Development in and Around Syracuse Discussion

[KellySyracuse]

And seriously dirty. I'm a little surprised to learn about redevelopment, actually. I think it's one of the most polluted properties in the region.

I guess I did read about the pollution there at one point, I just don't remember it

 

[TexanMark]

Hopefully it goes through...need the tax base and the jobs.

Syroco failed to keep innovating. I still remember those little square end tables with fixed legs and really sharp edges.

 

[Newhouser]

I wonder what Destiny USA will look like at this time next year. How many store fronts will be vacant and how many will try to break their lease with JC Penney calling it quits there. Will be interesting to see how it unfolds.

From the Washington Post:
Hard-hit retailers projected to shutter as many as 25,000 stores this year, mostly in malls

"U.S. retailers will shutter 20,000 to 25,000 stores this year, according to projections released Tuesday by Coresight Research, with as much as 60 percent of those closures occurring in malls...

...many brands, various phases of “reopening” won’t come soon enough. J. Crew, Neiman Marcus, J.C. Penney, Tuesday Morning and Stage Stores — which operates hundreds of Palais Royal, Bealls and Goody’s locations — have all filed for bankruptcy. Brooks Brothers is in talks with banks about financing for a possible bankruptcy that could come as soon as next month, CNBC reported. And Tailored Brands, which owns Men’s Wearhouse and Jos. A. Bank, is considering the same fate, according to Bloomberg News...

In pockets, some higher-end malls invested millions of dollars to reinvent themselves, drawing crowds with glitzy attractions such as yoga studios, pop-ups and microbreweries. But lower-tier properties only fell further behind, especially as anchor department stores dropped. Smaller tenants may be able to negotiate lower rents or break their leases if an anchor leaves, the report noted, contributing to “a ripple effect that spells bad news for malls."

COVID just sped up Destiny's process to become more entertainment based and less retail oriented. Retail is a dog and it is why they are looking at transforming some of that area of parking lots by the Inner Harbor into an entertainment area. They know retail will not sustain them long term.

 

[KellySyracuse]

COVID just sped up Destiny's process to become more entertainment based and less retail oriented. Retail is a dog and it is why they are looking at transforming some of that area of parking lots by the Inner Harbor into an entertainment area. They know retail will not sustain them long term.

Interesting. I'd love to see a TopGolf go in over there, plenty of room for it.

 

[rrlbees]

Interesting. I'd love to see a TopGolf go in over there, plenty of room for it.

what is topgolf?

 

[KellySyracuse]

what is topgolf?

A sports bar that has a driving range and a bunch of other games. You can look at some pictures of this one in NJ

Gallery | Topgolf

Check out photos and virtual tours of your favorite Topgolf venues.

topgolf.com

 

[KellySyracuse]

I've been to this one in Alpharetta, GA when I was there for my nephew's wedding a few years ago. We watched an SU basketball game

Golf, Party Venue, Sports Bar & Restaurant | Topgolf Atlanta - Alpharetta

Make socializing a sport at one of our premier entertainment venues featuring fun golf games for all skill levels, full-service bar and restaurant, all-weather hitting bays and private event spaces.

topgolf.com

 

[Fly Rodder]

A sports bar that has a driving range and a bunch of other games. You can look at some pictures of this one in NJ

Gallery | Topgolf

Check out photos and virtual tours of your favorite Topgolf venues.

topgolf.com

Hmmm, I would 100% throw my back out trying to drive a ball 500 yards after a handful of drinks and gentle trash talk.

 

[shandeezy7]

A sports bar that has a driving range and a bunch of other games. You can look at some pictures of this one in NJ

Gallery | Topgolf

Check out photos and virtual tours of your favorite Topgolf venues.

topgolf.com

I went to my first TopGolf in Vegas a year and a half ago. A lot of fun and honestly not super expensive. This was announced last year in Buffalo, although I'm not sure where it stands now. Similar to TopGolf.

OnCore Golf To Open $30 Million Sports Entertainment Complex In Buffalo, With More Planned

Golf ball technology company OnCore revealed plans to build a $30 million sports and entertainment facility along the Buffalo River in its hometown of Buffalo, New York.

www.forbes.com

 

[KellySyracuse]

I went to my first TopGolf in Vegas a year and a half ago. A lot of fun and honestly not super expensive. This was announced last year in Buffalo, although I'm not sure where it stands now. Similar to TopGolf.

OnCore Golf To Open $30 Million Sports Entertainment Complex In Buffalo, With More Planned

Golf ball technology company OnCore revealed plans to build a $30 million sports and entertainment facility along the Buffalo River in its hometown of Buffalo, New York.

www.forbes.com

That place looks really nice, wow!

 

[FloridaFan]

We have a top golf here in Jax. Really fun time

 

[shandeezy7]

That place looks really nice, wow!

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It looks really incredible. We'll see if it actually comes to fruition. I think we all remember the Destiny USA renderings...

 

[EnviroSciGuy]

That place looks really nice, wow!

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Isn't this what Destiny USA was supposed to look like? Still bitter about losing Borders. Loved that view from the coffee shop.

 

[KellySyracuse]

Isn't this what Destiny USA was supposed to look like? Still bitter about losing Borders. Loved that view from the coffee shop.

here you go, you remember this don't you?

 

[Noexcuse]

here you go, you remember this don't you?

Very sad that won’t be built now.

 

[EnviroSciGuy]

Very sad that won’t be built now.

Congel just needs a few more tax breaks. It's the city's fault.

 

[Noexcuse]

here you go, you remember this don't you?

N BBC

If you squint and the angle of the sunlight is just right glinting off the lake it kinda does look like that.

 

[KellySyracuse]

If you squint and the angle of the sunlight is just right glinting off the lake it kinda does look like that.

it's pretty damn close brother

 

[kirbivore]

what is topgolf?

There's a smaller version at the renovated YBR Casino

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[kirbivore]

Congel just needs a few more tax breaks. It's the city's fault.

Who worked over the politicians more, Congel or Amazon?

 

[EnviroSciGuy]

Who worked over the politicians more, Congel or Amazon?

Good question.

 

[shandeezy7]

There's a smaller version at the renovated YBR Casino

Play Indoor Golf in New York | Trackman Golf Simulator in Chittenango

Experience Trackman Golf simulator in New York at YBR Casino and Sports Book! Play year-round with our indoor golf simulator in Chittenango. Perfect for golfers of all levels, our golf simulator provides an authentic, high-tech golf experience indoors. Book now and experience the new way to...

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That's just virtual golf though, right?

 

[Fly Rodder]

Who worked over the politicians more, Congel or Amazon?

Congel. At least an amazon warehouse represents the future, however sad, of retail.

Malls were already on the way out when Congel suckered people into his scheme.

 

[maxxyz]

Who worked over the politicians more, Congel or Amazon?

Congel. He sold an impossible plan to get funding and tax breaks, did as little as he could and still keep the benefits, then stalled any further expansion that would cost him money. CNY Carpet Bagger.

 

[Ghost]

here you go, you remember this don't you?

This is the most beautiful thing I've ever seen.