequences for Soraa. At least Amazon will be creating actual jobs and making payments in lieu of taxes in Central New York.
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The amount of turnover will be insane I can guarantee. In “slow” times they will probably get rid of like 30-40 percent of its workforce over the year and keep cycling, not that many have longetivity there. I’ve been here 3 years and Jacksonville have 5 buildings, I’ve already been here longer then 70+% of all the workers here. As well a lot of the higher paying salary positions won’t be hired from here.
 
bevosu said:
Why is cloudy Syracuse suddenly a solar farm magnet?

Syracuse, N.Y. — Syracuse, one of the cloudiest cities in the U.S., is drawing lots of interest from solar farm developers.

Projects have been proposed recently for multiple solar energy projects in Syracuse suburbs, including these that came before the Onondaga County Industrial Development Agency just this week:

  • In Cicero, Convergent Energy has proposed building two 5-megawatt solar farms on 44 acres off Totman and Island roads for $24.4 million.
  • In Clay, Green Street Power Partners has proposed building a 5-megawatt solar farm on 30 acres at 9177 Caughdenoy Road for $8.1 million.
  • In Lafayette, Green Street Power Partners has proposed building a 3.8-megawatt solar farm on 18 acres off Sentinel Heights Road for $6.1 million.
  • In Lysander, OYA Solar has proposed building 5-megawatt and a 1-megawatt solar farms on 11 acres off Church Road for $11.3 million.
Why is cloudy Syracuse suddenly a solar farm magnet?
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The question the headline poses says everything about their readership.
 
OttoMets said:
The question the headline poses says everything about their readership.
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And their editorial staff but this is really about click bait headlines for advertising dollars. Advance Media finally offered a $100 yearly subscription that I purchased because I want to support local journalism. The way they have been selling their service is completely asinine, one day it could be $15 a month and log in later and it was $12 a month. No wonder they were having subscription issues.
 
I don't think there is another online newspaper on the interwebs that runs the same story/stories on their home page for as many days in a row as syracuse.com.
 
Owner of Pizze Fritte setting up drive-in movies at New York State Fairgrounds

"A drive-in movie theater is being set up at the New York State Fairgrounds’ Orange Lot, Villa Pizze Fritte owner Grazi Zazzara Sr. confirmed Wednesday night.

Zazzara said the idea had been in the works for about a month, but was approved last week. It’s unclear when the drive-in will start showing movies because forecasts call for rain on Friday and Saturday, Zazzara said.

“It seems to be very popular right now,” Zazzara said of drive-in movies.

...Zazzara’s drive-in will likely be able to fit 300 cars with social distancing. He said he’s hoping to allow people to sit in lawn chairs in front of their cars.

In addition to using an FM transmitter, the theater will feature exterior speakers.

During the coronavirus pandemic, Zazzara’s drive-thru version of Villa Pizze Fritte has been a hit..."
 
I wonder what Destiny USA will look like at this time next year. How many store fronts will be vacant and how many will try to break their lease with JC Penney calling it quits there. Will be interesting to see how it unfolds.

From the Washington Post:
Hard-hit retailers projected to shutter as many as 25,000 stores this year, mostly in malls

"U.S. retailers will shutter 20,000 to 25,000 stores this year, according to projections released Tuesday by Coresight Research, with as much as 60 percent of those closures occurring in malls...

...many brands, various phases of “reopening” won’t come soon enough. J. Crew, Neiman Marcus, J.C. Penney, Tuesday Morning and Stage Stores — which operates hundreds of Palais Royal, Bealls and Goody’s locations — have all filed for bankruptcy. Brooks Brothers is in talks with banks about financing for a possible bankruptcy that could come as soon as next month, CNBC reported. And Tailored Brands, which owns Men’s Wearhouse and Jos. A. Bank, is considering the same fate, according to Bloomberg News...

In pockets, some higher-end malls invested millions of dollars to reinvent themselves, drawing crowds with glitzy attractions such as yoga studios, pop-ups and microbreweries. But lower-tier properties only fell further behind, especially as anchor department stores dropped. Smaller tenants may be able to negotiate lower rents or break their leases if an anchor leaves, the report noted, contributing to “a ripple effect that spells bad news for malls."
 
