Oh, and just so you know, you haven't used one fact. Not one. Get a Websters and look up the word fact.There is no agenda just facts .There is no upside to this situation. I know you could not possibly believe that people are not watching
Oh, and just so you know, you haven't used one fact. Not one. Get a Websters and look up the word fact.There is no agenda just facts .There is no upside to this situation. I know you could not possibly believe that people are not watching
You mean like Jason Cipolla? Or Marius? Or Devo? What exactly did they bring to the table that Buddy doesn't. Oh, and we are looking at their careers after they are done. Buddy has played one game as a Jr.He can shoot and all he brings to the team. Now go back a look at players who played the same position
Just stop.It’s all about recruiting
I will let’s hope that this season is better than last year.Just stop.
Goodine isnt getting many minutes at Providence. He still hasn't made a jump shot this year after abysmal shooting here. Tonight was 1/5 fga and 0/3 on three point shots. His only made shot was a layup again. Trust me I watched and waited all last year. It's hard to believe actually.Neither got close to 40 mins so...
Yes? I’m looking.He can shoot and all he brings to the team. Now go back a look at players who played the same position
Got it BB is best we could do at the 2 spot. There is no competitionYes? I’m looking.
BB is an A shooter, B ball handler and passer and c for everything else.
the guys he replaced were c’s pretty much across
The board
drinkI do understand. It's a lot of work. That's why you need a great staff to recruit and develop coach players once they arrive. JB also needs to burn the midnight oil on certain 5 star generational program recruits.
You mean like Jason Cipolla? Or Marius? Or Devo? What exactly did they bring to the table that Buddy doesn't. Oh, and we are looking at their careers after they are done. Buddy has played one game as a Jr.
How I feel as well.Buddy Boeheim + Jason Hart, MCW, and any number of point guards = great success.
Joe Girard + Kueth Duany, Brandon Triche, and any number of shooting guards = great success.
The two of them together is a recipe for disaster defensively. And it won't get much better. That is the bottom line.
Goodine had 16 minutes a few steals and rebounds. He will get his confidence remember he was a top shooter coming out of HS. Not saying he was a good fit for us but think he will be a late bloomer like BJ and decent player.Goodine isnt getting many minutes at Providence. He still hasn't made a jump shot this year after abysmal shooting here. Tonight was 1/5 fga and 0/3 on three point shots. His only made shot was a layup again. Trust me I watched and waited all last year. It's hard to believe actually.
Agree with you on most of this, Dasher. But Devo is a bad comparison. Sure he wasn’t a great defender. But he was one of the best guards we’ve ever had attacking off the bounce in addition to being a good shooter. JB himself has said that he was the best player we’ve ever had who was able to finish with both his left and right hand when attacking the basket. He may have been better going left than right. I’ve been impressed with Buddy’s development, but he doesn’t have Devo’s ability yet.You mean like Jason Cipolla? Or Marius? Or Devo? What exactly did they bring to the table that Buddy doesn't. Oh, and we are looking at their careers after they are done. Buddy has played one game as a Jr.
Devo also didn't care one bit about defense. Buddy at least tries. Think back, Devo is ruled out of the Memphis game down there. Our defense wins the game. Devo doesn't come back for his sr year. We have one of the best teams we have ever had. His defense had a lot to do with that. Devo was a terrific offensive player. Right now, we are comparing Devo after his playing 3 years, with a red shirt. Buddy has played two years and one game. It isn't apples to apples yet.Agree with you on most of this, Dasher. But Devo is a bad comparison. Sure he wasn’t a great defender. But he was one of the best guards we’ve ever had attacking off the bounce in addition to being a good shooter. JB himself has said that he was the best player we’ve ever had who was able to finish with both his left and right hand when attacking the basket. He may have been better going left than right. I’ve been impressed with Buddy’s development, but he doesn’t have Devo’s ability yet.
True. But Buddy at least tried on defense. As I just pointed out in another thread, 2009, we travel to Memphis and we have to play without Devo because he was once again in trouble. We win down there with our defense. The following year, Devo does not come back for his sr year. We have one of the best teams we have ever had. Those are facts. And I like Devo. But we saw Devo over 4 years. We have seen Buddy after two years and 1 game. Let's see how this all shakes out.Devendorf could put the ball on the floor extremely well. Buddy cannot
True. But Buddy at least tried on defense. As I just pointed out in another thread, 2009, we travel to Memphis and we have to play without Devo because he was once again in trouble. We win down there with our defense. The following year, Devo does not come back for his sr year. We have one of the best teams we have ever had. Those are facts. And I like Devo. But we saw Devo over 4 years. We have seen Buddy after two years and 1 game. Let's see how this all shakes out.
Nothing is 100% but Devo not being there left the position open for Andy to play full time. Big upgrade. Andy was in another league on defense. He did actually make a NBA team. And the same goes for the Memphis game. The verdict is still out on Devo vs Buddy. We can talk after Buddy has had the same 4 years that Devo did. Devo had the 3 he played and the one he red shirted. I don't mind the discussion or the disagreement Wrinkle.I'm not trying to come at you but I don't think our success in 2010 had anything to do with Devendorf leaving. And I definitely don't think we only beat Memphis because Devendorf didn't play. I would trade Buddy for Devendorf in a heartbeat, 100%.
Yes? I’m looking.
BB is an A shooter, B ball handler and passer and c for everything else.
the guys he replaced were c’s pretty much across
The board
Devo was a maestro at driving to the basket and finishing with either hand. His offensive skills were far superior to Buddy. They play similar defense.You mean like Jason Cipolla? Or Marius? Or Devo? What exactly did they bring to the table that Buddy doesn't. Oh, and we are looking at their careers after they are done. Buddy has played one game as a Jr.
Buddy will never be the threat off the dribble that Devo was. Doesn’t have the foot speed or the cojones quite honestly to attack like Eric. Nor does he have half the necessary handle.True. But Buddy at least tried on defense. As I just pointed out in another thread, 2009, we travel to Memphis and we have to play without Devo because he was once again in trouble. We win down there with our defense. The following year, Devo does not come back for his sr year. We have one of the best teams we have ever had. Those are facts. And I like Devo. But we saw Devo over 4 years. We have seen Buddy after two years and 1 game. Let's see how this all shakes out.
I don't disagree with that.Buddy will never be the threat off the dribble that Devo was. Doesn’t have the foot speed or the cojones quite honestly to attack like Eric. Nor does he have half the necessary handle.
Buddy tries on defense. He can get better. Devo wasn't interested in defense.Devo was a maestro at driving to the basket and finishing with either hand. His offensive skills were far superior to Buddy. They play similar defense.
neither player helps a team anywhere near what Buddy does. Not even in the same league.I personally think he is a D- as a defender, which is half of the game in reality.
If you weight the GPA, and strip it down to offense & defense, he's not getting above a 2.5 from me. Which isn't a great rating.
Goodine you never saw what he was defensively, but he showed aptitude. Carey was in a similar position.
Not saying they're better, but Buddy is really, really bad on defense.