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oldpinepoint said:
Problem is the person behind great northern doesn’t have the resources that the people behind shopping town do
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This is true... One thing about the Dewitt area is the planning board and individuals there do not do anything unless they got a plan, and the usually do it with $$$ behind them. Clay on the other hand is a misnomer considering it is on the outskirts but Micron may change that especially with the mall. I can see Great Northern becoming similar to a Township5, but bigger and a better residential area too, apartments etc. Since it is already commercial/developed it would be easier for permissions and permits as well.
 
IthacaMatt said:
I think there's more to the story. I'm betting they had trouble behind the scenes. I took my wife and daughter there a couple weeks ago for a burger and it was bloody awful. I mean, how badly can you mess up a burger, or french onion soup?
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This was one of my favorite places to eat when in the area for work years ago :(
 
0.2 YNdeeR said:
Stunning restoration (also love the work at Hotel Syracuse). Brings back good memories (graduation)!
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Pretty sure that is where I saw the black and white, silent film, 'Napoleon' back in the late 70s, with the Syracuse symphony orchestra playing the entire 3.5 hours. One of the best cultural events I ever attended.
 
VTAaron said:
This is true... One thing about the Dewitt area is the planning board and individuals there do not do anything unless they got a plan, and the usually do it with $$$ behind them. AND THE $$$ UP FRONT.
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You know that Chick-fil-A that just opened...

The Town of Dewitt wouldn't approve the plans unless the developer paid to widen Bridge St and install the new traffic light upfront.
 
OrangeXtreme said:
You know that Chick-fil-A that just opened...

The Town of Dewitt wouldn't approve the plans unless the developer paid to widen Bridge St and install the new traffic light upfront.
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Yup, I use to do computer work in the area back in the early 2000's and knew alot of the players then... It is still true to this day. Thanks for correcting my post not the $$ behind but the $$$ upfront HA!
 
Dmcnabbrules said:
Yeah I don’t know when people will start believing. Micron presented plans for on site rail yard last week. That approval will be a huge step, will allow trains to bring in the insane amount of commercial grade fill needed for the site.
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It’s not necessarily believing. It’s people on both ends of the horseshoe rooting for it to fail.
 
TexanMark said:
The 315 mindset...hopefully it'll change
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I agree there is always lingering skepticism locally but can you really blame them? NYS doesn't have the best track record of government aided economic development. Tesla in Buffalo, Plug Power in Rochester, Soraa / NexGen /On-semi, the movie hub have all underperformed while being funded by the taxpayers. Then add the list of companies that left due to overtaxing /regulation/globalization over the decades and you can see why many view potential projects with a grain of salt. I'm hopefull on the Micron project as this wasn't a build it and they will come concept like some of the others but the continuing delays aren't winning the public's trust.
 
letsgorange said:
I agree there is always lingering skepticism locally but can you really blame them? NYS doesn't have the best track record of government aided economic development. Tesla in Buffalo, Plug Power in Rochester, Soraa / NexGen /On-semi, the movie hub have all underperformed while being funded by the taxpayers. Then add the list of companies that left due to overtaxing /regulation/globalization over the decades and you can see why many view potential projects with a grain of salt. I'm hopefull on the Micron project as this wasn't a build it and they will come concept like some of the others but the continuing delays aren't winning the public's trust.
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Weren't all of the projects that you listed funded by New York State money? The Micron project is a totally different beast with very little comparison to those projects.
 
Can someone explain to me the value of these cities (Columbus OH for example) that are building all these data warehouses? Few jobs after construction with tons of water and power use. I'm not smart enough to understand the long term play.
 
letsgorange said:
I agree there is always lingering skepticism locally but can you really blame them? NYS doesn't have the best track record of government aided economic development. Tesla in Buffalo, Plug Power in Rochester, Soraa / NexGen /On-semi, the movie hub have all underperformed while being funded by the taxpayers. Then add the list of companies that left due to overtaxing /regulation/globalization over the decades and you can see why many view potential projects with a grain of salt. I'm hopefull on the Micron project as this wasn't a build it and they will come concept like some of the others but the continuing delays aren't winning the public's trust.
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Micron is far from the only chips act project that has had delays. I’ve worked long enough in corporate America to know that a project this large rarely starts or ends on time. This isn’t building a bridge. I don’t think the general public understands what goes into building something like this. Shovels don’t go in the ground immediately. With that being said there’s already been a ton of progress getting this off the ground without a shovel going into the ground which will happen likely in December.

With that said there’s already been a lot of tech companies that have either moved here or expanded in the past few years without the same coverage Micron has received. Onsemi, TTM, and Bluefors are 3 specific companies that come to mind.
 
Cusefan0307 said:
Micron is far from the only chips act project that has had delays. I’ve worked long enough in corporate America to know that a project this large rarely starts or ends on time. This isn’t building a bridge. I don’t think the general public understands what goes into building something like this. Shovels don’t go in the ground immediately. With that being said there’s already been a ton of progress getting this off the ground without a shovel going into the ground which will happen likely in December.

With that said there’s already been a lot of tech companies that have either moved here or expanded in the past few years without the same coverage Micron has received. Onsemi, TTM, and Bluefors are 3 specific companies that come to mind.
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Yup, TTM is putting the finishing touches on their new facility in Dewitt right now. $140M facility that is projected to add 400 jobs. Short drive down 481 (soon to be 81) from the Micron facility site.

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