KellySyracuse said:
I wonder what Destiny USA will look like at this time next year. How many store fronts will be vacant and how many will try to break their lease with JC Penney calling it quits there. Will be interesting to see how it unfolds.

From the Washington Post:
Hard-hit retailers projected to shutter as many as 25,000 stores this year, mostly in malls
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Probably similar to Shoppingtown. Retailers have been moving out of malls for 20 years, sped up by online shopping, and the pandemic is only going to accelerate the exodus. I'm pretty happy with most of the online shopping I've done to this point, with the exception of being able to put my hands on some things to see if I even want to bother with ordering and returning, etc.
 
KellySyracuse said:
Love to see this, that place has been vacant a long time.
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And seriously dirty. I'm a little surprised to learn about redevelopment, actually. I think it's one of the most polluted properties in the region.
 
Fly Rodder said:
Probably similar to Shoppingtown. Retailers have been moving out of malls for 20 years, sped up by online shopping, and the pandemic is only going to accelerate the exodus. I'm pretty happy with most of the online shopping I've done to this point, with the exception of being able to put my hands on some things to see if I even want to bother with ordering and returning, etc.
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Right, the only time I go to the mall is when I need something now or for the entertainment places such as WOB or the movie theater.

Shortly after the local lock down started I ordered a bar table and stools from At Home from their website and was able to pick them up at their location at Destiny. After about 2 weeks the table started to develop a rust spot, since the store wasn't open I filed a notice on their website and received a case number. That was May 5th and I still have not heard anything from their customer service. My point is that if these places can't run a solid online experience there is no hope for their continued existence in a mall.
 
OttoMets said:
And seriously dirty. I'm a little surprised to learn about redevelopment, actually. I think it's one of the most polluted properties in the region.
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I guess I did read about the pollution there at one point, I just don't remember it
 
Hopefully it goes through...need the tax base and the jobs.

Syroco failed to keep innovating. I still remember those little square end tables with fixed legs and really sharp edges.
 
KellySyracuse said:
I wonder what Destiny USA will look like at this time next year. How many store fronts will be vacant and how many will try to break their lease with JC Penney calling it quits there. Will be interesting to see how it unfolds.

From the Washington Post:
Hard-hit retailers projected to shutter as many as 25,000 stores this year, mostly in malls

"U.S. retailers will shutter 20,000 to 25,000 stores this year, according to projections released Tuesday by Coresight Research, with as much as 60 percent of those closures occurring in malls...

...many brands, various phases of “reopening” won’t come soon enough. J. Crew, Neiman Marcus, J.C. Penney, Tuesday Morning and Stage Stores — which operates hundreds of Palais Royal, Bealls and Goody’s locations — have all filed for bankruptcy. Brooks Brothers is in talks with banks about financing for a possible bankruptcy that could come as soon as next month, CNBC reported. And Tailored Brands, which owns Men’s Wearhouse and Jos. A. Bank, is considering the same fate, according to Bloomberg News...

In pockets, some higher-end malls invested millions of dollars to reinvent themselves, drawing crowds with glitzy attractions such as yoga studios, pop-ups and microbreweries. But lower-tier properties only fell further behind, especially as anchor department stores dropped. Smaller tenants may be able to negotiate lower rents or break their leases if an anchor leaves, the report noted, contributing to “a ripple effect that spells bad news for malls."
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COVID just sped up Destiny's process to become more entertainment based and less retail oriented. Retail is a dog and it is why they are looking at transforming some of that area of parking lots by the Inner Harbor into an entertainment area. They know retail will not sustain them long term.
 
Newhouser said:
COVID just sped up Destiny's process to become more entertainment based and less retail oriented. Retail is a dog and it is why they are looking at transforming some of that area of parking lots by the Inner Harbor into an entertainment area. They know retail will not sustain them long term.
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Interesting. I'd love to see a TopGolf go in over there, plenty of room for it.
 

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